Post-Game Talk: Krak

[zlev]

i think it all comes down to not playing Hajek. i have no idea what the coaches see in him but he is one of the worst NHL players I have ever watched. the analytics back this up as well. he seems like a nice kid but he's not an NHL player, that's ok neither am I. but holy shit he is not good at ANYTHING out there.

 

[Off Sides]

I think for me it's because I wouldn't consider us that physical, even without the puck. Just my opinion.

I don't think they are physical in the sense they are crushing people or separating the man from the puck, it's more they get credited with hits after the opposing player already moved the puck.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

We have to be scraping the bottom of the barrel for changes to come. Otherwise, it's still win-now as long as we have a fighting chance of getting into the postseason, which we still do at this moment.

I agree that’s what we’re gonna do. It’s what this team has always done, despite “the letter”.

 

[will1066]

I don't think they are physical in the sense they are crushing people or separating the man from the puck, it's more they get credited with hits after the opposing player already moved the puck.

The finishing-their-checks variety. We're wearin' 'em down!

 

[Off Sides]

The finishing-their-checks variety. We're wearin' 'em down!

There are some effective hits, for example Trocheck makes some where the puck then gets turned over. Actually believe it or not, I think Laff does that too.

 

[romba]

Must be refreshing for the West Coasters to not have to, for once, find a TV or log into their devices at 4 or 5 pm local time though lol

They can get their 7 or 730 pm starts when they play other flyover/west coast teams. When they play *checks notes* MY team, no later than 930/630 start times should be allowed

 

[McRanger]

The kid line was fine when it wasn't playing with Hajek and Schneider who were f**king brutal last night.

The kids basically split their 5v5 time a little more than half with Hajek/Schneider and little less than half with the other two pairs and the expected goal difference was like 7% with the 3rd pair and 64% with the other four.

They need to fix that 3rd pair because our forwards aren't good enough defensively to bail them out and the pair is so bad offensively that nothing ever gets started.

 

[romba]

Nice to see Laf continues to try to squeeze by the D near the boards off the rush and gets closed off/crunched into the boards with the puck quickly turned the other way for a fast break. One of these days he’ll have the speed and strength to make it though, one of these days….

 

[will1066]

They can get their 7 or 730 pm starts when they play other flyover/west coast teams. When they play *checks notes* MY team, no later than 930/630 start times should be allowed

It has been decreed!

 

[zlev]

the kid line barely played and yes, when they did, it was more often than not with the 3rd D pair. Laf has looked like ass lately but that is not helping him in the slightest either, they spend their shift stuck in their own zone because Hajek couldn't clear the puck or turned it over at the blueline.

still cant believe the coach putting Vesey and Goodrow out in OT on an OFFENSIVE ZONE FACEOFF over Chytil/Kakko/Laf.

 

[will1066]

There are some effective hits, for example Trocheck makes some where the puck then gets turned over. Actually believe it or not, I think Laff does that too.

Yes, there are. Kakko creates turnovers too using the body. I remember last night in the 1st period there was a close up of Laf hitting someone at the end boards after the guy had already moved the puck out of the zone and I'm thinking, "Coach sees me finishing my checks! I'll get more ice time!"

 

[will1066]

the kid line barely played and yes, when they did, it was more often than not with the 3rd D pair. Laf has looked like ass lately but that is not helping him in the slightest either, they spend their shift stuck in their own zone because Hajek couldn't clear the puck or turned it over at the blueline.

still cant believe the coach putting Vesey and Goodrow out in OT on an OFFENSIVE ZONE FACEOFF over Chytil/Kakko/Laf.

Schneider is as guilty as Hajek. Hajek does not deserve all the blame, plus he had a good 3rd period for as long as I watched until 9 mins top go. 1st GA was directly attributed to Schneider. Schneider is usually the D who touches the puck first in the d-zone. How things turn out usually depends on how he plays it first.

 

[zlev]

Schneider is as guilty as Hajek. Hajek does not deserve all the blame, plus he had a good 3rd period for as long as I watched until 9 mins top go. 1st GA was directly attributed to Schneider. Schneider is usually the D who touches the puck first in the d-zone. How things turn out usually depends on how he plays it first.

sure Schneider isn't amazing but he's an adequate 3rd pair defenseman right now. Schneider-Jones was the best shutdown pairing on the team back when Jones was in the lineup:

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Yes, there are. Kakko creates turnovers too using the body. I remember last night in the 1st period there was a close up of Laf hitting someone at the end boards after the guy had already moved the puck out of the zone and I'm thinking, "Coach sees me finishing my checks! I'll get more ice time!"

