Kitchener Rangers 2023-24 Season Thread (Part 3)

[rangersblues]

I’m assuming it would be a struggle to get out his contract/ switching country’s, adjusting to the NA game in the strongest stretch during the year. he was a wait and see pick like mesar

I can see why they wouldn't want to let Pobezal out of his contract. How would they fill in the 2 minutes he plays every game

 

[EvenSteven]

I can see why they wouldn't want to let Pobezal out of his contract. How would they fill in the 2 minutes he plays every game

Why would future prospects sign with a team who wouldn’t let a player out of his contract even if they are barely playing him, if that player wishes to get out of the contract?

Does Pobezal actually want out of the contract?

 

[Rangers True Blue]

Why would future prospects sign with a team who wouldn’t let a player out of his contract even if they are barely playing him, if that player wishes to get out of the contract?

Does Pobezal actually want out of the contract?

I can't imagine that he is satisfied with being the 13th forward and getting next to nothing minutes. He's like a (for Bobber) fish out of water and needs to go somewhere where he will not only get those minutes...but develop. Can't develop sitting on the bench...

 

[Offside by a mile]

I can’t advocate moving Reid at this deadline. He’s contributing now and even if we add a couple veteran D, he’ll still dress.

Romano, on the other hand, would be hard pressed to dress in the post season even if we add only one veteran forward.

So, assuming Owen Beck could fetch a team’s ‘07 or ‘06 1st rounder this year, one would have to assume that Rehkopf could net the same next year. That being the case, moving Romano this year, when you pretty much know his value can be replaced next year, seems logical considering our position in the standings this year and our thin draft pick cupboard.

Who are the teams next year who look to be top contenders? Who’d be willing to move their ‘08 1st rounder? Or perhaps their ‘07 1st rounder?

For example, let’s look at Missy. They’ll contend a little this year, but will be a top team next year. They have two stud goalies. The belief is they’ll have to move one after this year. How would a Rehkopf / Ivankovic deal look? It would certainly look pretty good for our future in net and it would ease the pain of moving a Romano this year.

I love your takes "Even" you're a big part of the reason we all come on this board and chime in. You're always keeping it interesting.


Another way to look at this is: What's the 07 year look like with all our current studs ( say we don't deal them, plus the addition Rehkopf and Ando bring next season. Trading away Romano and then recouping with Rehkopf doesn't need to be codependent of each other. We can keep our young studs and then deal our assets next season to improve on this 07 group.

I know i sound like the pessimist in the group but with Sag hosting we know damn well they will be loaded up. Not to mention the game i watched agianst Soo back in Dec keep in mind they were without Allard/ Karki and Bryce MCB they looked miles ahead of us. ( i know we were missing players as well)

I cannot help but keep saying that trading away Romano and Reid and loading up, to be knocked out in the 2nd round playing either the Knights/Soo/Sag does not sit well with me.

Soft Buy Camp- Pickup a Vet D man/ maybe a 3 line C and let it roll. Keeps the chemistry intact and allows the Rookies playing time to develop.

Who's with me? LOL i don't think MM is........

 

[rangersblues]

I love your takes "Even" you're a big part of the reason we all come on this board and chime in. You're always keeping it interesting.


Another way to look at this is: What's the 07 year look like with all our current studs ( say we don't deal them, plus the addition Rehkopf and Ando bring next season. Trading away Romano and then recouping with Rehkopf doesn't need to be codependent of each other. We can keep our young studs and then deal our assets next season to improve on this 07 group.

I know i sound like the pessimist in the group but with Sag hosting we know damn well they will be loaded up. Not to mention the game i watched agianst Soo back in Dec keep in mind they were without Allard/ Karki and Bryce MCB they looked miles ahead of us. ( i know we were missing players as well)

I cannot help but keep saying that trading away Romano and Reid and loading up, to be knocked out in the 2nd round playing either the Knights/Soo/Sag does not sit well with me.

Soft Buy Camp- Pickup a Vet D man/ maybe a 3 line C and let it roll. Keeps the chemistry intact and allows the Rookies playing time to develop.

Who's with me? LOL i don't think MM is........

There's no way on earth they trade both Reid and Romano. I'd say the odds of them trading Reid are close to zero too. Rightfully so. Trading Romano - I'd say a little under 50-50. It would be for something big if it does happen.

 

[Jives]

I love your takes "Even" you're a big part of the reason we all come on this board and chime in. You're always keeping it interesting.


Another way to look at this is: What's the 07 year look like with all our current studs ( say we don't deal them, plus the addition Rehkopf and Ando bring next season. Trading away Romano and then recouping with Rehkopf doesn't need to be codependent of each other. We can keep our young studs and then deal our assets next season to improve on this 07 group.

