He had no obligation to say nice things about Toronto, and neither did Treliving re. Calgary. The point I was making is that it showcases a difference in class and respect for those whom you built with relationships with and gave you an opportunity in the first place.
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He had no obligation to say nice things about Toronto, and neither did Treliving re. Calgary. The point I was making is that it showcases a difference in class and respect for those whom you built with relationships with and gave you an opportunity in the first place.
How is that Dubas is allowed to run the Draft for Pittsburgh but Treliving is not?
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Who wants the players Dubas is gonna draft?
GrizzGreen
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100%, good on him for laddering up on hype. I don't think he does well in that role but we will see
Leafs will be fine
Menzinger
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Teams are free to set conditions on guys who are still technically under contract. Some choose to do so, some don't.
I don't believe MLSE has a habit of setting conditions on their former guys - though they have outright refused on occasion another teams request to interview am MLSE employee
Woodman19
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We have no picks so Dubas didnt bother taking notes for the 2023 draft anyway
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I don't for sure but didn't Dubas' contract expire (or is going to expire very soon)?
Which unfortunately led to the last 5 years under the former GM
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I'm sure he knows who he wants to hire ... probably talked to him all the time.
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So glad we could sacrifice the best opportunity this franchise had seen in decades so he could play Wall Street.
More like he’s privy to who the Leafs are thinking about.Who wants the players Dubas is gonna draft?
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Thats exactly my feelings too, this team was loaded with rookie deal stars and a ton of talent ready to go for multiple years and we punted away a lot of that depth for on the job training for someone looking to climb the corporate ladder.
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We'd prefer that Dubas grabs whatever 5'9 165lbs Finnish dman he's got his eye on so he's gone by the time we pick.
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Who they WERE thinking about when he was in charge but will likely be totally different with Tree.
Penguins hire Kyle Dubas as president of hockey ops
Dubas spent the past five seasons as the Toronto Maple Leafs' general manager but parted ways with the team on May 19.
How Pittsburgh, Dubas got here
Dave Beeston, co-head of Fenway Sports Management and the Penguins’ alternate governor, oversaw a seven-week search that included at least 10 candidates for the GM position and multiple rounds of interviews. After the Maple Leafs’ second-round playoffs loss to the Florida Panthers, Dubas said, “You won’t see me popping up elsewhere” on May 15. Four days later, Maple Leafs president Brendan Shanahan parted with Dubas, citing Dubas’ public remarks as a reason to doubt Dubas wanted to continue as GM in Toronto.
The Penguins were deep into their search when Dubas was fired, but quickly sought permission to speak with him, which the Maple Leafs granted. They ended up hiring him as president, a role that will oversee all of hockey operations — and he’ll presumably bring in his own GM at a later date. — Rossi
What this means for the Penguins
Dubas will inherit a powerful coach in Mike Sullivan, who has four years remaining on a contract that was extended last August. Sullivan, a two-time Stanley Cup winner with the Penguins, is a Massachusetts native and has considerable clout with Fenway Sports Group, which is Boston-based.
Sullivan and Hextall did not click as a GM-coach partnership, but Sullivan did work well with Jim Rutherford when he was GM in Pittsburgh (2014-2021). Sullivan’s preferred style of play — an attacking, speed-skill approach — would appear to be a fit with the teams Dubas built in Toronto. Again, Dubas’ title will give him full oversight of hockey decisions.
Beeston said on April 14 that FSG’s expectation is for the Penguins to compete for the Stanley Cup with a core that consists of Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin and Kris Letang — all of whom are contractually tied to Pittsburgh for at least the next two seasons. Malkin and Letang signed extensions last summer, and Crosby can negotiate an extension after the 2023-24 season. Dubas will have to quickly decide if Tristan Jarry is his goalie of the future, as Jarry is set to become an unrestricted free agent.
Another big decision for Dubas will be whether to keep, trade or extend Jake Guentzel, Crosby’s longtime winger, who is set to enter the last season of his contract. — Rossi
This is a huge win for FSG. Dubas was clearly the guy for the Penguins, who went through weeks of GM interviews before hiring Dubas as president of hockey operations. They still need a GM, but in Dubas, FSG gets an executive whose traits remind the ownership group of Theo Epstein.
