Kopitar signs 8year/$80M contract confirmed with link

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I guess I'm the only one that see's this as bad for the fans and for the Kings.This probably means no TT no Lucic and Scheen,all for a guy who thought of himself instead of the team.The cap will probably stay the same or go up a mil or so.

I don't get this at all. You're simply out of touch. Kopitar is a top-10 (arguably top-5) center in the NHL.
 

pretty relevant


Yeah, I agree with you. I am sure that was a major sticking point. While the basic SPC is relatively straight forward, details like this are the kind of thing agents are using to protect their clients. Don't be surprised if the owners try to eliminate players getting paid during a lockout under any circumstances in the next CBA.
 
Stopped reading after the bolded part. How utterly unhinged can one get because something didn't go his way?

It's fine Ron, I'm not unhinged. There are very few generational talents. Those are players like Crosby, Gretzky, Orr, Lemiuex, etc. They are superstars that could win with two scrubs on their wings. That is not Anze Kopitar. That is not Steven Stamkos or Jonathan Toews.

The closest thing to a superstar in the NHL today may be Drew Doughty. It's not a laurel that is easily earned in my eyes.

...and you know what? There's a little button you can use and you can stop reading everything I post.
 
Some of you act like your smarter than Dean Lombardi. It's science, *****es.

It's something Dean had to do, not something Dean wanted to do. Two different things. Dean is smart and he knows this is going to hurt the Kings depth. That's why in every interview leading up to this he mentioned that he was trying to convince Kopitar to take less.

I like how some of you don't recognize that Kopitar and Brisson basically took the max amount they could get and still stay in LA. We'll see how it plays out.
 
kopi = generational talent. he always was, he was dominant when he was 16 or 20 or 25, in that age league. generational dominator. and that's what made him so good, age-relative translated to absolute. even today.
 
kopi = generational talent. he always was, he was dominant when he was 16 or 20 or 25, in that age league. generational dominator. and that's what made him so good, age-relative translated to absolute. even today.

Sorry, he hasn't even been the top center in the NHL. How could he possibly be a generational talent?

He has been very good in the NHL, but not dominant except in spurts. We get it, he's your favorite player, but you don't have to defend him at every turn. It gets a little ridiculous when you start comparing him to Crosby in his prime, or any of the other players I mentioned in their primes.
 
I guess I'm the only one that see's this as bad for the fans and for the Kings.This probably means no TT no Lucic and Schenn,all for a guy who thought of himself instead of the team.The cap will probably stay the same or go up a mil or so.

No Aventador SV for RP either.
 
It's something Dean had to do, not something Dean wanted to do. Two different things. Dean is smart and he knows this is going to hurt the Kings depth. That's why in every interview leading up to this he mentioned that he was trying to convince Kopitar to take less.

I like how some of you don't recognize that Kopitar and Brisson basically took the max amount they could get and still stay in LA. We'll see how it plays out.

This! :handclap:
 
KINGS17, what is your definition of generational talent?

I will give you someone else's definition. You will notice that there are two Los Angeles Kings that are mentioned as having elite talent.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/

Generational Talent – a player for the ages, one who can do things with a puck that no other player would even contemplate doing. Very, very few players will be deserving of this rating, probably one per decade.

Drew Doughty comes close to this. Kopitar is usually into the "safe" play.
 
look, take a break. you're mixing everything into a sinking titanic big hosanna. generational talent = a guy dominating at his age, and that's kopi, at any age. have a beer, really.
 
I will give you someone else's definition. You will notice that there are two Los Angeles Kings that are mentioned as having elite talent.

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/playerprojections/



Drew Doughty comes close to this. Kopitar is usually into the "safe" play.

Funny how folks will attack in a mob mentality if someone else's has a legit difference in opinion on this contract and its impactions on this teams ability to keep a solid team together.Kopi has handcuffed this team so he could get max pay while hurting the rest of the team being able to retain the roster.Thats a huge deal.So great,we have Kopi signed for 8 more years while having to dump a few others to make it work fabulous thinking.Thanks King17 for actually thinking this thru.
 
kopi = generational talent. he always was, he was dominant when he was 16 or 20 or 25, in that age league. generational dominator. and that's what made him so good, age-relative translated to absolute. even today.

Gear down there big rig. Has he won the Hart? Conn Smyth? Multiple personal hardware? Has he even had a 90+ point season (much less multiple) at all? Will he end top 20 points of all time?

I'll throw some generational talent names:

Gretzky
Messier
Lemieux
Orr
Hasek
Crosby
Ovechkin


Kopitar fits along the Sundin line to me. Perennial all star, who has tremendous talent and close to MVP status, but certainly not generational. But certainly generational for citizens of Slovenia ;)
 
Gear down there big rig. Has he won the Hart? Conn Smyth? Multiple personal hardware? Has he even had a 90+ point season (much less multiple) at all? Will he end top 20 points of all time?

I'll throw some generational talent names:

Gretzky
Messier
Lemieux
Orr
Hasek
Crosby
Ovechkin


Kopitar fits along the Sundin line to me. Perennial all star, who has tremendous talent and close to MVP status, but certainly not generational. But certainly generational for citizens of Slovenia ;)

two cups so far, count that in. that's generational.
 
look, take a break. you're mixing everything into a sinking titanic big hosanna. generational talent = a guy dominating at his age, and that's kopi, at any age. have a beer, really.

You asked the question, sorry you didn't like the anwer.
 
Contracts like these virtually guarantee that the owners will exercise their option to terminate the existing CBA on September 1, 2019. NHL GMs simply can't help themselves. The owners will correct the situation. The cap will likely be stagnant for much of the next four seasons. It's going to impact teams like Chicago and the Kings the most.

Why would an owner care what a GM chooses to pay a particular player when the GM stays within the overall budget - whether it's the cap or a lower internal budget?
 
Some really dumb GM is going to severely overpay for Stamkos, and the fans of that team will call him generational talent.
 
Why would an owner care what a GM chooses to pay a particular player when the GM stays within the overall budget - whether it's the cap or a lower internal budget?

Because it's real money they pay the player when they use a compliance buyout. Then the owner gets to pay for a guy to take the place of the player that was bought out. That's why.
 
ok, kopi went to sweden when he was 16, he was too good for the local scene and that was generational. proved himself. picked by lak in first round, generational, proved himself. got a chance with a very good team and won two cups, generational, proved himself. dominating his age in every department since he was 16, and i can tell you, he was dominating when he was 14 or less. generational: follow a player how he dominates the game very early, as a kid. that's kopi compared to his generation, or to absolute.
 
Because it's real money they pay the player when they use a compliance buyout. Then the owner gets to pay for a guy to take the place of the player that was bought out. That's why.

Of course - except you're assuming there will be a compliance buyout of Kopitar. I'm not.
 

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