Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal part 2

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Completely disagree, especially about the comments on this thread, that's just a complete fabrication. Just look at how people were talking about him from January 2023 onwards. People were calling him a force, a beast, etc. Guy was developing very, very well here until a serious injury.

This is terribly revisionist and absolutely false.

I was being very sarcastic. I thought I was being obvious. My bad lol

 

[Andrei79]

I was being very sarcastic. I thought I was being obvious. My bad lol

Yeah, I'm an idiot. Carry on.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Yeah, I'm an idiot. Carry on.

Don’t talk about one of my fave posters like that!

 

[le_sean]

He was awful again

It’s not even worth repeating. At this point we should only post when he’s actually good in a game. Otherwise, we know he’s shit

 

[The Great Weal]

He was awful again

He was awesome in the 2nd period but did dick all in the 3rd again. He doesn't want it enough. Maybe he's too timid with his injury and is scared of getting injured again, but he won't have a long NHL career if he keeps playing this way.

 

[Victoire HuGo]

He was awesome in the 2nd period but did dick all in the 3rd again. He doesn't want it enough. Maybe he's too timid with his injury and is scared of getting injured again, but he won't have a long NHL career if he keeps playing this way.

Wasn't in the 3rd period where he charged at a guy and went for a big hit? Doesn't sound like a guy who's scared to me.

 

[Rapala]

He was awesome in the 2nd period but did dick all in the 3rd again. He doesn't want it enough. Maybe he's too timid with his injury and is scared of getting injured again, but he won't have a long NHL career if he keeps playing this way.

I thought he was very soft along the boards on one of Detroit's first period goals even though Hutson was the one who bobbled the puck initially.
This team will be much better when we can bail each other out. We've seen mistakes leading to more mistakes all season long for the most part.

 

[overlords]

He was awesome in the 2nd period but did dick all in the 3rd again. He doesn't want it enough. Maybe he's too timid with his injury and is scared of getting injured again, but he won't have a long NHL career if he keeps playing this way.

one awesome period out of 3 is way more than we were getting 20 games ago. if in another 20 we can count on 2/3, that wouldn't be so bad. The process sure isn't fun to watch, though and he's gonna really need to pump up the faceoff #s to at least the 40% mark to justify his role. I'm also hoping management gives him some strict dietary advice for the holidays

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I was being very sarcastic. I thought I was being obvious. My bad lol

It seemed like an odd statement for you to make considering I find you to be one of the more reasonable posters lol.

 

[Andrei79]

I thought he was very soft along the boards on one of Detroit's first period goals even though Hutson was the one who bobbled the puck initially.
This team will be much better when we can bail each other out. We've seen mistakes leading to more mistakes all season long for the most part.

Very good observation. I don't think it's an unwillingness though, I find it's a lack of experience. They just don't make the reads yet.

 

[Habby4Life]

Last three games habs have outscore their opponents 15 to 5
Dachs stat line those three games.
0g 0a -3 and 33% in the dot. Complete garbage.

 

[Subban signed e5]

Last three games habs have outscore their opponents 15 to 5
Dachs stat line those three games.
0g 0a -3 and 33% in the dot. Complete garbage.

I honestly don't think he played badly at all today. He has been super disappointing don't get me wrong but i thought he was decent. However the penalties really need to stop.

 

[FourQuarters]

I honestly don't think he played badly at all today. He has been super disappointing don't get me wrong but i thought he was decent. However the penalties really need to stop.

Penalties need to stop, but the battle along the board is a good sign. But I hope Marty plays Evans with laine, Kirby and laine don't have chemistry on the 5v5, and the ideal game is Kirby carry the puck then laine shoot happily, but now, the line is like, dmen pass the puck to laine who lost it or mishandled it, then Kirby or Newhook battle for it along the board.

 

[le_sean]

I honestly don't think he played badly at all today. He has been super disappointing don't get me wrong but i thought he was decent. However the penalties really need to stop.

He was again our worst forward. It’s an ongoing trend.

 

[Subban signed e5]

He was again our worst forward. It’s an ongoing trend.

He needs to be way better don't get me wrong. I did think that his overall compete and effort tonight was much better/noticeable than it has been. Did he play a good game, not really but I also don't think he was bad (The penalty was awful, not defending that).

 

[Paddyjack]

To think I wanted his babies last year

I'm not giving up on him, he may get his game back during the season, and next season will be the game breaker. But he plays scared methink.

 

[Zorro]

I'm losing complete faith in him, i get that his "still" young and he was hurt but he'll be 24 in a few weeks, and that's the age where he should be approaching his ceiling. For a lot (if not most) players mid-20s is the height of your career statistically.

 

[OldCraig71]

He has a blazing hot shooter on his line and tell me, during Laine's time with him, how many good passes has Dach delivered to him that led to a scoring chance?

All I see is Dach and Newhook in no man's land out there and Laine trying his best to play with them. We all know how many scoring chances PL would have had with Suzuki or even Evans for that matter.

The experiment needs to end, you can't just have a sniper playing with a center that never gets him the puck.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Do you forget what Colin White looked like for us last year? Dach is still playing well for an NHLer. Come on lol. Are people hyperfocusing on tiny details? Yes. But he's still making progress vs start of season.

White is actually a pretty good comparison for him this year

 

[Goalfield13]

Replace Dach and Newhook with Beck and Roy, and I guarantee you get better results.

 

[Sorinth]

Penalties need to stop, but the battle along the board is a good sign. But I hope Marty plays Evans with laine, Kirby and laine don't have chemistry on the 5v5, and the ideal game is Kirby carry the puck then laine shoot happily, but now, the line is like, dmen pass the puck to laine who lost it or mishandled it, then Kirby or Newhook battle for it along the board.

I'm not sure you can really justify breaking up either of the bottom six lines as they are giving us really good hockey and the team is winning more then ever.

Kind of sucks for Laine but keep in mind they've also been a bit unlucky 5 on 5, they have generated a number of quality chances that just haven't gone in. So I'd definetly give them more time as there has been progress and there's no urgency to shake things up beyond it kind of sucks for Laine to be with two very cold players.

 

[Goalfield13]

I'm not sure you can really justify breaking up either of the bottom six lines as they are giving us really good hockey and the team is winning more then ever.

Kind of sucks for Laine but keep in mind they've also been a bit unlucky 5 on 5, they have generated a number of quality chances that just haven't gone in. So I'd definetly give them more time as there has been progress and there's no urgency to shake things up beyond it kind of sucks for Laine to be with two very cold players.

It's fine now because we are beating up crap teams, but once the schedule gets harder, that line is going to be exposed badly.

 

[Tyson]

It's fine now because we are beating up crap teams, but once the schedule gets harder, that line is going to be exposed badly.

Eventually you have to put the team first

 

[Goalfield13]

Eventually you have to put the team first

The team should always come first at the NHL level. Players need to earn it.

 

[Tyson]

The team should always come first at the NHL level. Players need to earn it.

I totally totally agree! If Dach can't get his game going soon you have to look at other options. The problem is that the 1st, 3rd and 4th lines are all good so if for example you put Evans with Laine, what happens to Heineman and Armia?