Confirmed with Link: Kravtsov requests trade

[HatTrick Swayze]

People are gonna be homers. Blame
VK. Hand wave this away.

What this shows more than anything is that this org is still a complete clusterf*** shitshow.

Just mowing down top 10 picks. Mowing them down. “We don’t need him!!”...yea that’s not the point Vito.

 

[mas0764]

Thank goodness the Rangers won two lotteries and Fox wanted to be here.

At this rate we’re going to need to win another.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Damn people around here turn on players fast. Isnt the first , won’t be the last.

He turned on me first!

 

[AKrangerfan]

I had high hopes and expectations from Kravy. Now I don't want him on the team.

If he wants to play in the NHL he is going about it the wrong way. Throwing a tantrum a second time for being demoted will not entice other GM's to want you on their team. Add in his problems in Russia that had him sent down. If I was a GM I wouldn't touch him. He dropped his value and his odds of going to another team.

What he should have done is go to the AHL and work on his game. If after a month or so he didn't get called up then ask Drury quietly not publicly to find him another place to play. Others have given plenty of examples but Chytil is the one that stands out for me. He didn't whine about being sent down. He played his ass off and made the team bring him back.

Drury and Gallant have every motivation in the world to put the best team on the ice. Their jobs count on it. If they thought Kravy gave them a better chance of winning, he would be on the team.

For those of you saying he is better than Hunt and Hajek... Hunt is a fourth liner, Kravy is not. Hajek is a defense-man, Kravy is not. It's like saying he is better than Georgie. Is he better than Gauthier? My opinion yes he is. I think JG showed more in attitude and drive than Kravy and maybe that is why is the 13th forward.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

What makes this so frustrating is there were so many alternatives the organization could have take, none with this poor of an outcome.

And they a) didn’t see it or b) didn’t care. Both of which are alarming

The lack of foresight and contingency planning is alarming and bad asset management. I think Edge mentioned they should have had a deal or 2 ready to go if this became real.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

I had high hopes and expectations from Kravy. Now I don't want him on the team.

If he wants to play in the NHL he is going about it the wrong way. Throwing a tantrum a second time for being demoted will not entice other GM's to want you on their team. Add in his problems in Russia that had him sent down. If I was a GM I wouldn't touch him. He dropped his value and his odds of going to another team.

What he should have done is go to the AHL and work on his game. If after a month or so he didn't get called up then ask Drury quietly not publicly to find him another place to play. Others have given plenty of examples but Chytil is the one that stands out for me. He didn't whine about being sent down. He played his ass off and made the team bring him back.

Drury and Gallant have every motivation in the world to put the best team on the ice. Their jobs count on it. If they thought Kravy gave them a better chance of winning, he would be on the team.

For those of you saying he is better than Hunt and Hajek... Hunt is a fourth liner, Kravy is not. Hajek is a defense-man, Kravy is not. They very well could be shopping Hajek. It's like saying he is better than Georgie. Is he better than Gauthier? My opinion yes he is. I think JG showed more in attitude and drive than Kravy and maybe that is why is the 13th forward.

A lot of guys started off as yo-yos, Krieder being one of them and Goodrow also most likely. I don’t think he’s going to find a lot of sympathy in that room. Someone is giving this kid terrible advice or maybe he just doesn’t listen well.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

PS Dryden Hunt is still up. Dryden Hunt. Tough to rationalize that one, real tough. “Different rolez” though I know.

Why didn’t you make the team? Dry Hunt got in the way

 

[JT Kreider]

Ryan Callahan scored 2 goals in his playoff debut and then was sent to Hartford the next year

 

[bbny]

Andersson - best opening night intro skater - gone
DeAngelo - best Twitter account(s) - gone
Buchnevich - best jokester - gone
Kravtsov - best hair - gone

The heart can only take so much pain.

 

[gravey9]

I had high hopes and expectations from Kravy. Now I don't want him on the team.

If he wants to play in the NHL he is going about it the wrong way. Throwing a tantrum a second time for being demoted will not entice other GM's to want you on their team. Add in his problems in Russia that had him sent down. If I was a GM I wouldn't touch him. He dropped his value and his odds of going to another team.

What he should have done is go to the AHL and work on his game. If after a month or so he didn't get called up then ask Drury quietly not publicly to find him another place to play. Others have given plenty of examples but Chytil is the one that stands out for me. He didn't whine about being sent down. He played his ass off and made the team bring him back.

Drury and Gallant have every motivation in the world to put the best team on the ice. Their jobs count on it. If they thought Kravy gave them a better chance of winning, he would be on the team.

For those of you saying he is better than Hunt and Hajek... Hunt is a fourth liner, Kravy is not. Hajek is a defense-man, Kravy is not. It's like saying he is better than Georgie. Is he better than Gauthier? My opinion yes he is. I think JG showed more in attitude and drive than Kravy and maybe that is why is the 13th forward.

