Post-Game Talk: kong

[DudMan28]

What I don’t get is how Gaut goes from scratched to getting OT minutes over Laf. Laf needs to be better but also needs more TOI. Let him work through it

 

[duhmetreE]

What I don’t get is how Gaut goes from scratched to getting OT minutes over Laf. Laf needs to be better but also needs more TOI. Let him work through it

before he got Covid, he was going to play on the Right Side with Panarin....

he lost his chance because of covid... Since then Gallant continues to play him with Chytil, who have been bad together, and with McKegg and Reaves yesterday....

Why is it so hard to leave him in the top6 like he's left Kakko in the top6. LET HIM PLAY WITH TALENT FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD

 

[Synergy27]

I thought it very interesting on the trivia question tonight that the last Rangers player to lead the league in scoring was in the 41-42 season. Hope Kreider can keep it up, would be nice to have the leading goal scorer on this team

I guess Adam Graves, recalling his 52 goals in ‘94. What I neglected to recall was that he was one of NINE 50 goal scorers that year and of course way off the leader Pavel Bure with 60.

 

[Synergy27]

What I don’t get is how Gaut goes from scratched to getting OT minutes over Laf. Laf needs to be better but also needs more TOI. Let him work through it

4 on 4 or 3 on 3 OT is all about leveraging the massive space suddenly available on the ice. You can do this a couple of ways, with speed or with patience/vision.

Laf doesn’t offer either of those things right now. He is also knocked off the puck too easily to be trusted on these situations.

I wanted Laf in every OT last year. This year is different.

 

[duhmetreE]

I have an extremely hard time believing that's possible. The 5v5 issues are too deep rooted.

Panarin and Zibanejad are being opportunistic but aren't driving play. Kreider never drives play, he just parks it in front and deflects shots in, which has to come from other players' possession of the puck. Laf and Kakko and Chytil have not arrived yet. Bottom end players like Goodrow, Rooney, etc, just don't generate enough offense and never will.

I don't think adding a Hertl into the lineup and a Gauthier out of the lineup changes nearly enough. You still have all the same problems.

What you need is the maturation of 3-4 of your young stars into offensive possession and shot generators (Kakko, Laf, Chytil, maybe Kravtsov) and the arrival of plus players from your system (Barron, Panjuniemi, etc) to fill out the bottom and replace the black holes down there.

It is at that point that adding an icing on the cake piece becomes attractive.

Until then the team is going to have the same problems. Hertl isn't going to have the impact people think; he's way more likely to get lost in the wash.

This is a step in the right process. Making the Playoffs is step1. We need to start somewhere and this is a great start for one of the youngest teams in the league.

There's area for great improvement.... when that improvement does come... we will be a force and the team to beat.

 

[mas0764]

This is a step in the right process. Making the Playoffs is step1. We need to start somewhere and this is a great start for one of the youngest teams in the league.

There's area for great improvement.... when that improvement does come... we will be a force and the team to beat.

Yes, agreed. Not saying that we should be tanking at this point.

I"m just saying we shouldn't be paying premium prices to rent and "go for it," either. Just take the playoffs and win what you can win with Fox and Shesterkin and Panarin.

 

[kovazub94]

Live reminder of why it was an excellent idea to move Lemieux. Got himself thrown out with a major and it easily could've been two PP goals for the Rangers with just a tiny bit more luck. Dumb player is dumb.

 

[jay from jersey]

This was my yesterdays gdt post at 3pm.
couple things.....

1. Rangers 8-0-0 @Home vs Eastern foes
2. Haven't played Pitt, Wash., Car. NYI (Isn't that odd?) Bos.,Det. or Ottawa
Only 4-3-2 vs West
(teams that dont visit NY often really DO "Get UP and RISE to the occasion in playing in OUR house!

3. Bet its Lindgren banged up. (what else is new?)
4. GOAT on 2nd PP? I suppose there for retrieval AND/OR planting in front ala Kreids with less hands. lol.
irrelevant though, they see very little PP time.
5. Okay, more than a couple, sorry.

amen to that

 

[bhamill]

Nice game. Very entertaining until the last moment. Dull 2nd period. I think Drury will be very active. He might start after next Tuesdays game with a first deal. Edmonton?
Regarding dinner, had a big kidney stone attack on Sunday evening. Been drinking only water and eating some white bread. Plus some lovely meds that keep me Comfortably Numb. 6th time I got this. Know the procedure pretty well now, not recommended nor wished upon (almost) anyone I might add

Feel better, buddy!

 

[TheBloodyNine]

This was my yesterdays gdt post at 3pm.
couple things.....

