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Do not trade him. If it’s his fault, do not trade him. Pray for the best and for his situation to get resolved like Puljujarvi.

If it’s not his fault, I don’t even know what to say other than get rid of Drury.
 
that's crazy logic. It's about getting the best value for the player. If they are getting lowball offers, serves them no good to trade him. If Kravtsov doesn't care about playing good for him, he can go into business now.
How does it help the Rangers to have him sit forever?
 
Do not trade him. If it’s his fault, do not trade him. Pray for the best and for his situation to get resolved like Puljujarvi.

If it’s not his fault, I don’t even know what to say other than get rid of Drury.
The only way this is resolved is if a trade is made or Kravtsov returns to Hartford. Until then, he's not playing another game until next season.
 
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that we kept Hajek over Kravtsov
This is what hurts. I’ve disliked Hajek from day 1. He sucks, but that’s fine. I got over that.

I thought he would flame out in the AHL or something and that would be the end of that. But to think that this petty organization STILL doesn’t want to admit fault that the main piece of that trade is a 7th defenseman at best, and is willing to play around with Kravtsov to save face is just embarrassing. I know it’s a new FO but this really does seems like Sather is behind all this. This is the trade that keeps on giving. And Nils is good, but won’t be great. Disaster.
 
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Certainly worth wondering.

But Kravtsov should get all the chances first to rehabilitate himself, even if it means preferential treatment over - gasp - Dryden Hunt’s roster spot or the irreplaceable Sammy Blais’s third line minutes.

He was given a chance. Nobody told him to go away for good. He was sent down to the AHL and refused. Dryden Hunt is not a guy I'm high on but he plays a different role so its apples and oranges. Actually Hunts AHl numbers are better than Kravtsovs. Blais NHL numbers are better than Kravtsovs. Why should Kravtsov just be given top 6 or top 9 minutes? I 100% want this kid to be great but I'm asking what has he done to earn them? Last season he played over 12 minutes a game. 20 games-4 points-minus 6
 
The only way this is resolved is if a trade is made or Kravtsov returns to Hartford. Until then, he's not playing another game until next season.
Correct. He's only hurting his trade value by doing this, because it's not as if he's got a track record of success to point to.
 
I agree, if the organization did not see Kravtsov as part of the future - TRADE HIM. What was the expectation? He is a top-6 player, not a grinder. There is no room for him on the roster. The kid is not going to be on standby in Hartford to be your utility player. Would it be a better option for him to do it and get traded? Yes. But that was simply not happening. The Rangers need to understand one thing - don't expect the players to think about the organizations best interest first. It's a business. Be smarter.
They could have. And I’m sure there would have been Interest in the summer. More then now anyway.
But I think Drury/Gallant were hedging their bets. I don’t think they were 100% willing to trade him. They would have for the right deal, but they would have rather kept him and had him round out his game more in Hartford similar to what Barron was doing.
I don’t think either of they figured he would be there all year. Maybe a half year at the most and also have in a pinch in case of injury/trade.
It’s kind of a perfect storm type deal. I’m sure Once Kravy saw Buch traded, he thought he was a lock for a top 9 RW position. When Gallant/Drury told him they wanted their bottom 6 configured a certain way, and wanted him to go to Hartford without any assurances on when he’d be back, he flipped out.
This is a kid who didn’t really want to go to Hartford in the first place. He’s thought he’s too good for the A for a while now.
Whether he’s right or wrong has nothing to do with it. That’s the way his bosses wanted it.
Kravy and his agent probably also saw the path for a steady NHL job would be easier elsewhere. Hence the trade request.
I called this coming a mile away. But I was even shocked he wouldn’t report for at least a month.
I figured he’d go down, bust his butt for a little, play well, and if things were still very crowded up here, or NYR was playing better with Gallants structured line up with a more heavy 3rd/4th line, he would then request a trade.
The kid wants a steady nhl job with playing time. For all of those who are speculating that if they kept him instead of Gauthier/Hunt on the roster, riddle me this.
Do you think if Krav was the guy up on the big club, and NYR had no injuries and he was the one being constantly scratched, do you really think that would be ok with him?? Do you think he wouldn’t get pissed and request a trade???
For all those who think he’d be ok with that, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
They obviously wanted him playing top minutes in Hartford because they viewed him as a long term part of the solution. The didn’t want to have him maybe playing 2 games here and there like Gauthier will in the extra Fwd slot.
Kravtsov only has himself to blame for overreacting and wanting to take the path of least resistance to a permanent NHL job. He’s more interested in that, then being a ranger.
I don’t feel bad for him at all at this point. Don’t let the door hit ya in the ass on the way out. I just hope whatever pick/player/prospect we get back works hard, what’s to be here, and adds value to the rangers going fwd.
I’m not really as heart broken as many here. He has a nice size/skill package, but even if he hits his ceiling I see maybe a 60-70 pt wing. Not exactly the hardest piece to find/trade for. Some on here talk about him like he has Bure/Ovechkin/kovalev talent, and that’s just not the case. Not even close.
And to say losing him and say getting back a 2nd Rounder wrecks the farm system/rebuild is pretty hilarious.
 