To further this, Gallant said very clearly in the beginning, I'm not going to keep a prospect around to play on the 4th line. Kravy was never in competition with Hunt. He was in competition with Gauthier, Blais, Goodrow, etc. He didn't beat those guys in camp. He wasn't bad, he was pretty decent in his games. but he didn't beat those guys. There's nothing wrong with sending a young player down when they're on the bubble. Nothing. The only thing I could imagine they could have done is keep Kravy on the team until they find a trade partner. But honestly, what would they have been targetting? A 3C? A 4C? Would we have been ok with that? We weren't going for Eichel. We weren't going for a top 6 center once we committed to Zib. We don't have the money to do that and pay everyone next year. So, I really don't get what everyone is expecting of the FO in this case. They wanted to keep Kravy. They thought he might be okay with a short stint in the A considering he was getting over an injury. I don't think it was a crazy thing to think. I'm sure they approached him in a reasonable way about it and he pouted. it's not good. I agree. But I really can't blame Gallant and Drury for going with a lineup that gives them the best chance to win right now.

 

[RickChartraw]

45 pages and nothing from the hockey professor avgard? hope he shows up for tomorrows game.

 

[bbny]

To further this, Gallant said very clearly in the beginning, I'm not going to keep a prospect around to play on the 4th line. Kravy was never in competition with Hunt. He was in competition with Gauthier, Blais, Goodrow, etc. He didn't beat those guys in camp. He wasn't bad, he was pretty decent in his games. but he didn't beat those guys. There's nothing wrong with sending a young player down when they're on the bubble. Nothing. The only thing I could imagine they could have done is keep Kravy on the team until they find a trade partner. But honestly, what would they have been targetting? A 3C? A 4C? Would we have been ok with that? We weren't going for Eichel. We weren't going for a top 6 center once we committed to Zib. We don't have the money to do that and pay everyone next year. So, I really don't get what everyone is expecting of the FO in this case. They wanted to keep Kravy. They thought he might be okay with a short stint in the A considering he was getting over an injury. I don't think it was a crazy thing to think. I'm sure they approached him in a reasonable way about it and he pouted. it's not good. I agree. But I really can't blame Gallant and Drury for going with a lineup that gives them the best chance to win right now.

I think the idea is that people figured Blais would go on the 4th line, pushing Hunt out and opening a spot in the top 9. The fact of the matter is that Blais simply earned the 3rd line spot he got, and it really wasn't close. He was easily one of their best looking players throughout camp. He came ready to play.

 

[UnSandvich]

Probably an unpopular take here, but if things can't be patched up with Kravtsov (which with an idiot like Drury at the helm, seems like an unfortunate reality at this point), i'm hoping he's sent off somewhere in a fair value trade and all sides end up happy.

Kravtsov seems like an immature kid, and he probably is, but ultimately he has to do what he feels is best for his career. The Andersson trade seems to have worked out for all sides so far, he's fitting in with LA's bottom 6, and we like Cuylle as a prospect.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

Drury wants winners. Wouldn’t be surprised if he said let me send this kid down just to see if I can count on him being a team guy. Sure as shit he couldn’t last a day.

you don’t win with guys like this you just don’t

read those names Mcdonagh Girardi Zucc Callahan Kreider. Winners. they all paid their dues.

Shesterkin came over and literally forced Hank out by destroying the AHL.

Buch and Chytil forced their way to the NHL Hell Chytil was a child alone here from Europe and crushed the ahl his first time there. Didn’t say boo.

these are guys that you know will do what it takes to not just win but to GET BETTER. Kravtsov has proven to be an immature brat from day one. So much so even got sent to middle of nowhere from his traktor team for moping. I don’t trust him not anymore.

how about Gauthier who’s been treated like absolute shit. He’s a first round pick. He basically was given a garbage contract pretty much zero shot to make the team they even gave his jersey number away. All he did was bust his ass the entire camp. The entire preseason. With a fraction of kravtsovs talent.

I have zero use for guys like kravtsov honestly. At best he’s a 50 pt primadonna winger. They’re a dime a dozen def not going to lose sleep over him going elsewhere.

You can’t win with a guy if he isn’t playing

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I mean were you expecting people to pen love letters to him after he refused an AHL assignment and asked for a trade? People are Rangers fans first and foremost. Most are, anyway. Even if you don't agree with him being sent to Hartford or whatever I can't imagine why anyone that wasn't already fawning over him would feel much affinity at this point.

I dont believe everything i read, esp from certain reporters who put spin on things for clicks…. I’d love to hear the real story, but we never will because Brooks and others targeted a player who cant really defend himself in English. Surely you’ve been a fan long enough to see dozens and dozens of stories come out later on to be half false or almost entirely false.

I just dont feel like roasting and throwing a young kid under the bus before we hear everything. Everyone destroyed Lias, then it came out he was bullied in NA, and people took a step back.. People dont learn. And no i was t expecting love letters to him, kind of an odd comment.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

Just because he requested the trade, does that mean we have to oblige? Can’t we just keep him?

