Post-Game Talk: Kostko is back en vogue

Kerberos

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This had everything to do with Anaheim sucking.

Holland Woodcroft didn't win this one was an easy win.
As bad as the Oilers are, Anaheim is 10x worse.

Not sure how anybody takes anything out of this game when an AHL team beats this Duck squad more often than not. The bar is so low for a team that made it to the Conference Finals last season.
 

Rengorlex

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Yes scoring is a necessity. So is not being a liability in every other aspect of the game. It will quickly become apparent to most that Kenny made the right choice.
Tell that to Kane, Kucherov, Ovechkin, Kessel, Kuznetsov and Guentzel. Contrary to a popular myth, players that are bad defensively can still be elite winners.
 

OiledUp

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Lol all those players are in a different stratosphere compared to Zegras.....
Yeah those guys are Jere Lehtinen in comparison... Zegras is more in the Yakupov league of defense.
Just for giggles the reporters should've asked Eakins who he thinks is worse defensively Zegras or Nail Yakupov. I'd argue it's close. Zegras isn't as confused but Yak at least could play physical on occasion. Both are great at covering noone while cutting out zero passing lanes.
 

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If Zegras is your franchise player your franchise is a basement dweller.

People need to take a break from the box score scouting and figure out what it takes to win in this league.
I know people like to complain about passing over Zegras at the draft and maybe Broberg wasn't the best pick but I saw Zegras at the draft as a less talented RNH. After watching him in the NHL the past couple seasons I still think that. He's flashier but puts in minimal effort on the defensive side. If we drafted him it would have just been another soft forward to add to our already large collection of soft forwards at the time.
 

Jimmi McJenkins

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Yeah those guys are Jere Lehtinen in comparison... Zegras is more in the Yakupov league of defense.
Just for giggles the reporters should've asked Eakins who he thinks is worse defensively Zegras or Nail Yakupov. I'd argue it's close. Zegras isn't as confused but Yak at least could play physical on occasion. Both are great at covering noone while cutting out zero passing lanes.
Yeah we might need to chill out a bit. He's a young, smallish, skilled player, playing on the worst team in the league, with one of the worst coaches, He's having usual struggles.

He'll get better, but things are rough right now.
 
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So given where he was picked and how long he battled. Desharnais is a successful draft pick, full stop. Anything he does beyond getting that first NHL game, and playing well (imo), is gravy.

Well done to the scout who pushed for him and well done to the young man.

Also, man the Ducks are bad. And Eakins is purely a minor league coach.
The whole situation with Desharnais is quite interesting. Only got an AHL offer after college, but continued to work on his game to earn the NHL contract. Just listening to the guy talk about how thankful he was for that NHL deal and how he wants to prove himself is nice.

I also like that the organization was smart enough to keep him around on that AHL offer. Also thankful at no point did someone swoop in and sign him to a NHL deal. Considering he was one of our better d-men in the AHL(according to Stauffer), he could've very easily left the organization last year.

He was the face of our franchise (along with Smyth) for multiple yrs
Hence why we never made it anywhere when he and Smyth were those guys.
 

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Oh my god I didn't know this. Great news to kick off the day.

Now if only Lee, McIssac, St. Laurant, Furlatt, Kozari, Rooney and Sutherland could quickly follow suit we might actually make some headway towards the goal of bare competent officiating.

Need to get rid of their evil overlords at NHL Head Office first.
 

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Feels like a good time to remind people that Dallas Eakins has 84 regulation wins in 364 games as head coach in the NHL. Opposing coaches have a record of 239-84-41 (a .712 point percentage) which would be the best ever record by a coach with more than 208 games. The only coach with a better record than that and more than a single season of coaching is Tom Johnson who did that with prime Bobby Orr and Phil Esposito.

 
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Feels like a good time to remind people that Dallas Eakins has 84 regulation wins in 364 games as head coach in the NHL. Opposing coaches have a record of 239-84-41 (a .712 point percentage) which would be the best ever record by a coach with more than 208 games. The only coach with a better record than that and more than a single season of coaching is Tom Johnson who did that with prime Bobby Orr and Phil Esposito.

Further to this:

The only coaches that had coached more games than Eakins with a worse points percentage than Eakins are Fred Glover, Tom McVie, Red Sullivan, Doug Carpenter, Milt Schmidt, and Rick Bowness. All of these coaches except Bowness didn't have the benefit of OT losses, shootout wins or 3 on 3 OT wins, and all of Bowness' bad record came in the pre-loser point era.

Also, Eakins and Red Sullivan are the only two coaches with more than 364 or more games coached to never have a single playoff appearance. If Dallas makes his next game, he will be the only coach with 365 or more games without a single playoff appearance (and frankly he's never been close either).

Considering Bowness is doing well now and Eakins is dead man walking, it seems very possible that Dallas Eakins will go down as the worst coach in NHL history.
 
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TheNumber4

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Fun one last night

Oilers passing and execution and overall poise and patience with the puck when making plays was a noticeable improvement last game. They’ll need to do that, but faster against the better teams.

Klim is a beast.

Campbell had a good outting but it’s the Ducks so whatever.

McDrai came to play and added some all timers to the highlight reel.

Ducks are horrrific in front of their own net and with turnovers. It was really something else seeing how bad this Eakins lead group really is. As an organization they’ll be fine though and win a Cup soon on Mintyukovs back.
 
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I think some of the Broberg doubters (some, not all), might be in part that they don’t want to give Holland any credit for passing on Zegras, who seems like a terrible player outside of that one dimension. I still can’t believe he has so many PIM on his team, not for “good reasons either, basically just undisciplined junk like the one that Desharnais drew on him.
Defence take xtra long to make it. U cant have enough quality defence
 

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Yeah if anything I think this shows they're being used appropriately at 5v5. :) Same argument could be applied to the Ceci-Nurse pairing in most ghost but in reverse. If Nurse had a solid partner to slot into the line up that pushed everyone down I think you'd see big improvements on our D.
They should definitely start being less sheltered but still be in a 3rd pair role to see if they can handle the added work. Sheltering them that much is a constant battle, time to ease up on it a bit and see how they play. Not time to push them into a top 4 role like some think.
 
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