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[Canucks LB]

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Also in a interview with EP40 and Friedman before the season, Petey basically confirmed he is not that close with Miller.

 

[Canucks LB]

The last team that traded JT Miller didn't regret it. Just sayin.

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If they thought he was going to be a 100 Point power forward, they would never have traded him.
Winning the cup has basically nothing to do with JT Miller, they would have just moved somebody else.

 

[geebster]

There was so much chatter and nonsense around the Miller v Horvat stuff and how Miller asked out etc that right now I am pretty numb to all of this stuff. Theres probably something there but I am not of the opinion a trade works as a solution. You definitely lose it, and no way you end with 2 top 6 centers after. You make it work.

Gets harder to do so with the media harping about it and fans losing their minds but the solution is you make it work. You don't have to get along to do good work with someone.

 

[Canucks LB]

There was so much chatter and nonsense around the Miller v Horvat stuff and how Miller asked out etc that right now I am pretty numb to all of this stuff. Theres probably something there but I am not of the opinion a trade works as a solution. You definitely lose it, and no way you end with 2 top 6 centers after. You make it work.

Gets harder to do so with the media harping about it and fans losing their minds but the solution is you make it work. You don't have to get along to do good work with someone.

Okay, so he has a attitude issue most likely.
But man, how does a player who goes out, balls out, every game, plays insanely hard, shows up, produces, in both regular and playoffs, and then Petey or who ever try to criticize him for being a hardass?
I feel JT Miller just demands hard work
I feel he just wants that same passion from his team, just like Rich tochett coaches.

 

[David71]

if quinn hughes sat with the coaching staff and rutherford/alvin it will be the most difficult choice for him to pick. him and petey basically played together since they were rookies. miller didnt come to the team until june 2019, trade" september 2019. but hes a good player just wears his heart on his sleeve. hates to lose. they gotta sort it out . this team has a 2 year window before qh bolts IMO frankly and us fans will have to endure another rebuild.

 

[VanJack]

It's really hard to trade one guy making $8m with term, and another guy earning $11.7m with even longer term. It's it's really, really hard.

And it's almost a given that the guys coming back won't be nearly as good as the one guy you're shipping out. It's like the Sabres trading Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhardt; or the Flames trading Matthew Tkachuk.

I mean look at where the Sabres and Flames are today--and where the Knights and Panthers are today.

The Canucks had the option of extending either Miller or Horvat....and chose Miller. And the best time to have traded Pettersson would have been last spring before he signed his monster deal with the Canucks. Rumor was that Carolina was calling with an offer of Necas, Kotkaniemi, Jarvis or some other package.

But the ship on trading either Miller or Pettersson has probably sailed.

 

[Raistlin]

It's really hard to trade one guy making $8m with term, and another guy earning $11.7m with even longer term. It's it's really, really hard.

And it's almost a given that the guys coming back won't be nearly as good as the one guy you're shipping out. It's like the Sabres trading Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhardt; or the Flames trading Matthew Tkachuk.

I mean look at where the Sabres and Flames are today--and where the Knights and Panthers are today.

The Canucks had the option of extending either Miller or Horvat....and chose Miller. And the best time to have traded Pettersson would have been last spring before he signed his monster deal with the Canucks. Rumor was that Carolina was calling with an offer of Necas, Kotkaniemi, Jarvis or some other package.

But the ship on trading either Miller or Pettersson has probably sailed.

Players don't stop being themselves after signing a fair deal. Miller is actually outperforming his deal. And now it seems everyone knows why they are slumping. They will attract bidding wars. One offer a rare all situations elite work rate, the other a similar package albeit a lower ceiling, but compliment that with a fire to win which GMs and coaches love. The return will be substantial, but it'll never be equivalent to the elite piece that Vancouver will trade away. Unless the two grow up and coexist, this will set their contention window back no matter how Allvin spins it.

 

[Curm]

It appears Miller may have also had issues in New York and Tampa, but Pettersson has been a bit of a diva and has had dramatic swings in play and production since arriving.

Miller's contract may age poorly because of his age, but Pettersson isn't worth $11.6 million right now and may never be.

Miller is older, it makes sense to move the older guy who will decline sooner, but if you trade Pettersson for a Byram/Cozens type of return, both players are younger than Pettersson, so the team gets younger overall as a result anyway.

I don't care who goes, just fix the D and also get a quality center in the deal.