Post-Game Talk: Kostko is back en vogue

SwedishFire

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What are the chances Desharnais is being showcased as part of a trade for an established top 4 D?
High. Oilers cant develope their own Dmen.
Wich is to bad, I think Desharnias is an interresting case. Give him time to get the idea of NHL before judgement. He is also not here for scoring goals.
 

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The Klim trade really turned out well. Not only for Oilers who got a player to play along our centers, but also for himself. He fits with McDavid and Nuge - wich creates that great depth scoring, while also playing good with Järnmark.

A working 3rd line! Järnmark Nuge Kostin.

If only Kane comes back, they could demolish with Holloway McDavid Hyman
Kane Draisaitl MacLeod..

... aaand a 4th line of Fogele Ryan Yamamoto....

Edit:when you understand that Fogele Yamamoto Puljujärvi is like our 9m$ 4th line , that is sad.
 
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SwedishFire

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Q:
How was Desharnias? A quick report pls?

How was Yamamoto? Does he fill a top6 spot? Does he understand offense, or defense?

Does Pulju or Fogele making any case of trade or stay?

Can ceci play with Nurse, or better off moved to Broberg?
 

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High. Oilers cant develope their own Dmen.
Wich is to bad, I think Desharnias is an interresting case. Give him time to get the idea of NHL before judgement. He is also not here for scoring goals.
It probably doesn't make sense to move him..

Low cap hit until the end of next season, towering at 6'6 210 lbs, and moves pretty well for a big guy his size. He might actually be the only shut down defender on the team lol

I haven't watched him with the Condors but his +/- rating is bonkers at +36 last season. Not really the stat I'd want to rely on for defensive metric but that number stood out the most. He doesn't need to produce but it'd be a nice bonus if he could chip in when he can, the team is still one of the highest scoring team in the league so I'd rather see him prevent goals and play a steady defensive game.
 

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This post is more effective if it denotes that Klim was property of the STL Blues for several years being available to do great work for them and has only been available to the Oilers for months and has surpassed his goals in STL.

Moreso myself and others expected this and that it was more or less a given that Kostin was going to be finding range here with our 3 solid Centers being the ones that primarily feed him. The question I still ask is how did STL give up on the player? But I've been saying that since we obtained him. Kostin and Tolvanen moves were egregious dumb decisions by the respective clubs.

Klim is found first round gold. Found for a far lesser prospect.
 

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I don't get why Desharnis would be showcased. What kind of value does he have? Late round pick? Rather keep the guy for depth down the stretch than get a 6th round pick.

I knew we would win that

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You know 6-2 that kind of win is what I was thinking going into the game last night, but let's be honest. When have the Oilers ever really did what we'd think in a game?
 

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So 15:31 is that like a career low for McDavid in a game?

I mean overall I'm rather shocked to see the difference between least played and most played up front was 3minutes. With the exclusion of McLeod who played like 4 minutes more than the next guy.
 

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Next to zero, IMO. I think they're more likely to trade Nemo than Desharnais
Yet it would be interesting to see how both could be deployed in the lineup. Why would a team not look at moving Kulak at this point who is not a top 4 D either but who comes at higher sticker price. The skating prowess and movement that Kulak has would be more than replaced by Broberg getting more regular minutes. Indeed at some point Broberg will require this for proper development.

I would be hesitant to move either of Desharnais or Nemo as they have shown indication of being gamers. The kind of player personalities that bang open doors, rather forcibly, that play well enough to basically force the orgs to take a greater look at them. Theres a physical component of both that work well in ownzone. Would seem to be two D that could mix in the lineup or even gasp, at some point together as a twin towers unit.

Lets really deep dive with these two to see what we got before moving either. Kulak could be a moveable contract. Couldn't Ceci even be in cards for moving? How would Nurse look with either of Desharnais or Nemo down the road. Theres a component of Nurses physicality that has reduced. But he's skating fine and maybe we free up Nurse to be more the skate puck out type D if we have a strong stay at home. Ceci has punched over his weight here and I appreciate that but it could be we have at least part of an answer down the road in a possible pairing.

In anycase if no other moves are possibly I would hold onto Desharnais/ Nemo for this year as they've shown to be good plug and play D depth at this level in case of injuries or unforeseen circumstance.
 
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I don't get why Desharnis would be showcased. What kind of value does he have? Late round pick? Rather keep the guy for depth down the stretch than get a 6th round pick.


You know 6-2 that kind of win is what I was thinking going into the game last night, but let's be honest. When have the Oilers ever really did what we'd think in a game?
Stauff mentioned Jani Hakenpaa on the broadcast and Desharnais might be being viewed in a similar light. I also think the Oilers want to see what they have at the NHL level with this guy.
 
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Stauff mentioned Jani Hakenpaa on the broadcast and Desharnais might be being viewed in a similar light. I also think the Oilers want to see what they have at the NHL level with this guy.
Ya he's been saying that on his show as well. I just don't think there is a ton of value around the league that would make sense for us to trade him.

See what you have in the guy because honestly who in the NHL actually needs a guy like Hakanpaa more than the Oilers?
 

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I guess whatever floats your boat.. to me it's not even close... Zegras is franchise level player with over 100pts already where Broberg is still getting his footing in place and is #6/7 Dman at best..

You wouldn't find many non Oil fans picking our boy over Zegras.

If Zegras is your franchise player your franchise is a basement dweller.

People need to take a break from the box score scouting and figure out what it takes to win in this league.
 

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So one thing to say, everyone looks so much better when ice time is divided among other players. Nobody looked bad and it had nothing to do with anaheim being bad. The same mistakes from previous games were gone. Maybe Holland/Woodcroft saw the heat coming and played it smart. When hungry players like kostin, holloway, desharnais, etc are given time, they try to prove themselves. we need hungry people to have more time on the ice.

This had everything to do with Anaheim sucking.

Holland Woodcroft didn't win this one was an easy win.
 
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If Zegras is your franchise player your franchise is a basement dweller.

People need to take a break from the box score scouting and figure out what it takes to win in this league.
As if scoring isn't a major part of winning especially on a team that traded away all their established scorers. He is going to be their Hemsky.
 

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Ya he's been saying that on his show as well. I just don't think there is a ton of value around the league that would make sense for us to trade him.

See what you have in the guy because honestly who in the NHL actually needs a guy like Hakanpaa more than the Oilers?
If they're considering a move on the Right side (or that includes the Right side), might want to see if he can handle bottom pairing duty.
 

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As if scoring isn't a major part of winning especially on a team that traded away all their established scorers. He is going to be their Hemsky.

Yes scoring is a necessity. So is not being a liability in every other aspect of the game. It will quickly become apparent to most that Kenny made the right choice.
 

Jimmi McJenkins

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So given where he was picked and how long he battled. Desharnais is a successful draft pick, full stop. Anything he does beyond getting that first NHL game, and playing well (imo), is gravy.

Well done to the scout who pushed for him and well done to the young man.

Also, man the Ducks are bad. And Eakins is purely a minor league coach.
 

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You know 6-2 that kind of win is what I was thinking going into the game last night, but let's be honest. When have the Oilers ever really did what we'd think in a game?

>>I would not be surprised if the Oilers won the game 6-2 or lost the game 6-2 - and against literally any opponent.<<

This was my GDT pre-game comment. :nod:
 

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