Because he's been put in a position where he needs to try to impress this garbage coach so he can maybe get some ice time. If he were on one of like 29 other teams in the league they'd be salivating to put him on the ice in every situation PP, PK, top line. And he'd develop into that player.

 

[will1066]

sure Schneider isn't amazing but he's an adequate 3rd pair defenseman right now. Schneider-Jones was the best shutdown pairing on the team back when Jones was in the lineup:

I can shoot holes in MoneyPuck's chart. Anyway, Jones is definitely a better puck mover than Hajek. But Jones makes his share of bone headed plays each game.

Because he's been put in a position where he needs to try to impress this garbage coach so he can maybe get some ice time. If he were on one of like 29 other teams in the league they'd be salivating to put him on the ice in every situation PP, PK, top line. And he'd develop into that player.

Those 29 teams don't have amazing Panarin and amazing Zibanejad and amazing Kreider, the hockey gods' gifts to us, molded after the gods themselves

 

[CLW]

The problem isn't the coach. This whole organisation is rotten to its core.

This team has not gotten expected value out of a top 10 pick since Brian Leetch.

Imo part of the reason for this is the Original Six/Big Club mentality. The Rangers expects to compete in the playoffs every year (hi Dolan), which means they (coaches, management) look at "effectiveness" first and foremost, so A. "patience with the young players" is extremely limited, B. young players are square pegged no matter what in the name of "effectiveness" (eg Laf RW, no PP time, no OT time etc). The team must make the playoffs, see...

Montreal suffered from the same rot, which they are now (supposedly, lets see how long it lasts) attempting to fix with cleaning the house and a new approach.

 

[romba]

Yes, there are. Kakko creates turnovers too using the body. I remember last night in the 1st period there was a close up of Laf hitting someone at the end boards after the guy had already moved the puck out of the zone and I'm thinking, "Coach sees me finishing my checks! I'll get more ice time!"

Color commentators LOVE it too as it's part of the holy trifecta: Thou shall deliver pucks deepeth, thou shall place pucks on net whilst others place torsos in front, and of course, thou shall finish thine checks.

Players also fall back on these after losses as any question can always be answered with of the holy sayings above.

Why so suck? No pucketh deepth
Why demotion? Not finishing thine checks
Why goalie shit? Torsos in front

 

[DanielBrassard]

Nice to see Laf continues to try to squeeze by the D near the boards off the rush and gets closed off/crunched into the boards with the puck quickly turned the other way for a fast break. One of these days he’ll have the speed and strength to make it though, one of these days….

It's so frustrating watching him time and time again. Maybe try something different next time? you don't even need to be a burner to skate around defenders 1-on-1 but there's seemingly nothing in the arsenal.

sure Schneider isn't amazing but he's an adequate 3rd pair defenseman right now. Schneider-Jones was the best shutdown pairing on the team back when Jones was in the lineup:

There's zero reason for Hajek to be playing as often as he is instead of Jones. That's just how coaches are though so I am not surprised.

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

Hajek vs Jones is not the problem. Neither is Reaves or Carpenter.

 

[will1066]

Even Jones himself has said he hasn't played well enough to keep the job.

 

[Psycho for Perreault]

There are far better coaches on this board than Gallant.

touché

 

[Whoot Whoot]

Was kratsov still out dental

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Which is why they don't need a player's coach. The reason they play this way is because they have zero direction and Gallant allows them to play like that.

The same can be said of Quinn and AV.

 

[Leonardo87]

Goalies are already getting frustrated as they should. If Shesty breaks down this team is in serious trouble.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Imo part of the reason for this is the Original Six/Big Club mentality. The Rangers expects to compete in the playoffs every year (hi Dolan), which means they (coaches, management) look at "effectiveness" first and foremost, so A. "patience with the young players" is extremely limited, B. young players are square pegged no matter what in the name of "effectiveness" (eg Laf RW, no PP time, no OT time etc). The team must make the playoffs, see...

Montreal suffered from the same rot, which they are now (supposedly, lets see how long it lasts) attempting to fix with cleaning the house and a new approach.

In my many years of watching this team, the one constant is that they have always tried to build from the top rather than the traditional "build from the bottom up".

I don't think it's an O6 mentality -- Dolan loses his mind if Rangers don't make playoffs and bring in the real money....after all -- he does need a source of income to continue fielding that travesty called the Knicks.