 

[New York RKY]

Just because he requested the trade, does that mean we have to oblige? Can’t we just keep him?

The Sabres are testing that theory as we speak, see Eichel, Jack.

 

[MysticLeviathan]

He's not owed anything. But he is in a position to possibly force NYRs hand for a trade. He's looking out for #1; can't blame him for that.

We NHL fans are just as entitled as the players we criticize. Like players should be slaves to our favorite team and 'pay their dues' no matter what? Get real, this is the real world. If Kravtsov can force a trade to better his chances for a starting role, more power to him. Most of us would do the same in our respective occupations.

I agree with this 100%. The only thing I don’t agree with that Kravtsov’s done is refuse his assignment. I wouldn’t at all have minded if he reported to camp but then was extremely vocal about demanding a trade. I wouldn’t blame him for deliberately tanking his return value after how they’ve treated him compared to other prospects. He 100% has a gripe and I hope another team respects him more than we have.

 

[n8]

Kravtsov for Turcotte?
would prefer Newhook or Lundell but probably less likely unless we include more.

for sure. Turcotte seems attainable though because LA is much higher on Byfield and Vilardi. They just signed Danault long term.
Turcotte is totally an expendable asset for them. The only question is if they can accommodate Kravtsov this season. They have Brown, Iafallo, Kaliyev, and Athanasiou down the right side. Brown is UFA next season so a spot might open up but Kravtsov is looking to land somewhere this season so probably not a fit. Two 2nds is probably our best possible package at this point.

 

[AKrangerfan]

To further this, Gallant said very clearly in the beginning, I'm not going to keep a prospect around to play on the 4th line. Kravy was never in competition with Hunt. He was in competition with Gauthier, Blais, Goodrow, etc. He didn't beat those guys in camp. He wasn't bad, he was pretty decent in his games. but he didn't beat those guys. There's nothing wrong with sending a young player down when they're on the bubble. Nothing. The only thing I could imagine they could have done is keep Kravy on the team until they find a trade partner. But honestly, what would they have been targetting? A 3C? A 4C? Would we have been ok with that? We weren't going for Eichel. We weren't going for a top 6 center once we committed to Zib. We don't have the money to do that and pay everyone next year. So, I really don't get what everyone is expecting of the FO in this case. They wanted to keep Kravy. They thought he might be okay with a short stint in the A considering he was getting over an injury. I don't think it was a crazy thing to think. I'm sure they approached him in a reasonable way about it and he pouted. it's not good. I agree. But I really can't blame Gallant and Drury for going with a lineup that gives them the best chance to win right now.

Blais is the one that took his job. I can't argue with that decision. I was expecting him to be a fourth liner but he is much more than that. He is exactly what management was looking for. A big guy that does not pass up a hit and can score. I did not expect him to have the hands he does or to even be a scorer. They are looking to build a team and not have another soft guy that can score occasionally. If Blais was on the fourth line, Hunt would have been sent down and Kravy and Gauthier would be in at third line RW/ 13th forward.

 

[PettersonHughes]

Canucks fan here, I don't know much about him, what kind of player is he, why does he want out and what kind of ask would the Rangers (and you) want in return for him? Also are you guys still looking for toughness after the Wilson situation? Reaves/ Blais/ Goodrow is pretty solid but we have guys like MacEwen with some untapped power winger potential who we waived in favor for Chiasson, so if someone like him is of interest he'd be all yours.

 

[Ned Braden]

A roster spot over the likes of Hajek & Hunt?

Hunt is a much better fourth liner. Hajek has nothing to do with this.

 

[Rangerboy030]

Canucks fan here, I don't know much about him, what kind of player is he, why does he want out and what kind of ask would the Rangers (and you) want in return for him? Also are you guys still looking for toughness after the Wilson situation? Reaves/ Blais/ Goodrow is pretty solid but we have guys like MacEwen with some untapped power winger potential who we waived in favor for Chiasson, so if someone like him is of interest he'd be all yours.

Kravtsov is a tall, lanky skill winger with 1st line upside and potential as a 2-way player. To put it in understandable terms, as far as ability is concerned, he'd be on a similar level as Podkolzin, though pretty different playing styles.

No interest in a 25 year old who had 2 points in 34 games last season - I'd sooner trade him for a pick. Ideally, we'd probably want a C prospect in return who is either also in need of a change in scenery (e.g. Hayton from ARI) or a lower level prospect that still has 2nd line upside (e.g. Kupari from LAK). Don't think VAN has any such piece available.

 

[Barnaby]

My first avatar was Jozef Balej.

My all time favorite platinum blonde.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Chytil also came from Europe like Andersson and Kravtsov. Never pouted or refused any AHL time and grew because of it and to the Rangers knowledge never had immature issues. I blame the players here for being selfish and they are not acting like adults or pro athletes. At 18 you are considered an adult and should act like one. Don’t pout cause you did not make the roster, why not worker harder to get on the roster later on.