Traded Korpisalo (5 years/20M)

[Philadelphia Collins]

And look at at that Brossoit contract in Winnipeg of all places!

I was told 1b goalies need to be massively overpaid to sign on Canadian smaller market teams though??? 1 year lmao

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Joonas Korpisalo had a 2-4-0 record in 6 games with a goals against average of 3.77 and a save percentage of .892 in the 2023 playoffs.

He was the number one because he played the games, but he didn't play well.

 

[Boud]

Jarry re-signs in Pittsburgh, Andersen and Raanta re-sign with Carolina, Varlamov re-signs with NYI.

I think that's what happened. There were no goalies readily available on the market. Most guys were never really available. Sens got the guy who actually was ready to shift and made an offer he wouldn't refuse. That's July 1rst for you.

I still maintain that I would rather pay 4M a year to Korpisalo than run with what we had. Also would rather pay Korpisalo than give assets to bring in a Carter Hart.

I want to be open minded about this deal. Let's see what happens.

 

[aragorn]

If this is the only way to get a risky goaltender to come here then just stick with that we have. Would have been no worse off.

Stick with what we have is that your plan? Forsberg coming off two knee operations & Sogaard a rookie? Gettinmg a #1 goalie was their #1 priority, everyone thought so & you would rather they did nothing? Does that make any sense?

What if he turns out to be good? What if he helps them make the playoffs? What if he is better than Forsberg & plays 50 games plus? Let's wait & see before we crap all over the move without knowing how he will turn out, how about we give the poor guy a chance to see if he can be successful here.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Stick with what we have is that your plan? Forsberg coming off two knee operations & Sogaard a rookie? Gettinmg a #1 goalie was their #1 priority, everyone thought so & you would rather they did nothing? Does that make any sense?

What if he turns out to be good? What if he helps them make the playoffs? What if he is better than Forsberg & plays 50 games plus? Let's wait & see before we crap all over the move without knowing how he will turn out, how about we give the poor guy a chance to see if he can be successful here.

Korpisalo the guy who has a history of hip injuries and is coming off a career year playing for a way better defensive team?

Of course he could be good. It’s a huge risk that’s not worth taking. The downside is too great.

 

[UglyPuckling]

He might be but at the same time this team needed a #1 goalie

Maybe/presumably that was the thought process & motivation behind the trade. His stats for previous seasons don't indicate he has been a starter in the past. His 35 game starts in 2019-20 was the most in his career.

I think if he plays like 52 + games as a true starter, he can earn his contract. His contract is indicative of a starter along those lines. Brian Burke made that comment this afternoon on NHL Network.

Do we even know he will play more than Forsberg?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Korpisalo the guy who has a history of hip injuries and is coming off a career year playing for a way better defensive team?

Of course he could be good. It’s a huge risk that’s not worth taking. The downside is too great.

Like Gerber, we got a guy that had a solid year as the number 1, sort of out of nowhere, and then flamed out hard in the playoffs.

I don't understand how people feel good about this.

 

[aragorn]

It's just a sign Dorion is out of ideas. I don't think goaltending fixes this team on its own.

The past few years have essentially been Dorion gambling on getting a star goaltender which is by far the riskiest strategy in all of hockey. There are very few goaltenders that get drafted at a young age and are consistently good for 5+ years like Price or Rinne.

And it's unfair to Korpisalo to expect him to come in and be prime Jonathan Quick and save our poor play night after night after night. And the team in front of Quick was much more sound defensively than we are.

Goaltending does not fix the team on it's own, but it is one very important component to winning & getting into the playoffs. He's also not alone we have Forsberg as the backup who has played well in the past at times & together could be a decent tandem. We also have Sogaard in Belleville as an injury replacement who looked decent last yr at times, but clearly needs a little more development time.

The defence got better from the start last of last season to the start of this season & should add more offence this yr & hopefully cut down on the goals against. We still have one of the best top lines in the NHL, two very good players on the 2nd line & the DBC spot is still up in the air & needs to be fixed with a potential equivalent replacement. That leaves the bottom six & if we can find enough guys who are able to outscore the bottom six we had last yr & help to reduce the goals against a little that could be enough to make this team a playoff team. they will need a little luck & they will need to stay relatively healthy, but IMO they are starting to look better.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Martin Gerber vibes….

Nah, this guy will be a good goalie for us. He almost single handedly upset the Oilers in this years playoffs. If I was thinking about goalies to sign in free agency, Korpisalo would have been one of them.

 

[HSF]

He might be but at the same time this team needed a #1 goalie & he has been a #1 goalie who played quite well for LA during these past playoffs. Forsberg is coming off double knee surgery so who knows what he is going to be like, but if he plays well & Korpisalo plays well enough they could stabalize the team to be a playoff team & that in itself should improve the team.

IMO this team is close to being a playoff contender, they have a much better defence to start next season than they had at the beginning of last season. Clearly they have to stay healthier than they were last yr, but if they can get stable goaltending that should reduce their goals against. They should have two good top lines & need their bottom six to score more than they did last yr to improve their goals for. I also think the defence will increase their goals for & be better at reducing their goals against.

the sample size for him being a number 1 goalie is extremely small that he is not a proven number 1. We gave term and dollars to a guy who could be a number 1

 

[DylanSensFan]

Like Gerber, we got a guy that had a solid year as the number 1, sort of out of nowhere, and then flamed out hard in the playoffs.

