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Confirmed with Link: Kreider extended 7 years, AAV approximately $6.5MM

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Are we thinking the Rangers drew the line originally at 6x6.75. Then at the last minute this was the compromise to get a seventh year included?
 
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I wonder if they signed him with trade deals on the table they weren't happy with?
 
ElLeetch said:
I wonder if they signed him with trade deals on the table they weren't happy with?
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they said their first priority was to sign him so if they couldn’t compromise that probably had a deal in place they were at least somewhat happy with. Personally I don’t think anybody was offering what they wanted which was a first and a really good prospect along with another piece
 
jas said:
The fact that the Rangers saw fit to re-sign Kreider, unlike every other player from the prior run that reached this situation should signal what the organization feels about his importance both on and off the ice:
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While I agree the organization feels differently than Kreider than others in years past (and for good reason), I think a lot of it also has to do with timing. For example...if the McD and Kreider's contract situations were switched, I'm not so sure the Rangers would still re-sign Kreider and trade McD.
 
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Do we know details on his contract yet? Is it front loaded? Did he get a NTC in any form? If his contract is front loaded with no NTC, I think the last two years can be traded more easily. Lower AAV also means salary retention in a trade is more managable. Lots of bottom dwelling teams love getting players with low $ owed but high AAV to get themselves to cap floor. All we can do now if cheer and hope that CK ages like Ovechkin instead of Lindross. I think we can all agree that Ovechkin has somehow kept his magic even at his age so there is hope for CK even if he isn't a generational player.

EDIT: hmm... I'm guessing the info graph above has the numbers? Are those confirmed?
7.9, 7.6, 7.3, 8.8, 6.3, 5.6, 4.8?
 
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Makes this contract look wayyyyyy better than half the board wants you to believe.
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I mean the this year and the next few aren't the problem with this deal. Its there being a pretty good chance he will not be nearly as good as he currently is in the backhalf of the deal.
 
n8 said:
Do we know details on his contract yet? Is it front loaded? Did he get a NTC in any form? If his contract is front loaded with no NTC, I think the last two years can be traded more easily. Lower AAV also means salary retention in a trade is more managable. Lots of bottom dwelling teams love getting players with low $ owed but high AAV to get themselves to cap floor. All we can do now if cheer and hope that CK ages like Ovechkin instead of Lindross. I think we can all agree that Ovechkin has somehow kept his magic even at his age so there is hope for CK even if he isn't a generational player.

EDIT: hmm... I'm guessing the info graph above has the numbers? Are those confirmed?
7.9, 7.6, 7.3, 8.8, 6.3, 5.6, 4.8?
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Shane Doan is another good example of a power forward lasting a long time. So did Tkachuk, Claude Lemieux and Brind'Amour.
 
Kakko Schmakko said:
Shane Doan is another good example of a power forward lasting a long time. So did Tkachuk, Claude Lemieux and Brind'Amour.
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Bill Guerin is an interesting one. His numbers actually improved once he got to be Kreider’s age and older. And he’s a classic power forward.

If you compare Guerin from 23-28 to Kreider from 23-28...it looks pretty similar. And what’s really interesting is this stretch of years:

Age 28: 80GP 30-34-64
Age 29: 70GP 24-22-46
Age 30: 85GP 40-45-85

Do I think Kreider is going to magically become a 40 goal guy like Guerin? Probably not. But it’s just one example of a guy in a similar mold who did exceptionally well in that age bracket.

Edit: Imagine though if we had traded Kreider and he became Bill Guerin 2.0? They may as well have just nuked this part of the board if that transpired.
 
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BreadmanGetsPaid said:
Bill Guerin is an interesting one. His numbers actually improved once he got to be Kreider’s age and older. And he’s a classic power forward.

If you compare Guerin from 23-28 to Kreider from 23-28...it looks pretty similar. And what’s really interesting is this stretch of years:

Age 28: 80GP 30-34-64
Age 29: 70GP 24-22-46
Age 30: 85GP 40-45-85

Do I think Kreider is going to magically become a 40 goal guy like Guerin? Probably not. But it’s just one example of a guy in a similar mold who did exceptionally well in that age bracket.

Edit: Imagine though if we had traded Kreider and he became Bill Guerin 2.0? They may as well have just nuked this part of the board if that transpired.
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I think Crosby or Malkin had something to do with it.
 
Not happy with this at all, and I definitely don't see Kreider as captain, I would rather give it to Fox despite him being a rookie.
 
KappoTheGoat said:
This is the biggest yikes i've seen this season, what the hell..
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General Managers buy out bad contracts, so they can hand out new bad contracts :laugh:

To be fair, at 6.5m it's not as bad as I initially thought it would be. With talks about an AAV between 7 and 8m, the 6.5m isn't that bad. I still feel the last 3 years will hurt us unless Kreider keeps up. And I really hope he does. I hope he's the exception to the rule. I really do.
 
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Serious question, there was some kid that was overweight that had a podcast. think his name was mike > is he still around, anyone knows his podcast . blue shirt something
 
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