I know i sound like the pessimist in the group but with Sag hosting we know damn well they will be loaded up. Not to mention the game i watched agianst Soo back in Dec keep in mind they were without Allard/ Karki and Bryce MCB they looked miles ahead of us. ( i know we were missing players as well)

I cannot help but keep saying that trading away Romano and Reid and loading up, to be knocked out in the 2nd round playing either the Knights/Soo/Sag does not sit well with me.

Soft Buy Camp- Pickup a Vet D man/ maybe a 3 line C and let it roll. Keeps the chemistry intact and allows the Rookies playing time to develop.

Who's with me? LOL i don't think MM is........

I’m with you. We need an import F, depth vet 3rd liner and 2 depth D. None of that cost Reid or Romano.

 

[Billyjack]

I love your takes "Even" you're a big part of the reason we all come on this board and chime in. You're always keeping it interesting.


Another way to look at this is: What's the 07 year look like with all our current studs ( say we don't deal them, plus the addition Rehkopf and Ando bring next season. Trading away Romano and then recouping with Rehkopf doesn't need to be codependent of each other. We can keep our young studs and then deal our assets next season to improve on this 07 group.

I know i sound like the pessimist in the group but with Sag hosting we know damn well they will be loaded up. Not to mention the game i watched agianst Soo back in Dec keep in mind they were without Allard/ Karki and Bryce MCB they looked miles ahead of us. ( i know we were missing players as well)

I cannot help but keep saying that trading away Romano and Reid and loading up, to be knocked out in the 2nd round playing either the Knights/Soo/Sag does not sit well with me.

Soft Buy Camp- Pickup a Vet D man/ maybe a 3 line C and let it roll. Keeps the chemistry intact and allows the Rookies playing time to develop.

Who's with me? LOL i don't think MM is........

I'm with you !00%, we are not on top of the league for no reason

 

[EvenSteven]

I’m with you. We need an import F, depth vet 3rd liner and 2 depth D. None of that cost Reid or Romano.

We can’t accomplish all that, while at the same time not trade an 07, and presere our high ‘24 picks.

We don’t have the ammo.

And I’ll say that at least one of the incoming D has to be of some quality.

 

[RangerNation]

We can’t accomplish all that, while at the same time not trade an 07, and presere our high ‘24 picks.

We don’t have the ammo.

And I’ll say that at least one of the incoming D has to be of some quality.

Yeah, can't imagine getting 4 players at the deadline.

Martin is returning, so there's 1.
Import rumours all over the place. Vilmanis, Sale, Pobezal.
Biggest of all, they need D. Can't score their way out of games in the playoffs. Very unsustainable. Don't think we have seen any rumours on the D front, so we wait and see!

 

[Jives]

We can’t accomplish all that, while at the same time not trade an 07, and presere our high ‘24 picks.

We don’t have the ammo.

And I’ll say that at least one of the incoming D has to be of some quality.

I think it’s enough to get 4 players without touching the 2024 picks and 2007s. Might have to dip into 2024 picks but I see no way the 2007s need to be touched. We can always recoup the 2024 2nd if we make a trade for one of our returning players in the offseason.

Morey
Scott
Mercer
2024 - 4th and 5th
2025 - 4th and 5th
2026 - 2nd, 4th, 5th
2027 - 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Bottineau
Campbell
Ellinas

Then
2024 3rd
2024 2nd

Very last option
Stark (off-season 2 part trade)
Romano
Lam (off-season 2 part trade)
Reid

 

[bobber]

Yeah, can't imagine getting 4 players at the deadline.

Martin is returning, so there's 1.
Import rumours all over the place. Vilmanis, Sale, Pobezal.
Biggest of all, they need D. Can't score their way out of games in the playoffs. Very unsustainable. Don't think we have seen any rumours on the D front, so we wait and see!

Who would be totally shocked if Pobezal showed up in Kitchener? I certainly would. Names get thrown out at the deadline but you can't wish them on to the roster.

 

[bobber]

I think it’s enough to get 4 players without touching the 2024 picks and 2007s. Might have to dip into 2024 picks but I see no way the 2007s need to be touched. We can always recoup the 2024 2nd if we make a trade for one of our returning players in the offseason.

Morey
Scott
Mercer
2024 - 4th and 5th
2025 - 4th and 5th
2026 - 2nd, 4th, 5th
2027 - 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Bottineau
Campbell
Ellinas

Then
2024 3rd
2024 2nd

Very last option
Stark (off-season 2 part trade)
Romano
Lam (off-season 2 part trade)
Reid

If the last option happens and the Ranger go flat in the play offs like the Spits last year there will be a lot of sad faces. Seriously lose Lam and I will force myself to drink a can of Bobby Margarita.

