Kopitar signs 8year/$80M contract confirmed with link

[Reclamation Project]

I think Stamkos is a better player than Kane. By quite a far margin.

 

[Herby]

I think Stamkos is a better player than Kane. By quite a far margin.

I don't know about that.

 

[Reclamation Project]

Stamkos is having arguably his worst season yet and he's on pace for 40 goals.

 

[Basilisk]

Why do I get the feeling it's actually going to be 10 years @ 8 per?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I completely disagree.

Kane has been clutch in the playoffs and can create offense on his own. He's much more creative, saavy, and better at dealing with checking.

Stamkos hasn't been able to do much without St. Louis hooking him up and others have to constantly do the heavy lifting for him. Great at goals, no doubt, and I hate to say 'one trick pony' when it's obviously a valuable trick, but give me Kane all day.

 

[tsanuri]

Why do I get the feeling it's actually going to be 10 years @ 8 per?

Since 8 years is the max contract length it can't be.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

I love what Lucic has brought this year, but there is no way the Kings can/should sign him at anywhere near market value. Honestly, we gotta win as much as we can in the next 2-3 years because the Kings are on borrowed time with the cap

 

[Reclamation Project]

I'm not saying I'd build my team around Stamkos, but he's a ****ing goal machine. I think he's better than Kane and I'll still say that this time next season when Kane has cooled off and Stamkos is on pace for another 90 point season (something Kane has never done). And I'm hardly a points guy.

I'd still take Kane given his playoff dominance, but I think Stamkos is getting shortchanged recently. He's having a rough year.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

I get nervous any time Patrick Kane is on the ice. Stamkos isn't as dangerous as Kane. Stamkos relies on his shot, whereas Kane is so deceptive and lethal due to his playmaking, skating, stick handling, shooting... he is someone you can't give any time and space inside your own blueline.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Everyone talks about the cap increasing like it'll only go up for the Kings. Our competitors will also have the benefit of their star players talking up a smaller percentage of their cap along with being able to add extra pieces. It's a wash.

That's a two way street. We've had Carter on a sweetheart, cap circumventing contract ever since we got him.

I completely understand and agree with the notion that 10 million a season is absurd money, and Kopitar needs to earn it. My only response here is what else was Dean gonna do? You can't let a player like Kopitar just walk away in the middle of your Cup window. As soon as Toews signed his deal, it was obvious Kopitar's would be in the same ballpark. These guys have had almost identical careers. Kopitar could have very easily won both Conn Smythes, same with Doughty.

I get just as frustrated when he goes into low power mode, but let's look at the bigger picture here. He's been a consistent 70 point Selke forward for years now. Go back and watch the Sharks and Ducks series from 2014. That's Kopitar leading the way.

And to be honest, wringing our hands about the Kopitar money is just a distraction from the real hand wringing that is Dustin Brown.

 

[Ron*]

I get nervous any time Patrick Kane is on the ice. Stamkos isn't as dangerous as Kane. Stamkos relies on his shot, whereas Kane is so deceptive and lethal due to his playmaking, skating, stick handling, shooting... he is someone you can't give any time and space inside your own blueline.

Agreed. Feel the same way. Every time he touches the puck I've got 100 butterflies in my stomach. Guy is the most dangerous forward in the league, bar none. I was freaking out continuously during the WCF in 2014. Playing the Rangers in the SCF was like a walk in the park compared to the Blackhawks in the WCF.

Los Angeles and Chicago are on a collision course to again meet in the WCF. You heard it here first.

 

[Reclamation Project]

I also think Kopitar is better than Toews.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

That's a two way street. We've had Carter on a sweetheart, cap circumventing contract ever since we got him.

I completely understand and agree with the notion that 10 million a season is absurd money, and Kopitar needs to earn it. My only response here is what else was Dean gonna do? You can't let a player like Kopitar just walk away in the middle of your Cup window. As soon as Toews signed his deal, it was obvious Kopitar's would be in the same ballpark. These guys have had almost identical careers. Kopitar could have very easily won both Conn Smythes, same with Doughty.

I get just as frustrated when he goes into low power mode, but let's look at the bigger picture here. He's been a consistent 70 point Selke forward for years now. Go back and watch the Sharks and Ducks series from 2014. That's Kopitar leading the way.

And to be honest, wringing our hands about the Kopitar money is just a distraction from the real hand wringing that is Dustin Brown.

Yep.

Have our top two centers, amongst the top-5 in the league, locked up for less than 8 apiece.

 

[Kingsfan1]

I think Lucic will be resigned around 6.5 million and i honestly believe Brown will be moved at the draft .

