Both had their rises stalled by injuries. Just because Glass has been unable to overcome his to this point is no kind of indictment on Dach.
Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal
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bishop12
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Romanov was nothing special. Habs fans suffer from Stockholm syndrom...convinced their mediocre pplayers are better than they really are
Tetragrammaton
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Poehling is better suited for the 2nd line left wing then the 4th line.
He’s good but he has limited offensive iq.
Dach’s potential is sky-high. In the WHL, his combination of strong skating, compete, and incredible vision is unlike anyone in recent memory. Unfortunately, he was only given the opportunity to show out for the Blackhawks’ first playoffs and his brutally short time as WJC captain. There has been very legit 80, 90, even 100 (in today’s NHL) point potential since he was drafted. The 13th overall pick - which has something like a 50% chance or smaller of even playing 200 NHL games, if my memory is not failing me - is simply a minuscule price to pay to take a shot on a (barely 21 year old) potentially franchise-changing talent.
Neither are going to amount to much especially as top 6 picks.
"potentially franchise-changing talent"- that's a friggin stretch
Habs Icing
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For the oldtimers on this board.
Dach reminds me of a faster Jean Ratelle who was a poor man's Jean Beliveau. It must be the way he holds his stick when he is stickhandling.
Then again maybe I'm scraping the bottom of the wishing well.
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These four guys combine for a total of 0 NHL games.
I've said this elsewhere, I love our D prospect pool but people forget every year that D prospects often simply don't pan out.
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I mean so did Romanov at one point.
Guhle is his most likely replacement. The others more suspect.
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He's an RFA and they probably think Guhle is a huge upgrade
jrom
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I think they won’t even qualify Pitlick since arbitration imposed contract could hurt them.
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I absolutely loved Romanov and will miss him quite a bit, and Lamoriello agreed with me it seems.
Dach stats leaves much to be desired and people have a right to be skeptical but to call him a 3rd liner at most or a bust seems a bit disingenuous.
But we have to give credit where credit is due, we had a GM who couldn't get a legit center via trade in 10 years because you just don't get these type of players..........
1 year in and our GM had the balls to make the move and get a 6 feet 4 right handed center they believe will be a core piece. This one can skate and be a puck possession piece they were mentioning initially about their ideal team. They clearly see something in him and he's a Hab now.
Dach stats leaves much to be desired and people have a right to be skeptical but to call him a 3rd liner at most or a bust seems a bit disingenuous.
But we have to give credit where credit is due, we had a GM who couldn't get a legit center via trade in 10 years because you just don't get these type of players..........
1 year in and our GM had the balls to make the move and get a 6 feet 4 right handed center they believe will be a core piece. This one can skate and be a puck possession piece they were mentioning initially about their ideal team. They clearly see something in him and he's a Hab now.
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I was actually thinking about his quality of opposition being lower with the Habs and not about his linemates. He had the highest quality of opposition among all of Chicago forwards last season based on frozentool app. That means he faced the toughest matchups despite being a lanky 21 years old who still have things to learn.
ya he was developing very well and has done a lot more than Dach has in the NHL. Habs are going to regret this one.
NORiculous
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Yeah you can see more then a couple lucky bounces in that clip…man that highlight video starts with a pass he completely lost that miraculously bounces off of his leg into the net
jrom
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It’s obvious MTL traded for him because they talked to their development team beforehand and they think they can put him back on track (it’s not just “oh well let’s hope it will work out).
Also Dach can and will play in the NHL next season. Enough posters were complaining about tanking, we needed a C that can play next year. Nazar may be great one day but he’s at least 2 years from playing in the NHL.
Also Dach can and will play in the NHL next season. Enough posters were complaining about tanking, we needed a C that can play next year. Nazar may be great one day but he’s at least 2 years from playing in the NHL.
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Gally 1st line....hahaha kill me now
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I know but in the end. The quality of his linemates is going to drop sharply, more so than his relative QoC in Mtl. So I'm not really convinced that it will translate in better opportunities for him.
jrom
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A year as 3C behind Suz & Dvorak is what he needs.
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and a clear role with some gritty wingers...
I say Gallagher plays with Dach and Juraj
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It absolutely will unless he busts. But what is a 6’4” center who produces 50-60 points worth? What is he doing down low to wear out opposing dmen? I don’t know how physical the guy is but that kind of size helps with one on one battles and possibly with home ice advantage help with matchups
Martin St-Louis was brought in for multiple reasons. One of them was to get the rookies going again, specially Caufield. We all know how instrumental he was in Caufield’s late-season success. We are learning more and more about the extent of Vincent Lecavalier's work with the team. Could he have played a factor in acquiring Kirby Dach? Does management think he can play a role in his progression?
Both stand at 6’4”, 200lbs. and both "elite" big body centers. Lecavalier was more skilled and had a terrific shot even in Junior. Could he help him with that? Can he help him become a Lecavalier light? Who else better than him and if not Martin St-Louis to help. I genuinely wonder if we will not see\hear Lecavalier getting a more significant role in player development.
Pacioretty was known for his passing skills during Junior\NCAA\AHL years and developed his deadly snipe late. Could Dach be influenced the same way? For all of our sake, I hope so lol.
Both stand at 6’4”, 200lbs. and both "elite" big body centers. Lecavalier was more skilled and had a terrific shot even in Junior. Could he help him with that? Can he help him become a Lecavalier light? Who else better than him and if not Martin St-Louis to help. I genuinely wonder if we will not see\hear Lecavalier getting a more significant role in player development.
Pacioretty was known for his passing skills during Junior\NCAA\AHL years and developed his deadly snipe late. Could Dach be influenced the same way? For all of our sake, I hope so lol.
ReimanSum1908
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Exactly the point that I've attempted to stress repeatedly. The defensive core of the future is utterly uncertain and the odds of Romanov becoming a number 3-4 rather than a 4-5 that he is are better than any one of the left defense prospects becoming a 4-5.
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