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The only way this is resolved is if a trade is made or Kravtsov returns to Hartford. Until then, he's not playing another game until next season.
Yea I get that. I don’t care how long it takes.

For me, plan A is to get Kravtsov to man up and apologize, even if it wasn’t his fault. It is what it is. I’ve had to take the high road many times when I was right. Happens. Plan B is to get a player back for him who is in a similar situation and has similar upside. Plan C is to just wait it out and make him pay, however long it takes.
 
Screw Kravstov.

This was his decision, just like it was ADA's continuing being a moron.

Im not trying to rectify anything with this kid. He can either rot in Russia or we trade him if we are lucky enough to get fair value for him. I don't want him anywhere near the team with that piss poor attitude.

He didnt earn shit.
 
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I just gotta say, with Sather being back out of nowhere, everything is starting to make sense. And you can justify it all with mental gymnastics, but the fact is that this team is going nowhere with Sather and Dolan. Hope I’m wrong, but I’m remembering now how sad it is to be a Rangers fan.
 
Rangers backed themselves into a corner. Kravtsov isn't going to Hartford, big brain Sather likely wont let him come back to NY, so the only option is to trade him and every team knows that. So this will be the 2nd first round pick we parlayed into a 2nd rounder or questionable prospect.
More like Kravtsov dragged them into that corner. And now they are both there. Even a public trade request would've been better than failing to report and flying to Russia.
 
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Screw Kravstov. This was his decision, just like it was ADA's to continuing being a moron.

Im not trying to rectify anything with this kid. He can either rot in Russia or we trade him if we are lucky enough to get fair value for him. I don't want him anywhere near the team with that piss poor attitude. He didnt earn shit
Idk about all that. Guys like Kakko, Laf, and even Howden were allowed to work through their struggles. Hajek, Hunt, and Gauthier made the team, but Kravtsov couldn’t? Unfortunately, I’m also starting to realize that you can’t treat this generation (aka my generation) like you did the older generation. You see it in the NBA too. You have to walk a fine line with a lot of these kids. Is it entitlement? Maybe. Maybe not. But it’s also the organization.

Lost in all this is how amazing Chytil’s response was to being sent down. You gotta respect it. Hope he succeeds. I’m a huge fan.
 
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There is zero chance Kravtsov comes back if Dreger's reporting that he is willing to go to the AHL affiliate of a different team. Kravtsov already figures he is public enemy #1 in NY and in Hartford. The team posted that it was not willing to be done with Kravtsov. But it takes two to tango.
 
Idk about all that. Guys like Kakko, Laf, and even Howden were allowed to work through their struggles. Hajek, Hunt, and Gauthier made the team, but Kravtsov couldn’t? Unfortunately, I’m also starting to realize that you can’t treat this generation (aka my generation) like you did the older generation. You see it in the NBA too. You have to walk a fine line with a lot of these kids. Is it entitlement? Maybe. Maybe not. But it’s also the organization.

Lost in all this is how amazing Chytil’s response was to being sent down. You gotta respect it. Hope he succeeds. I’m a huge fan.

Struggles?

He was assigned for a conditioning stint because of his injury. It obviously was something serious enough to keep him home from the bonding trip for treatment (unless it was his decision to not go up, will never really know). I think thats whats being lost in comparing who was kept up with the big club instead of him.