I don't understand how people feel good about this.

He didn't flame out hard in the playoffs. Did you actually watch that series? Oilers were absolutely dominating the play and Korpisalo is the only reason the kings held on as long as they did.

 

[Boud]

Maybe/presumably that was the thought process & motivation behind the trade. His stats for previous seasons don't indicate he has been a starter in the past. His 35 game starts in 2019-20 was the most in his career.

I think if he plays like 52 + games as a true starter, he can earn his contract. His contract is indicative of a starter along those lines.

Do we even know he will play more than Forsberg?

At 4M he isn't really paid like a starter. At least not a good one. He's paid like a 1B guy which is likely what he ends up being after next season depending on how Soogard plays.

Legit starters get 5.5+ a year.

Then you have a bunch of guys who are good but not that good between 3-5M.

Hellebyuck is a legit starter, I bet his next deal is in the 7+ range. That's a 50+ games legit starter.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

He didn't flame out hard in the playoffs. Did you actually watch that series? Oilers were absolutely dominating the play and Korpisalo is the only reason the kings held on as long as they did.

I watched every minute of that series.

Oilers were great. Korpisalo wasn't up to the challenge in the context of a #1, he looked like an overwhelmed backup that series.

 

[aragorn]

Maybe/presumably that was the thought process & motivation behind the trade. His stats for previous seasons don't indicate he has been a starter in the past. His 35 game starts in 2019-20 was the most in his career.

I think if he plays like 52 + games as a true starter, he can earn his contract. His contract is indicative of a starter along those lines. Brian Burke made that comment this afternoon on NHL Network.

Do we even know he will play more than Forsberg?

He's being paid more than Forsberg whioch is an indication he should be the starter but as they say he has to win the job first. All goalies are backups before they are starters & have to take the job away from the starter. Let's give this guy a chance to see if he helps to improve the goalie situation before we run him out of town.

 

[HSF]

Nah, this guy will be a good goalie for us. He almost single handedly upset the Oilers in this years playoffs. If I was thinking about goalies to sign in free agency, Korpisalo would have been one of them.

single handedly?

the team that LA lost 4-2 and he had a save percentage of 0.892

jeez the bar is low around here

 

[TeamRenzo]

Dorion probably had to overpay to get JK to sign in Ottawa. Hopefully, he stays healthy, plays well and grows with the team.

 

[maclean]

Not enthused. Attempting to be optimistic

 

[aragorn]

the sample size for him being a number 1 goalie is extremely small that he is not a proven number 1. We gave term and dollars to a guy who could be a number 1

Tell me who else was available who would want to come here at a price we could afford that most of this board would be satisfied with? Let's give him a chance to see how he does is all I'm saying, he deserves that at least.

For those who hate the management team this could be a blessing in disguise, if he sucks & the team sucks they will likely lose their jobs & that should make quite a few people on here happy.

 

[DylanSensFan]

I watched every minute of that series.

Oilers were great. Korpisalo wasn't up to the challenge in the context of a #1, he looked like an overwhelmed backup that series.

Korpisalo was a lot better than Skinner in that series. The numbers don't lie. Yet Skinner ended up in the second round.

 

[Speatleysson]

Well if people thought the Korpisalo deal was bad, don't look at Jarry's new contract. I'm glad the sens got the better deal.

 

[aragorn]

Korpisalo the guy who has a history of hip injuries and is coming off a career year playing for a way better defensive team?

Of course he could be good. It’s a huge risk that’s not worth taking. The downside is too great.

He had one double hip surgery, is that what we term a history of hip surgery's now? The upside is equally as good. What happened to swinging for the fences, or taking a chance on a particular guy. This management team can't do anything right for anyone. Look if it fails you will be happy because they will clean house & you won't have DJ or PD to crap on any more.

 

[HSF]

Korpisalo was a lot better than Skinner in that series. The numbers don't lie. Yet Skinner ended up in the second round.

being better than Stuart Skinner is the bar? yeeshh

 

[Hale The Villain]

Korpisalo is a career .904 SV% goalie

Brossoit is a career .908 SV% goalie

Both are extremely inconsistent year to year

One gets 20M over 5 years, the other gets 1.85M for 1 year

Would love to hear an explanation from management apologists how that makes sense.

 

[HSF]

Tell me who else was available who would want to come here at a price we could afford that most of this board would be satisfied with? Let's give him a chance to see how he does is all I'm saying, he deserves that at least.

For those who hate the management team this could be a blessing in disguise, if he sucks & the team sucks they will likely lose their jobs & that should make quite a few people on here happy.

I would have probably went down the trade route and def not commited to term which most other goalies aren't getting in the market rn

again 'give him a chance' is not the same as a 5 year deal

my god if you are looking at it from the angle that this could get Dorion fired than the bar is so low around here

 

[Que]

I thought Vegas was nuts giving the money they gave to Adin frikkin' Hill but Dorion somehow always manages to out-crazy other GMs. And at least Hill legitimately had a big part in winning them a Cup.

*Steve Yzerman has entered the chat*

Hate the contract, like the player. We just need Forsberg and him to stay healthy and come playoff time one of them will be on their game. You roll with that guy.