Kitchener Rangers 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

[GeoBlue]

Potentially working on a Schmidt trade before the Martin injury? Could see him finishing the year in Sag.
Assume Campbell gets pushed to 7th d and Scott gets moved.

A bright side to the Martin injury? Can only play 3 OA's during a game. Gives the Rangers time to assess and "build value" with Schmidt before making a trade decision, while Martin is out? Wasn't impressed with him last year but a few games with Juicy magic might get him playing to his potential. For all we know, that is why TB might have sent him back here.

 

[RangerNation]

When does a team need to be down to 3 OA's? Does one being injured make a difference? Can't seem to find it on the OHL site.

 

[Krangers08]

A bright side to the Martin injury? Can only play 3 OA's during a game. Gives the Rangers time to assess and "build value" with Schmidt before making a trade decision, while Martin is out? Wasn't impressed with him last year but a few games with Juicy magic might get him playing to his potential. For all we know, that is why TB might have sent him back here.

Was hurt and missed all training camp. More to get him reps

When does a team need to be down to 3 OA's? Does one being injured make a difference? Can't seem to find it on the OHL site.

Have to be down to 3 post deadline

 

[HockeyPops]

Technically, the OA deadline is the day before the regular deadline I believe, but yeah, it's basically the same deadline within a day.

 

[OHL4Life]

Technically, the OA deadline is the day before the regular deadline I believe, but yeah, it's basically the same deadline within a day.

if your at 4, you have to waive them the day before, and they dont clear until the deadline. so its all clerical.

 

[RangerNation]

Technically, the OA deadline is the day before the regular deadline I believe, but yeah, it's basically the same deadline within a day.

Thought there was another deadline to go from 4 to 3, and then trading OA's was the day before the trade deadline.

 

[Jives]

Thought there was another deadline to go from 4 to 3, and then trading OA's was the day before the trade deadline.

I thought so too. Like a month before actually trade deadline you must be down to 3 OAs.

 

[EvenSteven]

I think there’s a time in November that you have to be down to four. Then four to three a day before the deadline.

 

[Matttheleaf]

I think there’s a time in November that you have to be down to four. Then four to three a day before the deadline.

This was my understanding as well

 

[OHL4Life]

This was my understanding as well

yup, November 15th

 

[Jives]

Pinelli….2 points in 9 games. I wish AHL keep track of ice time….can’t find it anywhere. That would make me switch from sell mode to go for it mode right away.

I think there’s a time in November that you have to be down to four. Then four to three a day before the deadline.

Ahh….that rings a bell. I was thinking 3 but I think you are right and it’s 4.

 

[GeoBlue]

Pinelli….2 points in 9 games. I wish AHL keep track of ice time….can’t find it anywhere. That would make me switch from sell mode to go for it mode right away.

I hope you're saying that you would trade Pinelli for picks and use them for this year? If you kept Pinelli, you would have to get rid one of Sop, Missile or Motew. First 2 are a big reason why we are in first place right now. As for Motew, he showed his worth during the playoffs last year. And you would have to get rid of one more if you want Schmidt around.

And in the back of my mind, I wonder who exactly it was that was the "downer" in the dressing room that some have hinted about? Chemistry is huge as of right now.

 

[Matttheleaf]

I hope you're saying that you would trade Pinelli for picks and use them for this year? If you kept Pinelli, you would have to get rid one of Sop, Missile or Motew. First 2 are a big reason why we are in first place right now. As for Motew, he showed his worth during the playoffs last year. And you would have to get rid of one more if you want Schmidt around.

And in the back of my mind, I wonder who exactly it was that was the "downer" in the dressing room that some have hinted about? Chemistry is huge as of right now.

Pinelli would more than likely be viewed as one of, if not the best player in the league if he was sent back and even being an OA would fetch a high ransom. He would also really make a challenging decision for Mike if he wanted to keep him because we would have 5 OA's then.

 

[Krangers08]

I hope you're saying that you would trade Pinelli for picks and use them for this year? If you kept Pinelli, you would have to get rid one of Sop, Missile or Motew. First 2 are a big reason why we are in first place right now. As for Motew, he showed his worth during the playoffs last year. And you would have to get rid of one more if you want Schmidt around.

And in the back of my mind, I wonder who exactly it was that was the "downer" in the dressing room that some have hinted about? Chemistry is huge as of right now.

