dirtydanglez
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toronto will never win a cup with matthews.
Rumor: Kypreos says Matthews will be 13.5M (Haggling over term)
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hamzarocks
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He was a top 10 player in 2021 and 2022, looks like he peaked at being in contention for 2nd best behind Mcdavid and is now a top 10-20 player who wants to be the highest paid player
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Following millionaires haggle with billionaires is just exhausting.
I used to care about contracts and salary cap implications but with the way hockey is heading to be less accessible every day from grassroots to international tournaments (specifically the lack thereof) it's harder to care every year.
Keep dreaming, McDavid will be the highest paid player in the league when he signs his extension.
Nobody cared what players were making until the cap came in. I don't think any Avs fans cared when Sakic/Forsberg/Roy were making like 10 million each.
Not commenting on worth overall and I get that people fixate on AAV in comparisons but Matthews at 13.5 would still be lower cap percentage than McDavid. McDavid’s current deal adjusted for cap growth would be north of 13.9 right now (of 83,500,000)
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Every team in the league would offer Matthews 13.5M if they could. Some even more.
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What is the gap between Matthews and Mcdavid?
Its more than the 3% difference in McDavid's adjusted cap hit(which would have been at 8 years) if 13.9M vs Matthews 13.5M at 3-5 years
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IBH - it seems to be all about maximizing total earnings.
3 Year Deal (26-28): 3x13.5
7/8 Year Deal (29-36): 8x16 (total guess, so use your judgement)
8 Year Deal (26-33): 8x13.5
? Year Deal (34+): TBD
If you look at that, by signing a 3 year deal he'll be at an age that he'll still be able to sign a 7/8 year deal at the end for essentially "max value", even if the team likely isn't getting their money's worth the last 2-3 years of that deal.
If he signs a 8 year deal now, the Leaf's get him for what's essentially the rest of his prime. At 34 he's likely still a very productive player, but unlikely one that a team would commit multiple years at max value.
You need to find another level in the playoffs the great ones do .
I guess he isn't but wants hike cake.
Who cares about winning right? Just keep signing the highest paid deals every couple of years for max earnings.
It’s pretty clear by their play when it matters and their actions in the off-season that the core 4 doesn’t care about winning near enough to earn those paycheques.
It’s painful to be a leafs fan. What a group of unlikable losers.
It’s pretty clear by their play when it matters and their actions in the off-season that the core 4 doesn’t care about winning near enough to earn those paycheques.
It’s painful to be a leafs fan. What a group of unlikable losers.
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100% agree. You might as well compare him to what the Rock makes for a movie to baseline his salary.
So true. They really are unlikable. I miss the gilmour and sundin era’s. They weren’t the most talented leaf teams, but they always gave it their all on the ice, blood sweat and tears. Today, we just get the tears part….
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Pro rate Sundins earnings to todays dollars. He makes way more than Matthews.
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i understand players going for max cash. it's their career and they have a family. it's their right. it just sucks for the leafs that they ended up with their top 4 players all built this way. a team can get by with a superstar like that but not an entire line. leafs need to make some changes.
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That's also fair.
I just dislike seeing these negotiations while fans get a worse product or no product at all moreso every year, and I get entertainment is a business. I'm not even saying x shouldn't be paid or whatever. I just want the product on the ice to match the player salary.
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That will never happen. Teams will always overpay. Look at the Celtics giving Jalen Brown the richest deal in NBA history. I'm not sure hes even the best player on that team let alone deserving of the biggest deal in history.
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I don't see how you can be "haggling over term" and yet have the AAV fixed. Because if you are getting more term out of Matthews, you have to be paying him more than $13.5M, buying some of those juicy years when the Cap is over $100M and McDavid is getting $20M a year and teams would otherwise have been falling all over themselves to pay Matthews more than a mere $13.5M. Term and AAV go hand in hand, you can't settle on one without factoring in the other.
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Very difficult comparing sports to regular business. If my boss has a hard budget for salary, that means if my salary doubles I have to do 2 FTE's equivalent. If AM wants to milk the Leafs for all he can, that means he's OK with having a bunch of roster filler making league minimum getting signficant minutes. Experience shows that come play-off time depth is really damn important in successful teams.
Patrice Bergeron.
Wasn’t in a cap era…..hence it didn’t hinder the team….
fans didn’t care what players were paid pre cap. We care now because taking too much of the cap hinders team performance.
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A team with significant cap space might be willing to sign him to that contract when he's a UFA and they don't have to give up anything for him. Stranger things have happened.
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