It is a pattern of behavior. You wanna call it a generational thing then the NHL is going to have a shortage of players and the product on the ice is gonna go south. Agree on Chytil - he and hundreds of others are from that generation and did what they had to do to make it back up. Jones played well enough to earn his spot on this team too, not a peep from him. This is all on Kravstov imo.
 
Sometimes I question if other people are watching the same player when I read takes like these. I watch him and I essentially see what you’d create in a video game as an ideal hockey player in every single facet. McDavid has been more productive sure, but when you watch them I think he has far more talent than McDavid. He is also a much better 200ft player. He literally is the first man deep on every forecheck, and the first man back on every backcheck; about 90% of the time he’s the first forward back before the center, and 75% of the time he’s back before even the second dman. There is no player as good defensively as Kravtsov in the league IMO. McDavid’s top speed may be slightly faster than Krav (though it might not be, Krav looks slower because he’s so big) but Kravtsov has the much better skating mechanics. He is the best skater in the history of the sport. There really isn’t one category that I don’t think he is the greatest player to ever play the game in, maybe physicality? That’s it.

I am pretty sure you are right, but you have to realize that there is a good reason for Drury to send him down. Drury needed to keep Kravtsov's contract net year low so he can keep the team together. Like imagine Kravtsov played every game with all of his attributes, thats a 15mil 8 year contract MINIMUM. and then imagine he practiced for a full year with DADDY REAVEs? omg he would be best physicality no matter what forever. Trust the process.
 
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Rangers backed themselves into a corner. Kravtsov isn't going to Hartford, big brain Sather likely wont let him come back to NY, so the only option is to trade him and every team knows that. So this will be the 2nd first round pick we parlayed into a 2nd rounder or questionable prospect.
Which makes kravtsov even more stupid. If he’d have kept his trade request private/in house, it would have given Drury more incentive to move him faster while he could still get higher value. I’m sure him and his agent know the temper tantrum and public trade request would lower his value and make drury take his time.
 
I just gotta say, with Sather being back out of nowhere, everything is starting to make sense. And you can justify it all with mental gymnastics, but the fact is that this team is going nowhere with Sather and Dolan. Hope I’m wrong, but I’m remembering now how sad it is to be a Rangers fan.

Please. Shit like this pretty much never happened when Sather was running things.
 
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Sometimes I question if other people are watching the same player when I read takes like these. I watch him and I essentially see what you’d create in a video game as an ideal hockey player in every single facet. McDavid has been more productive sure, but when you watch them I think he has far more talent than McDavid. He is also a much better 200ft player. He literally is the first man deep on every forecheck, and the first man back on every backcheck; about 90% of the time he’s the first forward back before the center, and 75% of the time he’s back before even the second dman. There is no player as good defensively as Kravtsov in the league IMO. McDavid’s top speed may be slightly faster than Krav (though it might not be, Krav looks slower because he’s so big) but Kravtsov has the much better skating mechanics. He is the best skater in the history of the sport. There really isn’t one category that I don’t think he is the greatest player to ever play the game in, maybe physicality? That’s it.

Are you for real dude? you are trolling us hard lol

Maybe he should work on his attitude, because he'd be playing an NHL game tonight if he excelled in that regard.
 
Struggles?

He was assigned for a conditioning stint because of his injury. It obviously was something serious enough to keep him home from the bonding trip for treatment (unless it was his decision to not go up, will never really know). I think thats whats being lost in comparing who was kept up with the big club instead of him.

It is a pattern of behavior. You wanna call it a generational thing then the NHL is going to have a shortage of players and the product on the ice is gonna go south. Agree on Chytil - he and hundreds of others are from that generation and did what they had to do to make it back up. Jones played well enough to earn his spot on this team too, not a peep from him. This is all on Kravstov imo.

Chytil.
Buchnevich.
JT Miller.
Kreider.

All 4 of those guys failed to make a team out of training camp when they, and the rest of us, expected that they'd make it. All 4 went to the minors and all 4 excelled there in a brief stint before being recalled and never looking back.

Maybe Drury should have traded over the summer so it wouldn't get to this point, and I think that's a fair point, but Kravtsov refusing to go to Hartford is on no one but Kravtsov. And there's nothing about Kravtsov refusing the assignment that's defensible.
 
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