Traded Korpisalo (5 years/20M)

[aragorn]

Freddy Andersen was the goalie I wanted Ottawa to sign this summer. Steady, reliable veteran, still more than capable of being a 1A, a perfect mentor for Sogaard.

Me too, but who knows his situation & if he was comitted to Carolina, they may have told him they wanted to re-sign him over the summer & he wanted to stay there. There is so much in these things that we just don't know & it's all conjecture on people's part that we can just get these guys so easily when it's just not true, lots if variables with each situation.

 

[6stringmofo]

Over/Under Korps lets in 3 goals on his blocker side next game.

 

[Rals]

I miss Gus, and I didn't even like him when he was here

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

58/66 in GSAE league wide

Forsberg slightly better at 49

 

[KnockHobbler]

He had a nice shut out in the third period against buffalo, had to wrastle with forsberg though who tried to sneakily steal his thunder

 

[Micklebot]

58/66 in GSAE league wide

Forsberg slightly better at 49

Looking at the shots that beat both goalies, there were some soft ones, but a bunch where there wasn't much of a chance,

I think both guys will improve statistically as the sample increases but I still worry the Korpisalo signing was risky. I was hoping we'd sign Varlamov, not sure about the term he ended up getting though.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Me too, but who knows his situation & if he was comitted to Carolina, they may have told him they wanted to re-sign him over the summer & he wanted to stay there. There is so much in these things that we just don't know & it's all conjecture on people's part that we can just get these guys so easily when it's just not true, lots if variables with each situation.

Well we signed korpi immediately so it seems we had our guy and got our guy

 

[KnockHobbler]

Well we signed korpi immediately so it seems we had our guy and got our guy

They probably knew they weren’t going to get the other guys

 

[Sens Vader]

you signed him to be the starter, play him as the starter.

This whole changing goalies every game is moronic

 

[BondraTime]

you signed him to be the starter, play him as the starter.

This whole changing goalies every game is moronic

He was never going to be a 50+ game starter, he's at best a 1a guy you play for 45-50 games a season.

He's never played 40 games in a year, and only played 30 or more in 4/8 of his seasons in the league

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Looking at the shots that beat both goalies, there were some soft ones, but a bunch where there wasn't much of a chance,

I think both guys will improve statistically as the sample increases but I still worry the Korpisalo signing was risky. I was hoping we'd sign Varlamov, not sure about the term he ended up getting though.

I was just posting those stats. They were discussed on the morning show.
I have not concluded anything. The one concern I had was consistency with Korpisalo. Very early re the stats. Sens need to do a better job at fronting shots, protecting the slot and tying up sticks and helping their goal tender.

 

[DJB]

Freddy Andersen was the goalie I wanted Ottawa to sign this summer. Steady, reliable veteran, still more than capable of being a 1A, a perfect mentor for Sogaard.

Same I wanted Andersen. And I was pretty negative about the Korpisalo contract to begin with. To me it’s impossible to justify that contract as he’s never performed as a quality starting goaltender in his career .

Brutal

 

[Icelevel]

I was hopeful that he was ready to take another big step in his career and be a solid reliable IMPROVEMENT over forsberg. Nothing against forsberg, he’s pretty damn good. But if you’re giving a contract like that to a guy it’s to be exactly what I described.
Not what we’re seeing so far. Still early though so he’s got time to turn it around but so far everyone including himself has to be really disappointed.

 

[Spotlight]

I hate to bring in coaching to the conversation, but i'll talk of a different kind of coach here.

I really wish we would change our goalie coach, Bierk is not it for us, so many goalies have gone through our team since he's been here and they can never seem to get it together (yes there's a part that has to do with the team in front of them and the defense or lack there of, but a goalie needs to be able to steal you some games sometimes and needs to be relied on all the time.

With our goalies, I feel like there's never any confidence when they get in our zone and when saves are made, it's not because of positioning or structure, but always seems to turn into a chaotic event at our crease with everyone flailing around because they know our goalies are not going to be able to handle it.

Maybe we can have a goalie coach that can advise on signings also...because looking at our track record maybe they could whisper a few words before we make our trades or signings.