Arcuri could be more likely as he’s currently in the ECHL. If it’s pinelli Ottawa makes too much sense

 

[rangersblues]

I hope you're saying that you would trade Pinelli for picks and use them for this year? If you kept Pinelli, you would have to get rid one of Sop, Missile or Motew. First 2 are a big reason why we are in first place right now. As for Motew, he showed his worth during the playoffs last year. And you would have to get rid of one more if you want Schmidt around.

And in the back of my mind, I wonder who exactly it was that was the "downer" in the dressing room that some have hinted about? Chemistry is huge as of right now.

If Pinelli was " a downer in the dressing room" I would be shocked beyond belief.

 

[GeoBlue]

If Pinelli was " a downer in the dressing room" I would be shocked beyond belief.

Not saying it was him. Could have been Schmidt, Arcuri, Zilkin, etc?

 

[ktownfan]

From word here in Kingston it could be Arcuri. He had a bad attitude and selfish at times

 

[TheBlueMonster]

I was never a big schmidt fan.

I thought he was very overhyped in a way. Never looked like a top pairing D. Honestly even top 4 was slippery. I have more confidence in Andy, Motew, Bruzzer, Reid, Hamara, then I do with Schmidt. And I'd hate to see this slide Campbell out of the line up potentially.

Get rid of him. Not for nothing but teams will pay.

 

[Habsrule]

Getting Schmidt back really helps the rebuild.

Rangers will now be forced to eventually trade an OA this year. We can all speculate as to who the odd man out will be. Whoever it is will get some sort of a decent return as all four carry decent value.

Just say that it is Schmidt who gets traded and he goes for a Lleyton Moore type of return; Serpa, 2nd, 3rd and 8th. The OA that comes to Kitchener would just be released but the draft picks would really help with not needing to sell off at this trade deadline. It is like getting free assets.

 

[EvenSteven]

Getting Schmidt back really helps the rebuild.

Rangers will now be forced to eventually trade an OA this year. We can all speculate as to who the odd man out will be. Whoever it is will get some sort of a decent return as all four carry decent value.

Just say that it is Schmidt who gets traded and he goes for a Lleyton Moore type of return; Serpa, 2nd, 3rd and 8th. The OA that comes to Kitchener would just be released but the draft picks would really help with not needing to sell off at this trade deadline. It is like getting free assets.

We have from Friday to the return of Martin from injury at least, to sort out Schmidt vs Motew.

And after, if we’re selling off, listen to offers on all OA’s.

But I think we give Schmidt to this coaching staff and see what happens.

 

[rangersblues]

Not saying it was him. Could have been Schmidt, Arcuri, Zilkin, etc?

I think the biggest problem with dressing room attitude was a coach who wouldn't admit his system sucked and continually threw players under the bus. And that's only from what he stated publicly. Who knows what was said in the room.

 

[bobber]

I think the biggest problem with dressing room attitude was a coach who wouldn't admit his system sucked and continually threw players under the bus. And that's only from what he stated publicly. Who knows what was said in the room.

Not really worth worrying about last years issues. Missteps were made and it's water under the bridge. I think you are correct Blue about the coaching issues contributing to the alleged team issues. Hopefully the Rangers benefit somehow with Schmidt coming back into the fold. No matter what MM decides I think the team will benefit from it.

 

[EvenSteven]

I think the biggest problem with dressing room attitude was a coach who wouldn't admit his system sucked and continually threw players under the bus. And that's only from what he stated publicly. Who knows what was said in the room.

Yet there was no indication that was rectified with Dennis being let go.

The quotes from players said this year was better than last year as far as chemistry or culture or whatever on the team is concerned.

 

[EvenSteven]

Potentially working on a Schmidt trade before the Martin injury? Could see him finishing the year in Sag.
Assume Campbell gets pushed to 7th d and Scott gets moved.

Saginaw might not be the best trade partner for Schmidt is far as the Rangers are concerned. They already have three OA’s and we may be expected to take one back.

Also, they already have two OA’s on D. Do they want another since F-Loukas may be the OA they’d prefer to part ways with?

A better trade partner may be Missy. They have an open OA spot and could use a veteran addition to their young D corps.

Could we get a picks return from Missy comparable to Lleyton Moore?
2nd ‘24
3rd ‘24

Forgo the 8th to have these picks be in ‘24.

 

[Tim Wallach]

For all those saying they weren’t a fan of Schmidt, I think it’s only fair to see how he looks under this coaching staff.