Post-Game Talk: kong

[mas0764]

AZ seems to want a return for Chychrun as if last year was his normal, but so far that’s actually the outlier. I’d be hesitant to spend a ton on him.

Agreed.

You think you are getting like a 23 year old Roman Josi, that might not be the case, you might be getting Jacob Trouba but a little better.

 

[mas0764]

No mas, No mas, mas! you really know how to put a damper on things with your "wisdom". jeez. whatever GOOD feelings I have in regard to my team, you and a few others have taken me off my "high horse". I guess I should be bowing down, right about now. Yes master, yes master.

You can feel good, because we are good.

Just don't get delusional.

 

[ohbaby]

Agreed.

You think you are getting like a 23 year old Roman Josi, that might not be the case, you might be getting Jacob Trouba but a little better.

I wouldn't compare him to Trouba. This guy doesn't throw his body around. He hits less than K'Andre Miller does. Doesn't block shots either.

 

[ohbaby]

I have posted the scoring streaks that Fox and Kreids are on. Panarin is also on a 5 game point streak with 9 points. And Zibad just ended an 8 game point streak.

Now I know these are just individual stats, but when was the last time, all of our top stars have been going this well at the same time? Talk about the need of your top stars to produce and lead the way. Just wow!

This has really been a season to remember. One of the best first half of the season, the Rangers ever had.

 

[DudMan28]

I have posted the scoring streaks that Fox and Kreids are on. Panarin is also on a 5 game point streak with 9 points. And Zibad just ended an 8 game point streak.

Now I know these are just individual stats, but when was the last time, all of our top stars have been going this well at the same time? Talk about the need of your top stars to produce and lead the way. Just wow!

This has really been a season to remember.

If Kakko, Laf, Chytil take even the slightest steps forward and start providing any secondary scoring this team is going to be really dangerous

 

[ohbaby]

I have an extremely hard time believing that's possible. The 5v5 issues are too deep rooted..... Laf and Kakko and Chytil have not arrived yet. Bottom end players like Goodrow, Rooney, etc, just don't generate enough offense and never will.
.....What you need is the maturation of 3-4 of your young stars into offensive possession and shot generators (Kakko, Laf, Chytil, maybe Kravtsov) and the arrival of plus players from your system (Barron, Panjuniemi, etc) to fill out the bottom and replace the black holes down there.

This take is a little funny in that what you are proposing,... is exactly what we planned and succeeded to get away from last year.

We specifically went out to toughen up our bottom six. To add grit and determination. And in doing so, had to let go of some skilled players in Buchnevich and Kravtsov, which you are now proposing we need more of. More skilled players that can score and fill the black holes that you say exists in our bottom six.

I'm sorry, but that is a bit funny, because we have played close to our very best,... first half season of hockey, the Rangers have ever played in their long, storied history.

So it certainly seems, the moves this organization made in the offseason, to prioritize grit and toughness over skill and scoring ability, has paid huge dividends to the success we now enjoy.

Your so called 5v5 deep rooted issues,... seems to be a non-issue to the success of this team.

 

[ohbaby]

Rangers get a well-deserved couple of days off after playing 3 games in 4 nights. But then go right back to it playing another 3 in 4 days, starting in Columbus.

The Jackets will be playing a second of a back-to-back against us on Thursday, so that will favor us. But then we fly home and play the next night against the Wild. Playing in front of the home crowd and raising the King's banner, could give our tired legs all it needs to overcome. I look for another successful 3 in 4, finishing up with Seattle at home on Sunday.

Then we have one game left before the break.

LGR!

 

[mandiblesofdoom]

I think last year was supposed to be about making the team better. Maybe it worked because the team is definitely better this year.

This year is about winning.

Winning what? Regular season or playoffs? They're already in the playoffs.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I have posted the scoring streaks that Fox and Kreids are on. Panarin is also on a 5 game point streak with 9 points. And Zibad just ended an 8 game point streak.

Now I know these are just individual stats, but when was the last time, all of our top stars have been going this well at the same time? Talk about the need of your top stars to produce and lead the way. Just wow!

This has really been a season to remember. One of the best first half of the season, the Rangers ever had.

I wish the Rangers were less frustrating to watch in game though. I long for that 2014 team that dominated every opponent. So tough getting outshot every game and not generating much 5 on 5.

 

[McRanger92]

If Kakko, Laf, Chytil take even the slightest steps forward and start providing any secondary scoring this team is going to be really dangerous

If we can add a top 6 forward and even 1 of those guys has a breakout 2nd half, the 5v5 issues will be much less glaring. I cant understand why some fans think this team is so far off, because they arent.