The Penguins now boast a power combo with Dubas and Mike Sullivan running the show. — Yohe
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Yes, they totally pivoted and offered this much control to their organization in 4 daysPenguins hire Kyle Dubas as president of hockey ops
Dubas spent the past five seasons as the Toronto Maple Leafs' general manager but parted ways with the team on May 19.theathletic.com
How Pittsburgh, Dubas got here
Dave Beeston, co-head of Fenway Sports Management and the Penguins’ alternate governor, oversaw a seven-week search that included at least 10 candidates for the GM position and multiple rounds of interviews. After the Maple Leafs’ second-round playoffs loss to the Florida Panthers, Dubas said, “You won’t see me popping up elsewhere” on May 15. Four days later, Maple Leafs president Brendan Shanahan parted with Dubas, citing Dubas’ public remarks as a reason to doubt Dubas wanted to continue as GM in Toronto.
The Penguins were deep into their search when Dubas was fired, but quickly sought permission to speak with him, which the Maple Leafs granted. They ended up hiring him as president, a role that will oversee all of hockey operations — and he’ll presumably bring in his own GM at a later date. — Rossi
What this means for the Penguins
Dubas will inherit a powerful coach in Mike Sullivan, who has four years remaining on a contract that was extended last August. Sullivan, a two-time Stanley Cup winner with the Penguins, is a Massachusetts native and has considerable clout with Fenway Sports Group, which is Boston-based.
Sullivan and Hextall did not click as a GM-coach partnership, but Sullivan did work well with Jim Rutherford when he was GM in Pittsburgh (2014-2021). Sullivan’s preferred style of play — an attacking, speed-skill approach — would appear to be a fit with the teams Dubas built in Toronto. Again, Dubas’ title will give him full oversight of hockey decisions.
Beeston said on April 14 that FSG’s expectation is for the Penguins to compete for the Stanley Cup with a core that consists of Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin and Kris Letang — all of whom are contractually tied to Pittsburgh for at least the next two seasons. Malkin and Letang signed extensions last summer, and Crosby can negotiate an extension after the 2023-24 season. Dubas will have to quickly decide if Tristan Jarry is his goalie of the future, as Jarry is set to become an unrestricted free agent.
Another big decision for Dubas will be whether to keep, trade or extend Jake Guentzel, Crosby’s longtime winger, who is set to enter the last season of his contract. — Rossi
This is a huge win for FSG. Dubas was clearly the guy for the Penguins, who went through weeks of GM interviews before hiring Dubas as president of hockey operations. They still need a GM, but in Dubas, FSG gets an executive whose traits remind the ownership group of Theo Epstein.
The Penguins now boast a power combo with Dubas and Mike Sullivan running the show. — Yohe
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I’m surprised Dubas took the Penguins job. In a year’s time they could look like a lottery team like Washington and St. Louis this year.
TheDoldrums
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I don't think its a good reflection of MLSEs asset management and judgement that they fired someone who immediately recieved a promotion from a competitor
ULF_55
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He won't be there forever, but he'll probably be in NHL management for years somewhere in the NHL. Eventually, Shanahan will be replaced.
My sneaky guess is that he hires Spezza as GM and that's why he resigned so quickly.
GoonieFace
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Or it’s a bad look for Pittsburgh for hiring an incompetent clown
Larcos_Unal
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what depth did we punt away? exactly? it also got replaced.
and again - i'm not defending Dubas here, but it is always so frustrating that people tend to always lay the blame at his feet - but not lay some at the players. a lot of people here love babying them and not give them any kind of ownership. they didn't really set the world on fire during the playoffs either. they don't seem to really want to do what it takes either. starting with Matthews. for the record. and working all the way down.
not to mention had Dubas [OR ANYONE] here put their foot down (as they should have) and not given those guys the moon, then people woulld be whinging that we were wasting their years by having them sit out etc etc etc. but that's mostly because most teams refuse to let their younger players earn anything anymore they just throw them money and terms and NTC/NMCs all the time now.
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Ya, that’s the best case scenario for us.Who wants the players Dubas is gonna draft?
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