 

[TopT]

I get nervous any time Patrick Kane is on the ice. Stamkos isn't as dangerous as Kane. Stamkos relies on his shot, whereas Kane is so deceptive and lethal due to his playmaking, skating, stick handling, shooting... he is someone you can't give any time and space inside your own blueline.

this

 

[KingsFan7824]

Stamkos is a goal scoring winger playing center. Kane is a playmaking center playing on the wing.

 

[damacles1156]

I think Lucic will be resigned around 6.5 million and i honestly believe Brown will be moved at the draft .

Paying Lucic that kind of money puts retaining Toffoli in jeopardy. It's not worth it.

Toffoli is the Kings big money future winger.

Folks, Brown is not going to be easy to move, not to mention the Public (Storm) it's going to cause.

Brown is not some AHL plug, like Mike Richards became.

 

[mrkolice]

No, of course it will go down if HRR taken in by Candian teams and converted to U.S. dollars gets reduced due to the exchange rate. Remember what I posted about escrow going up from 16% to 20%? That tells you everything you need to know about what the NHL really thinks about HRR for this season.

Teams don't hedge to protect HRR, they hedge to protect themselves so they can pay the players in U.S. dollars as they are contractually required.

it's a bit more complicated and "creative".

here's an insight.

NHL’s bottom line, expansion plans at risk with Canadian currency struggles
Washington Post, by Will Hobson September 7, 2015

In an email, Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly, wrote, “While it clearly is a hardship for the Canadian clubs, it is less so than in previous years because (1) clubs are better prepared to deal with it (most have hedged revenue streams), (2) the system is different and to a certain extent ‘self-adjusts’ to account for different values in currency.â€

Daly declined to answer follow-up questions about how the league “self-adjusts.â€
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rules are flexible, in a ****-might-happen sense. lower salary cap is bad for nhl and loonie alone shouldn't shake it.

just a pragmatic view.

 

[Bandit]

I think Stamkos is a better player than Kane. By quite a far margin.

*Regular season

When you facter in playoffs it's Kane by a country mile. Stamkos folds like a San Jose Shark in a cheap suit.

 

[mrkolice]

stamkos wasn't that bad in last playoffs. imo he's lacking something to become really great but i'm not sure what it is.

 

[gnarls barkley]

stamkos wasn't that bad in last playoffs. imo he's lacking something to become really great but i'm not sure what it is.

he's one dimensional, guys who can't create their own shot reliably need a great setup man to really get the best out of them

unbelievable goal scorer to be sure, but hes increasingly looking like a poor man's Ovechkin to me lately

Kane is going to be infinitely more dangerous in the playoffs because he's not reliant on another player, he IS the guy driving whatever line he plays on.

 

[KINGS17]

it's a bit more complicated and "creative".

here's an insight.

NHL’s bottom line, expansion plans at risk with Canadian currency struggles
Washington Post, by Will Hobson September 7, 2015

In an email, Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly, wrote, “While it clearly is a hardship for the Canadian clubs, it is less so than in previous years because (1) clubs are better prepared to deal with it (most have hedged revenue streams), (2) the system is different and to a certain extent ‘self-adjusts’ to account for different values in currency.â€

Daly declined to answer follow-up questions about how the league “self-adjusts.â€


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rules are flexible, in a ****-might-happen sense. lower salary cap is bad for nhl and loonie alone shouldn't shake it.

just a pragmatic view.

...and yet no one can cite these "rules", and Daly declined to answer how it "self-adjusts". If HRR declines the cap will follow. Without the players using the escalator clause the cap would have remained the same this season.

 

[mrkolice]

...and yet no one can cite these "rules", and Daly declined to answer how it "self-adjusts". If HRR declines the cap will follow. Without the players using the escalator clause the cap would have remained the same this season.

well, that's how it works. welcome in nhl "socialism" with a strong central office and planned economy

 

[johnjm22]

Dustin Brown was the last NHL player I can remember that took a true home town discount, on his middle contract.

I wouldn't even call Brown's previous contract a hometown discount.

At the time he signed that deal, his career high in goals was 17. The cap hit was 3.175M, which doesn't sound like a lot, but that cap was only about 50M around that time.

Dean gambled that Brown would develop in into a 20/30 goal scoring top 6 forward, and it paid off, but it wasn't a discount at the time it was signed.

 

[mrkolice]

I wouldn't even call Brown's previous contract a hometown discount.

At the time he signed that deal, his career high in goals was 17. The cap hit was 3.175M, which doesn't sound like a lot, but that cap was only about 50M around that time.

Dean gambled that Brown would develop in into a 20/30 goal scoring top 6 forward, and it paid off, but it wasn't a discount at the time it was signed.

that was a part of the deal going back to brown's previous contract. some sort of compensation, and it was agreed beforehand , there's a red thread between the dots. but kopi wasn't in the same situation as brown. kopi wanted "no leave" and that's where the problem was. as we see kopi got his "no leave", that's why only 10M. kopi = king forever, but i'm not sure about brown.