 

[ohbaby]

Laf seldom beats another player 1 on 1 at any point in a game whereas Gauthier usually gets two chances a game and beats a defender and a winger but just can't finish . The thing is though is that he is creating plays and rebounds and wearing down the opposition with these plays and they are also aware he is out there which can be a distraction of sorts . Laff has to find a bit more speed in his game to earn extra shifts when the bench gets shortened .

Gauthier is also drawing penalties with that speed.

I just love how he crashed the net directly into Quick, to try and throw him off his game. You knew his intentions going in. LOL

 

[ohbaby]

I wish the Rangers were less frustrating to watch in game though. I long for that 2014 team that dominated every opponent. So tough getting outshot every game and not generating much 5 on 5.

I have a completely different take. This is by far the most exciting team we have seen in a long time. Never seem to be out of it. Completely taking over late in games. Very exciting.

Dominating opponents, not at all exciting.
I could care less about our 5 on 5 play and getting outshot, as long as we continue to win.

We as Rangers fans, need something more than dominating opponents. Like a guarantee and then going out and scoring a hattrick. Or a Matteau, Matteau, Matteau! Or a Marik Malik going between the legs in round 15 of a shootout.


Thank you Loffen.

Look at that dead pan look he gives afterwards. How can you not love this game?

 

[Mandar]

I wish the Rangers were less frustrating to watch in game though. I long for that 2014 team that dominated every opponent. So tough getting outshot every game and not generating much 5 on 5.

I wished for that in ‘94 also….the series against the Devils and the Canucks were the most nerve wracking times I’ve ever had. We were too nervous to enjoy it while it was happening. It’s not in the Rangers DNA to give us nice things that doesn’t cause an ulcer along the way.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I wish the Rangers were less frustrating to watch in game though. I long for that 2014 team that dominated every opponent. So tough getting outshot every game and not generating much 5 on 5.

Lets be real...

If this team were like that team, you'd be complaining about their inability to finish. This isn't because its you, but its because that was like the main complaint amongst EVERYONE during the regular season.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

I have a completely different take. This is by far the most exciting team we have seen in a long time. Never seem to be out of it. Completely taking over late in games. Very exciting.

Dominating opponents, not at all exciting.
I could care less about our 5 on 5 play and getting outshot, as long as we continue to win.

We as Rangers fans, need something more than dominating opponents. Like a guarantee and then going out and scoring a hattrick. Or a Matteau, Matteau, Matteau!

As exciting as these comebacks are I'd rather win 5-0 than 3-2 any day of the week. Also, when I say dominated I don't necessarily mean by score. We just get outplayed it seems 5 on 5 no matter what the score.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Lets be real...

If this team were like that team, you'd be complaining about their inability to finish. This isn't because its you, but its because that was like the main complaint amongst EVERYONE during the regular season.

Yeah you're right. That team was frustrating because we'd see performances like Quick's performance last game like every other game and we'd lose. I was thinking yesterday how other than maybe the second Nashville game we haven't really gotten a game stolen against us by a goalie this year. I just don't like being outplayed so often and starting so slow.

 

[ohbaby]

I'm gonna be very emotional on Friday. I will not be able to hold it together.

So glad he is around for postgame shows. A true talent on and off the ice. Long live the King.

 

[mas0764]

This take is a little funny in that what you are proposing,... is exactly what we planned and succeeded to get away from last year.

We specifically went out to toughen up our bottom six. To add grit and determination. And in doing so, had to let go of some skilled players in Buchnevich and Kravtsov, which you are now proposing we need more of. More skilled players that can score and fill the black holes that you say exists in our bottom six.

I'm sorry, but that is a bit funny, because we have played close to our very best,... first half season of hockey, the Rangers have ever played in their long, storied history.

So it certainly seems, the moves this organization made in the offseason, to prioritize grit and toughness over skill and scoring ability, has paid huge dividends to the success we now enjoy.

Your so called 5v5 deep rooted issues,... seems to be a non-issue to the success of this team.

The reason the Rangers stunk last year and the reason they are so good this year is because of the development of their stars like Fox and Shesterkin, the continued excellence of Panarin and Zibanejad, and the resurgence of Kreider.

The overabundance of bottom six nothing burgers has very little to do with it. It's actually a negative, not a positive, that Hunt, McKegg and Reaves all see major time. You can get by with one of those guys, but with three of them, it's bad news.

 

[Larrybiv]

If those rumors ended up being true, it's not like they couldn't have been fixed with some maturity.

It was rumored he was partying too much. Seems reasonable to think a kid who got traded twice in a year might have been humbled and seriously re-committed himself to being the best player he can be and that means taking things off the ice just as seriously as things on the ice.

Miller got traded twice, is 4 years older, got married and had two kids. Him maturing and outgrowing his locker room issues wouldn't be a shock, especially considering how much better of a player he has been since we traded him. Seems like it was all a real wake up call for the kid and he turned his career around.