 

[RangerNation]

Who would be totally shocked if Pobezal showed up in Kitchener? I certainly would. Names get thrown out at the deadline but you can't wish them on to the roster.

Hard to say. Mesar being on the team may influence a change of scene for him. I just know, a simple text saying "bro, what are you doing, get over here" would work on me haha.

 

[Jives]

Who would be totally shocked if Pobezal showed up in Kitchener? I certainly would. Names get thrown out at the deadline but you can't wish them on to the roster.

I think Mike McKenzie mentioned his name in The Record about a month ago. Maybe it was Josh Brown….either way they made a comment that he might still be an option. I think it the % goes down everyday that goes by. If he was going to come it probably would of been announced by now I think anyways.

 

[Ward Cornell]

Any expendable assets should be going towards obtaining 2 d-men.
Only after those 2 d-men are acquired and if any expendable assets are left then maybe go for a 3rd d-man. With Martin back we're ok upfront.
If Pobezal shows up as a freebie then ok.

 

[Jives]

If the last option happens and the Ranger go flat in the play offs like the Spits last year there will be a lot of sad faces. Seriously lose Lam and I will force myself to drink a can of Bobby Margarita.

I think if a 2007 does go it would be Romano.

 

[bobber]

Any expendable assets should be going towards obtaining 2 d-men.
Only after those 2 d-men are acquired and if any expendable assets are left then maybe go for a 3rd d-man. With Martin back we're ok upfront.

True Ward. They have to find a way to stop the leaks. Too many short handed and odd man rushes when it's all offense.

 

[Ranger77]

Any expendable assets should be going towards obtaining 2 d-men.
Only after those 2 d-men are acquired and if any expendable assets are left then maybe go for a 3rd d-man. With Martin back we're ok upfront.
If Pobezal shows up as a freebie then ok.

Like Hamara and Schmidt?

 

[EvenSteven]

I think it’s enough to get 4 players without touching the 2024 picks and 2007s. Might have to dip into 2024 picks but I see no way the 2007s need to be touched. We can always recoup the 2024 2nd if we make a trade for one of our returning players in the offseason.

Morey
Scott
Mercer
2024 - 4th and 5th
2025 - 4th and 5th
2026 - 2nd, 4th, 5th
2027 - 3rd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Bottineau
Campbell
Ellinas

Then
2024 3rd
2024 2nd

Very last option
Stark (off-season 2 part trade)
Romano
Lam (off-season 2 part trade)
Reid

Nobody will be interested in Morey, Mercer, or Scott. Not really. If anything, they’d go the other way in a deal to give them a place to play and fill a spot on the team we’d trade them to (see Fishman to Guelph).

We have one 2nd and two 3rds outside of the ‘24 picks. Together they’d bring one pretty decent piece.

Campbell and Ellinas hold some value, but we’d better be prepared to add picks to either to get decent return. Would have to be a significant upgrade on both or we may as well roll with them.

I agree. Acquiring two D has to be priority #1 just to get us back to where we were before the Hamara and Schmidt trades. As we’ve seen since those trades, it’ll be tough sledding with Campbell and Reid dressed at the same time on a deep playoff run.

MM will be in tough if the 07’s and ‘24 picks are off the table. Hard to win a bidding war when the other teams bidding can offer an extra 2nd without batting an eyelash.

 

[All the Answers]

Like Hamara and Schmidt?

You and I both know why these guys are gone, really no need to bring it up as neither could be the solution.

 

[Jives]

You and I both know why these guys are gone, really no need to bring it up as neither could be the solution.

And both of these players never played 1 game together this season. So replacing 1 of them with a good player is priority. I think the 2nd D we need to acquire can just be a depth 5/6 guy who isn’t going to break the bank.

 

[All the Answers]

Most in here and nearly everyone outside of Rangers land are completely unaware that this team has had a grand total of 6.5 games with a healthy/complete set of forwards. Kitchener is still ahead in GF by a margin. Get back Martin, hopefully Pozebel shows up, and there is no need to target anyone outside of perhaps a 3C that can win you some draws/pk. That won't cost much

This team needs a couple 2nd pairing quality D men IMO and that's about it. Don't upset the apple cart too much a la last year. Which teams in the West made the most/biggest moves last year, and which team won the west last year? I feel Kitchener is in a similar position.

 

[Krangers08]

Not trade related but it would be cool if the rangers did a behind the scenes series similar to Saginaw, Ottawa, and Chicago steel.

 

[Matttheleaf]

Jeff Marek has the Spirt being the likely landing spot for Owen Beck now.

 

[Krangers08]

Jeff Marek has the Spirt being the likely landing spot for Owen Beck now.

Makes sense. He had some say in the destination