Player Discussion Kirby Dach: Welcome to Montreal part 2

[Nashy]

It looks like his right knee got popped from the hit, hard to tell, because Tinordi blocks the view.

Hopefully a few weeks in the Hyperbaric Chamber and Dach's as good as new.

 

[The Great Weal]

Welcome to Montreal Celibrini/Eiserman

Knowing our luck those guys will have question marks around them and we draft someone else.

 

[Gustave]

That is not what knee replacement surgery is lol

But its no picnic no

My knee is done, tore a ACL and a bunch of arthritis in it… was offered to have a replacement… Maybe it was to correct everything at once, I won’t go further in my med assessments

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

My memory is pretty bad, but I seem to remember Wilkie could skate a bit before his knee injury. No hope after the injury.

He was always a terrible skater as far back as his Blazers/Pats days. He had a big shot and decent offensive instincts but his skating was awful and his defensive game was even worse. Basically a big, slow M.A Bergeron.

 

[calder candidate]

ACL tear is probably the worst outcome possible, MCL isn’t great new but he probably doesn’t even get operated if it is just the MCL… not sure why they sure all wear knee brace you can get customer carbon fiber one for like 2000$, same with football player what ever small % of performance you might lost you will gain x100 if you prevent a career ending injury…

 

[Yasuo]

I didn't do any of that but if karma was real, Chicago wouldn't have won 3 cups and been gifted Bedard after the disgusting shit they swept under the rug.

It's an unfortunate injury, that's it. No need for that esoteric nonsense.

You think i'm serious about this karma thing lol? Even if thats an ending year injury i'd do the trade 10/10. If next year he is injured again then i think it's a Tim Connoly 2.0

 

[Milhouse40]

This one sucks so so much.....Just drained a big chunk of the entire fun of this season.
Terrible news, just absolutely brutal short term and long term for the Habs, he was dominant, it seems like it was his year......Sucks

 

[jrom]

Welcome to Montreal Celibrini/Eiserman

If only, odds are OTT or CHI win the lottery

 

[JuJu Mobb]

Tabarnak.

Tabarnak.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

I was watching the play on loop earlier to try to figure out how it happened. Hard to tell if it’s the initial impact or when he extended his leg on the bench.

100% from the hit......you can't tear your ACL by extending it like that. I suspect that as his torso decelerated due to Dach being dragged on top of the boards while Tinordi kept moving at a slightly faster rate on the ice caused Dach's lower leg and foot to suppate as it was caught on the inside of Tinordi's thigh.

 

[Yasuo]

Knowing our luck those guys will have question marks around them and we draft someone else.

Eiserman maybe but when we pick if Celebrini is on the board i don't see how Kent Hughes would pass over him

 

[MarkJ]

Knowing our luck those guys will have question marks around them and we draft someone else.

a defenseman

 

[Spring in Fialta]

The right call.

It’s unfortunate because I think that line Newhook/Dach/Slaf seemed to have another gear and I think they were all about to have career years.

The silver lining of course is this could very well lead us to Celebrini/Eiserman. That is not a bad thing.

That's not a real silver lining. This is a big setback for the rebuild if he doesn't come back tip-top and ready to go, full stop.

 

[morhilane]

Dang.

Major setback for our rebuild.

The rebuild is still young so this isn't a setback for the team rebuild, hockey teams aren't defined by a single player despite what some people believe in here.

It is a setback for Dach thought.

 

[The Great Weal]

Eiserman maybe but when we pick if Celebrini is on the board i don't see how Kent Hughes would pass over him

Ya I thought the same about Wright. Guy was praised nonstop about his leadership and maturity yet he had a meh season and just seemed like he didn't care enough which is why we picked Slaf. Michkov was seen as a slam dunk easy pick but then geopolitical concerns came up. A lot can change.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

The rebuild is still young so this isn't a setback for the team rebuild, hockey teams aren't defined by a single player despite what some people believe in here.

It is a setback for Dach thought.

They were counting on him being a core member as a top-6 center and he was starting to show he was there. If that doesn't pan out, yeah, it's a clear setback for a rebuild where you have to take a chance on a 18 year-old to do it, while your two best forwards are 25 and 23.

People trying to see a silver lining from this because of draft order are completely off their rocker.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

Don't know why people are shocked about this. Dach was a risk since the beginning.

Oh well, guess we'll have a repeat of last season.

 

[Runner77]

I was watching the play on loop earlier to try to figure out how it happened. Hard to tell if it’s the initial impact or when he extended his leg on the bench.

I tried to isolate the hit and put it on slo-mo.

It's difficult to see the initial point of contact from this angle but Dach's left knee appears to be hit simultaneously with his upper body.

However, that initial contact may have been immaterial as Dach was seen favoring his right knee upon returning to the bench, which lends credence to the view that it was just a freak accident.

 

[morhilane]

They were counting on him being a core member as a top-6 center and he was starting to show he was there. If that doesn't pan out, yeah, it's a clear setback for a rebuild where you have to take a chance on a 18 year-old to do it, while your two best forwards are 25 and 23.

Hughes's new timeframe for the end of the rebuild, i.e. when they will focus on winning over developing, start with Suzuki at 30 years old...

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Hughes's new timeframe for the end of the rebuild, i.e. when they will focus on winning over developing, start with Suzuki at 30 years old...

I don't know where he said but that's a joke if he did and I very much like the work he's done so far.

NHL teams are way too static.

 

[McGees]

That Tinordi pick is the gift that keeps on giving.

 

[Runner77]

That Tinordi pick is the gift that keeps on giving.

Apparently, it was Grant the Moodsetter who scouted him.

 

[morhilane]

I don't know where he said but that's a joke if he did and I very much like the work he's done so far.

NHL teams are way too static.

Hughes apparently said it (3-4 years from now) on French radio (see this post: HF Habs: - The official 2023-2024 tank thread)

And looks like I made a mistake. I thought Suzuki was 25, but he's still 24, so 28-29 years old.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

That's not a real silver lining. This is a big setback for the rebuild if he doesn't come back tip-top and ready to go, full stop.

There’s no reason to believe he can’t recover from the injury, Markov did at 10years older than Dach.

The question and concern for me lies on whether or not this impacts his development. The other concern is that he seems very injury prone.

 

[Yasuo]

Ya I thought the same about Wright. Guy was praised nonstop about his leadership and maturity yet he had a meh season and just seemed like he didn't care enough which is why we picked Slaf. Michkov was seen as a slam dunk easy pick but then geopolitical concerns came up. A lot can change.

Yeah anything can happen but so far this year he has been has good as advertised.