That being said, I think he could be a fit but it would have to be the right move. I'm not sure I see it. I'm pretty sure someone else will trade Vancouver more for him than Drury will (rightfully) be willing to part with.

probably so, but with that said.....does J.T. have any say so in WHERE he goes?
I think JT. had a pretty nice following, (I was one of them) and also feel pretty confident he liked playing here (except for his coach), and would LOVE a 2nd chance to prove he is a different/better player.
I would welcome him.

 

[Larrybiv]

You can feel good, because we are good.

Just don't get delusional.

I try not to lie to myself about my fandom. Reality is what it is, but even still, there is NO reason why I can't root hard, enjoy every game while enjoying the ride. PO's are a foregone conclusion, and from the looks of things around the league, if healthy and Shesty being Shesty, there is no real reason why we can't do some damage. The deeper they go, the better in the long run. We simply need PO experience. Clutch performances often come from very unexpected sources. Also, miracles do happen. I am a Mets fan. Nuff' said.

 

[will1066]

I have a completely different take. This is by far the most exciting team we have seen in a long time. Never seem to be out of it. Completely taking over late in games. Very exciting.

Dominating opponents, not at all exciting.
I could care less about our 5 on 5 play and getting outshot, as long as we continue to win.

We as Rangers fans, need something more than dominating opponents. Like a guarantee and then going out and scoring a hattrick. Or a Matteau, Matteau, Matteau! Or a Marik Malik going between the legs in round 15 of a shootout.


Thank you Loffen.

Look at that dead pan look he gives afterwards. How can you not love this game?

Crispy!

 

[leetch99]

I wished for that in ‘94 also….the series against the Devils and the Canucks were the most nerve wracking times I’ve ever had. We were too nervous to enjoy it while it was happening. It’s not in the Rangers DNA to give us nice things that doesn’t cause an ulcer along the way.

It's funny you mention that...I remember standing in the bar not that far from Coach Gallant watching the game on the bar TV and watching him and a few of his friends cheering for the Canucks at the time in 94 . I probably was the only Ranger fan in the whole building and I would have been fairly intoxicated back then LOL ...it's a wonder they never threw me out of the place . Turk was almost GOD around town....and still is ! Watching the Rangers was hard...11:30 starts and then a fellow would be hammered at the bar watching it ....geesh...it was rough...LOL...the good old days !

 

[ohbaby]

The reason the Rangers stunk last year and the reason they are so good this year is because of the development of their stars like Fox and Shesterkin, the continued excellence of Panarin and Zibanejad, and the resurgence of Kreider.

The overabundance of bottom six nothing burgers has very little to do with it. It's actually a negative, not a positive, that Hunt, McKegg and Reaves all see major time. You can get by with one of those guys, but with three of them, it's bad news.

I disagree as I would think many here would. The development of Fox is a bad example as he is the reigning Norris Trophy winner. And you can say the same for Shesty. He's been excellent since his arrival. These two certainly didn't need any breaking in period.

Reaves and Goodrow have been excellent additions to this team and have made all the difference between this year and last season.

Reaves sets the tone with his forecheck and aggressive play. And everyone is following his lead. With Troub's laying out opponents like never before,.. to Julien Gauthier getting more ice-time with his physical play.

Goodrow brings all the intangibles that make a good hockey player. His overall game of a complete two-way player shows on a nightly basis. And is being rewarded with major ice-time. He's been averaging 19 minutes in the month of January. Winning face-offs, blocking passing lanes on the PK, occasional goals scored, winning board battles, forechecks, cycles well protecting the puck, this guy does it all.

It's fairly easy to see,... they were what was missing last year. These are two warriors who lead by example.

 

[McRanger92]

I disagree as I would think many here would. The development of Fox is a bad example as he is the reigning Norris Trophy winner. And you can say the same for Shesty. He's been excellent since his arrival. These two certainly didn't need any breaking in period.

Reaves and Goodrow have been excellent additions to this team and have made all the difference between this year and last season.

Reaves sets the tone with his forecheck and aggressive play. And everyone is following his lead. With Troub's laying out opponents like never before,.. to Julien Gauthier getting more ice-time with his physical play.

Goodrow brings all the intangibles that make a good hockey player. His overall game of a complete two-way player shows on a nightly basis. And is being rewarded with major ice-time. Close to 17 minutes a game. Winning face-offs, blocking passing lanes on the PK, occasional goals scored, winning board battles, forechecks, cycles well protecting the puck, this guy does it all.

It's fairly easy to see they were what was missing last year. These are two warriors who lead by example.

These guys are calming influences on the ice and in the room for a team that is still top 5 youngest in the NHL. Last year when things broke down it was a disaster, this one does much better job of keeping cool when things arent going well.

 

[will1066]

TV alert: Hank will be on the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon