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LMAO
Yeah Dubas and the team sure scream "ultra competitive" when you watch them
Name one other team that has ever handed out co tracts like Dubas' did to multiple RFA players.Regarding the contracts thing: I think we're reaching a point in the current NHL---wherein some clubs' strategy with young stars is to lock them down for 6-8 years with big contracts while they're young---where "negotiation" is longer going to be a thing.
In other words, clubs have only so much money they can invest in a high-priced core. Beyond that, there's no room for negotiation. Also, GMs (like Dubas, with Tavares and Marner) have been burned a lot recently with some of these big contracts.
So, I think what the Leafs and several other clubs are going to do in the near future (if not already) is simply say to the player and agent: We have X-dollars to give you for the next one-or-two years, or X-dollars for the next five years. Take it or leave it. And the deadline to decide is July 1st (or whatever). And players and agents are going to have to decide quickly.
It might be.I thought good news was delivered after the weekend?
Brad Treliving? The guy who just traded Tkachuk for Huberdeau and signed Nazem Kadri to $7x7?
Boy.
Brad Treliving? The guy who just traded Tkachuk for Huberdeau and signed Nazem Kadri to $7x7?
Boy.
McDavid at 50 will be a better skater than Tavares was at 25.McDavid will sign here eventually.
The only question is if it'll be when he's well past his prime like Lindros and Spezza, or when he's just on the back 9 like JT was.
His hands were tied with Tkachuk. Got a good haul for him though.Brad Treliving? The guy who just traded Tkachuk for Huberdeau and signed Nazem Kadri to $7x7?
Boy.
Losing Spezza hurts how??? WHAT DID HE ACTUALLY DO?Regardless of what you think of how Dubas or Shanny handled this, this is not a good day for us. If we hire a competent GM, then it's fine. Losing Spezza hurts too.
I'm honestly concerned where we are going with this team.
Does this mean Denis Malgin gets one more chance?
My bet is two years or he is traded to us a yr before that and we sign Drai, unless they are in the Cup Finals then they will stick and play it out.McDavid will sign here eventually.
The only question is if it'll be when he's well past his prime like Lindros and Spezza, or when he's just on the back 9 like JT was.
After all these failure do you really want a GM who hesitated on running it back? I would question any president if they choose a GM who has hesitation committing to this job especially where things are at, I would want my GM to be fully committed, hungry, angry, and WANTING to be the GM of the best hockey franchise in the world.Inside the chaos and uncertainty Brendan Shanahan has brought upon the Maple Leafs
The decision to not bring Kyle Dubas back as general manager should cast an even brighter spotlight on Brendan Shanahan.theathletic.com
Shanahan said he heard from Dubas’ agent on Thursday and was presented with what he said was a new “financial package.”
More money in other words.
It was just before dinner, Shanahan said, that Dubas emailed to say he would like to return. After some soul searching, on the heels of a disappointing season, he was committed to being the GM again.
“At that point, if I’m being honest, I had gotten to a different place about how I felt about the future of the Toronto Maple Leafs and what was best,” Shanahan said. “The email that I received from Kyle, I just felt differently. And I felt that the long-term future of the Maple Leafs might have to change.”
This means it wasn’t Dubas’ job performance that concerned him and ultimately cost him his job. Quite the opposite. Shanahan stressed repeatedly how pleased he was with the job Dubas had done. It’s why the Leafs were ready to commit to him before the playoffs.
No, what apparently swayed them was Dubas’ brief, days-long reluctance to coming back. Even though the Leafs had left him dangling without a contract all season, a moment of hesitation on his part led them to dramatically change course and dive deep into the unknown.
Which frankly seems like an unusual way of doing business, especially with all that pressing work ahead.
Door 1 was Dubas. The known commodity. Someone who had established relationships with the players and especially the stars, but also someone who appeared willing, finally, to change course and perhaps move on from one of those stars. Someone who had built the Leafs up into a high-functioning operation.
Door 2 was a giant question mark.
The Leafs chose Door 2 and the giant question mark, all because, it seems, Dubas hesitated.
That giant question mark will now be entrusted with convincing Matthews to stay by July 1, trading one of those stars, and presumably finding a new coach to replace Dubas’ guy, Sheldon Keefe. All in a matter of weeks. And because those decisions are so massive, so franchise-changing, the Leafs will evidently seek out someone with experience – which narrows the pool of candidates considerably to those who’ve been GMs before.
It might not be the best person for the job necessarily then.
Does that mean that said person will do a better job than Dubas would have? Maybe. Maybe not. That person will be walking into an organization they’re completely unfamiliar with and will nonetheless have to execute a series of whoppers in a matter of weeks.
Not great!
The Leafs could have simply brought Dubas back to do the work he started.
He brought Dubas a helluva cup of joeLosing Spezza hurts how??? WHAT DID HE ACTUALLY DO?
Are you able to qualify the spezza comment?Regardless of what you think of how Dubas or Shanny handled this, this is not a good day for us. If we hire a competent GM, then it's fine. Losing Spezza hurts too.
I'm honestly concerned where we are going with this team.
But the Sens play outside of Ottawa, lol.Ottawa is a literal shit hole Ala San Fran for transients. The amount of turds in the alleys of the byward market is disgusting. There is a lot more to be upset about than that.
Some of us back in the day on this board used to call Wellwood "Baconator" lolHaven’t heard Well Fed for a long time. Amazing
Regardless of what you think of how Dubas or Shanny handled this, this is not a good day for us. If we hire a competent GM, then it's fine. Losing Spezza hurts too.
I'm honestly concerned where we are going with this team.
"I'd like Connor Bedard's liver with some Fava beans and a nice chianti"Shanny is going to wheel Fletcher out like Hannibal Lecter at the draft
It concerns me abit when people here are so pessimistic with this after we let go a gm that bet hard on this roster, this is his image of what a hockey team should beRegardless of what you think of how Dubas or Shanny handled this, this is not a good day for us. If we hire a competent GM, then it's fine. Losing Spezza hurts too.
I'm honestly concerned where we are going with this team.
You are way too happy.
Of course he was puzzled. He and Mirtle I'm sure don't understand it.Listening to the Leafs Report podcast and Siegel was pretty puzzled. He did not seem to understand at all why they would remove Dubas. He seemed almost upset by it.
@egd27 lol whats so funnyAre you able to qualify the spezza comment?