1. Rangers 8-0-0 @Home vs Eastern foes
2. Haven't played Pitt, Wash., Car. NYI (Isn't that odd?) Bos.,Det. or Ottawa
Only 4-3-2 vs West
(teams that dont visit NY often really DO "Get UP and RISE to the occasion in playing in OUR house!

3. Bet its Lindgren banged up. (what else is new?)
4. GOAT on 2nd PP? I suppose there for retrieval AND/OR planting in front ala Kreids with less hands. lol.
irrelevant though, they see very little PP time.
5. Okay, more than a couple, sorry.

RE: Bolded - Rangers had their game at the Garden against Islanders in November cancelled.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

@Machinehead MSG Post Game Show Highlights and Commentary.

 

[Machinehead]

@Machinehead MSG Post Game Show Highlights and Commentary.

Thank you. I was stuck at work last night so it was a radio game for me.

 

[duhmetreE]

Thank you. I was stuck at work last night so it was a radio game for me.

how did we sound?

 

[cwede]

oops i voted for Adam Fox but I meant to vote for Adam Fox

 

[McRanger92]

Yes, agreed. Not saying that we should be tanking at this point.

I"m just saying we shouldn't be paying premium prices to rent and "go for it," either. Just take the playoffs and win what you can win with Fox and Shesterkin and Panarin.

The two big names we keep hearing aren’t rentals. I’m sure they’ll still add a rental of some kind but it seems as if they are fine adding term if the contract is reasonable

 

[CupSeeker]

didn’t we have 9 shots through 2 or something?

However, the shots we did have were high quality and he was amazing.

 

[mas0764]

The two big names we keep hearing aren’t rentals. I’m sure they’ll still add a rental of some kind but it seems as if they are fine adding term if the contract is reasonable

Miller is a rental. It's just a two season rental.

Chychrun isn't, but I'm apprehensive about parting with too much for him for other reasons. Not that he isn't a good player, but I think he's closer to Trouba than Fox, and the value contract doesn't move me on it that much (especially because if he's not elite then the contract isn't THAT much of a value).

I'm also not sure how much I want to build my team as "defense first," at the expense of offense.

Granted, the much discussed contender checklist I keep posting would suggest we need another defender of Chychrun's caliber (well, his caliber last year, this year he's not really been that good, but let's assume that if he comes here he plays like he did last season).

But we have so much in the system on defense, pulling the trigger on that consolidation deal seems premature to me, as if Chychrun costs 4 pieces, I'm not convinced I can't fill that same spot with one piece later, the propect himself, simply by natural development. In other words, why do I want to pay 3-4 long term pieces for Chychrun if Miller will become Chychrun level in 2 seasons?

I need that ammo for forward and center desperately. Adding Chychrun seems like I'm paying a premium that I cannot afford for immediacy, not because it's what's best for the 2023-24 team.

And again, because I don't think this team can possibly win this year, I don't really care about paying to try to do that.

 

[CupSeeker]

39 regular season games remaining. Would like to see 35 year old Ryan Reaves play a max of 20 of them. Keep him strong for the playoffs and let one of our prospects pick up some games to strengthen our depth.

Reaves will be the 13th forward come playoff time.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

Reaves will be the 13th forward come playoff time.

That’s highly unlikely

 

[bhamill]

Reaves will be the 13th forward come playoff time.

Not so sure about that, he hits constantly and wearing down the opponent in a series is a big plus.

 

[haveandare]

AZ seems to want a return for Chychrun as if last year was his normal, but so far that’s actually the outlier. I’d be hesitant to spend a ton on him.

 

[Machinehead]

how did we sound?

Stemmer hated it

 

[CupSeeker]

Quick has been slipping a bit the last few years but I've seen him put in the odd incredible game. He made some nice saves tonight.

they weren't but the Kings do shoot from everywhere and we pass, pass, pass, lose possession, defend.

 

[CupSeeker]

Kakko has been in the top6 ALL season. He has been nothing spectacular but Gallant has shown patience with him....

Where is it with Laffy? IMO Laffy has been showing way more than Kakko... where's his chance? and patience? He looks good in the top6 but it lasts 4 periods.

I love Laf and expect him to be great, eventually. But KK has exhibited much better puck control and defensive responsibility than Laf and neither is finishing. Having said that, Laf based on our roster should be in the top 6.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

That’s highly unlikely

Not so sure about that, he hits constantly and wearing down the opponent in a series is a big plus.

Agree. That’s why I would want him in game shape but not exhausted.
Last night he seemed a step slow on catching players to engage physically. Up until this game he appeared to be on point.