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Not looking too good, of course you can always change coach but will it help. Young players cant take the next step in this team, bad luck or something else?

How about our veterans and star players, they should lead the way and show example to these young players and help them develop, to be honest its pretty hard to imagine that from Zib and Panarin. Is this team missing leadership, it tells alot that Jacob Trouba is the captain of this team.
 
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VK74 must go said:
I know this is going to blow up this board when I say this but someone has to tell Panarin that if he doesnt start shooting on the Power Play he will sit. We need Panarin to start shooting to free everyone up. They just leave him alone because everyone including my wife knows he is not shooting the puck!! It is killing the Power Play. I would revamp it and split the minutes more evenly.
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Kreider- Trocheck- Laffy
Mika - Fox

Chytil - Goodrow- KK
Panarin- Miller
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Wait, the one thing that worked last night and you want to change it? Panarin collects points like candy on the PP. Personally I'll go with what works and with the guy who has almost 400 NHL assists.
 

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mjolnir said:
You are 1000% correct. And the fact that the same problems have existed through multiple coaches speaks volumes. Rangers have no discipline, no concept of fundamentals, no accountability nor any kind of structure. Perfect example is how so many players come here and suddenly develop passitis or stop using their bodies and start poke checking.
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According to the Kraken broadcast the Ranges are #2 in the league in hits.
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
It's also possible that we just got unlucky with who our top picks were.

I don't care how much opportunity and ice time you give Lafreniere or Kakko, I don't see either of them being in remotely the same stratosphere as Jack Hughes.

I like both of them a lot as players, but I've never seen anything at the NHL level that indicates they're going to be anything more than high end support players at best. Gabe Landeskog level players. Good players, important players, but not the stars to lead your team. I'd love to be wrong but I'm starting to think this is just the case, I can only blame the coach and organization for so long when the guys on the ice are showing literally nothing to indicate they can be star level players.

Other young players at least show flashes. When Hughes was 18 and 115 pounds as a rookie and struggled he still showed enough to make you go "this kid is going to be a star in a few years." What have we seen from Laf or Kakko ever to indicate that aside from the fact that they're our top draft picks? I like them both and I'm nowhere near closing the book on them but I'm really struggling to remain hopeful they're going to be stars.
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This is such bullshit. It’s almost statistically impossible that ALL of our draft picks don’t pan out. Nature vs nurture. There is definitely enough there with Chytil, and Kakko to have it not be nature. It’s nurture and always has been from this inept franchise.

Also people complain about the kids but 99% of the cap space of this team is made up by the veteran leadership which is laughable. We’ve hitched our ride to winners like Kreider, Mika,, Trouba, and Panarin who have have been net negatives. The rangers obviously signed/resigned them to drive the bus, but now the bus is stalling and they never taught the kids how to drive.

And then on top of not taking responsibility for it, they’ll blame their own negligence on “bad luck” !

This organization’s arrogance stinks from miles away.
 
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We're a poorly coached team.

I do not know how people do not see this. We are not a team. We are a collective of individuals.

Sometimes we can make beautiful plays. Most of the time, there is no cohesion between players. It's dysfunction.

We've reached the point now where it's not bad luck. Nearly 20 games into a season. The coaching staff does not have what it takes to make adjustments and get the players on the same page.

Play harder. Forecheck harder. that's the only adjustment from this coaching staff.
 
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The one line they have not tried yet Laff-Zbad-Kakko

Why not, would it be worse?

Chytil is probably their best current 5on5 guy, Kreider has not been that bad 5on5, yet he has looked disinterested, except that one game where he played with Chytil, right before they moved him back up with Zbad just cause he had that one good game not playing with him. Why not put them back together?

Zbad would ensure Kakko and Laff get ice time

Kreider would ensure his line gets ice time, thus Chytil

Panarin would do the same for whoever is on his line. Kravtsov I guess?
 
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mjolnir said:
All the "tactics" in the world are not going to help if you don't have the players capable and/or willing to execute them.
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Which is why they don't need a player's coach. The reason they play this way is because they have zero direction and Gallant allows them to play like that.
 
will1066 said:
It's not as if Kakko and Laf have never spent time in the top six, though. They've been given time there. A lot of time? No, but certainly enough to see how they get along with those vets, but they never got along well.
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this isn't true though. we had 2 of the 10 best lines in the NHL in GF% with Kakko and Lafreniere on each of them and the coach f***ing split them up after one shitty game. they cannot form chemistry with the other top 4 forwards by continually getting booted off to the third line.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
The 60 minute effort cliche is just that. They're in the NHL every team pushes back. Now the last two games they had at least one really bad period. But overall our underlying numbers are good. Much better than last year.
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60 min effort isn't a physical attribute. Going back to Quinn, how many games have we given up a goal at the beginning of a game or last 30 seconds of a period because of a mental error.

First goal of the game Schneider has all the time in the world to make a play and reverse the flow. Instead he does a no look bank off the side boards that was easily read. We have the same outlet scheme as AV's team. If the seam pass isn't open just grenade it off the boards.

Our 5v5 shot metrics are skewed by perimeter shots. Not to say we aren't finishing on high danger chances (Kaako and Tro) but our possession metrics don't factor in the mental mistakes leading to 3 or 4 breakaways or 2 on 1s a game. That sloppiness is killing us. How many times have left our goalie hanging out to dry with a bad turnover and our forwards have already left the zone.

Just look at Boston and the Perfection line. Bergeron and Marchand have average speed yet they have no problem moving the puck 200 feet. We are too slow mentally which is making us slower physically.
 
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will1066 said:
If the kids don't get minutes, they don't improve. If they don't produce with the limited amount of ice time they're given, they don't get more. It's a self-perpetuating cycle. Drury is not a dumb guy. He is trying to steer toward harder players but his hands are tied to the contracts his predecessors handed out. And once you've spent this amount of money, you want to get your return no matter how hard reality is telling you otherwise. Then you have to go all in on win-now with this "window" and go out and get an experienced head coach, who went to the Final with an expansion team no less, to be able to walk this tightrope of riding these expensive contracts with kid development to winning.
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It’s a recipe for disaster.

If we’re not winning and not developing the kids, WTF are we doing?
 
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zlev11 said:
this isn't true though. we had 2 of the 10 best lines in the NHL in GF% with Kakko and Lafreniere on each of them and the coach f***ing split them up after one shitty game. they cannot form chemistry with the other top 4 forwards by continually getting booted off to the third line.
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Hard disagree with this.
 
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Why would the high hit number be surprising? You can only hit when you do not have the puck.
 
Off Sides said:
The one line they have not tried yet Laff-Zbad-Kakko

Why not, would it be worse?

Chytil is probably their best current 5on5 guy, Kreider has not been that bad 5on5, yet he has looked disinterested, except that one game where he played with Chytil, right before they moved him back up with Zbad just cause he had that one good game not playing with him. Why not put them back together?

Zbad would ensure Kakko and Laff get ice time

Kreider would ensure his line gets ice time, thus Chytil

Panarin would do the same for whoever is on his line. Kravtsov I guess?
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Mika would throw a temper tantrum and cwy that his bff was on a different line. We’ve let the inmates run the asylum for far too long and it shows
 
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Gordon Bombay said:
It’s a recipe for disaster.

If we’re not winning and not developing the kids, WTF are we doing?
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We have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for changes to come. Otherwise, it's still win-now as long as we have a fighting chance of getting into the postseason, which we still do at this moment.
 
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