Having said that, i have no clue who would be available and who would be a goalie change, but i feel like this can be something that could happen relatively quickly as they always operate somewhat independently from the team and not a full part of the coaching staff.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Yesterday was what he's being paid to do. Keep us in games, make timely saves. I'm hoping he'll continue that trajectory.

 

[frightenedinmatenum2]

Same I wanted Andersen. And I was pretty negative about the Korpisalo contract to begin with. To me it’s impossible to justify that contract as he’s never performed as a quality starting goaltender in his career .

Brutal

The contract is easy to justify as that is similar to what comparable goalies get on the open market. The goalie market is completely messed up because more teams have shifted to using tandems rather than the traditional starter who plays 65+ games and whatever backup is convenient. There aren't enough NHL goalies to go around. So anybody who shows they can play decent hockey, even in a small sample size, they get paid as a UFA.

The issue is simply whether the Senators should have given him it or not. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that other teams offered him a higher AAV, but on a shorter term like 1-3 seasons. The term was the strange part of the contract to me, not the AAV.

As far as comparables go - Look at what Driedger got after two strong seasons that saw him play 12 games and 23 games. Forsberg got almost 3 million after 30 or so games here. Even if you look at someone like Ullmark. While the Bruins were vindicated for the contract because he has been elite for them, he got 5M after playing an average of about 30 games per season for his previous 3 seasons (37/34/20).

It's a very risky contract because of the term, but the AAV is what I would have expected them to pay for him give or take 500k in either direction.

 

[DylanSensFan]

I have no concerns about our goalies. I do have concerns about our team defense.

 

[aragorn]

Same I wanted Andersen. And I was pretty negative about the Korpisalo contract to begin with. To me it’s impossible to justify that contract as he’s never performed as a quality starting goaltender in his career .

Brutal

Anderson & all three Carolina goalies are under fire for playing so poorly to start this season, so I guess it's not just Ottawa. I think Ottawa's goalies have been very good at times but have let in some weak ones, we can't really blame the goalie on deflections & double deflections. It's our defence that was suppose to be better than it has & now hit with a number of injuries. This team has been decimated with injuries the last two seasons.

 

[Big Muddy]

Hard to have these conversations or debates about a good starter or 1A/1B when there's no definition of what constitutes each of these terms.

To qualify as a starter these days, does the goalie need to start in at least 45 games?

Does a 1B need to play at least 37 games to qualify as a 1B? Or, would less than 37 games just be called a backup.

When you don't have definitions, the debate will just go around in circles.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Really like how he's settling in. Realizing how big a game this was and coming out so focused bodes well imo.

 

[JD1]

Korpi had the one bad period but otherwise he's been fine.

Going back to the Buffalo game where he came in for the 3rd, he's given up 5 on 86 shots.

He gave us a chance to win in each of his last two starts. Both games on the road. Both games against teams with playoff aspirations. We're 1-1. Nothing wrong with that

 

[Adrianopolous]

I’m the only one who stood up for him

 

[Flamingo]

Korpi is great down low, and we can see why. He doesn't over-react, or cheat by moving early, when there's a puck in the home plate area or around the net. And he's quick and flexible enough to get across the crease if the puck does move east-west. In highlights of his Kings games, it seemed like he kept his balance very well when moving laterally, but with the Sens so far, he's ended up on his back a lot more. (Team effect?) He does seem to lack the more structured upper-body positioning to take away the snipes from sharp angles and from in the slot. He depends a bit more on his excellent reaction skills than, say, Forsberg.

 

[Icelevel]

Korpi had the one bad period but otherwise he's been fine.

Going back to the Buffalo game where he came in for the 3rd, he's given up 5 on 86 shots.

He gave us a chance to win in each of his last two starts. Both games on the road. Both games against teams with playoff aspirations. We're 1-1. Nothing wrong with that

No he’s been average to bad outside of a couple good stretches. Yesterday he was great and needs to keep that up. He played more like forsberg has been playing so far outside his one bad game.

 

[JD1]

No he’s been average to bad outside of a couple good stretches. Yesterday he was great and needs to keep that up. He played more like forsberg has been playing so far outside his one bad game.

Average to bad which game?

He was good last night. Good in long island.

Detroit? Sure, save percentage wise it was terrible. How many goals were his fault though? A lot of redirects in that game.