Kiprusoff out of Olympics

[psycho_dad*]

I can't believe how Kipper is being flamed! I think it shows his character and desire for the cup if he is willing to put the cup over an olympic gold medal.

That's exactly why he is being flamed. You want the cup, we want the gold medal. Different interests. Not that I am flaming Kipper much, I just think he should have told the calgary organization that he will play in the olympics because that is his right. But more than Kipper I blame the flames for this, naturally it is their decicion, Kipper is just giving in too easy.

 

[Malurous]

Ouch! That hurts but we still got Kari on our squad *knocks on wood*. If and when Lehtonen is healthy he can carry the whole team on his back. Let's just wait and see...

Yes, provided that he's healthy AND the Thrashers let him go.

In addition to him, I feel both Niittymaki and Toivonen have the potential to get hot at the right time, but none of these guys is a sure bet. Finland really shot itself in the foot by not picking NHL goalies only, as the starter would have to be the hottest goalie coming to the Olympics. Now only two guys can battle it out, apparently Lehts and Niittymaki. I wonder if the staff is proud if, come February, Lehtonen hasn't found his game, Esche gets the playing time ahead of Niittymaki and Toivonen is riding high...

 

[Phanuthier*]

That's exactly why he is being flamed. You want the cup, we want the gold medal. Different interests. Not that I am flaming Kipper much, I just think he should have told the calgary organization that he will play in the olympics because that is his right. But more than Kipper I blame the flames for this, naturally it is their decicion, Kipper is just giving in too easy.

Why?

Where is your evidence that the Flames told him he can't go to the Olympics?

Or is that only your theory?

I agree its very much possible the Flames did... but I think it was in Kiprusoff's mind already. If the Flames did tell Kiprusoff to sit out, I doubt it was more then 1% that affected his position.

 

[Dogbert*]

That's exactly why he is being flamed. You want the cup, we want the gold medal. Different interests. Not that I am flaming Kipper much, I just think he should have told the calgary organization that he will play in the olympics because that is his right. But more than Kipper I blame the flames for this, naturally it is their decicion, Kipper is just giving in too easy.

Did you honestly expect the Flames to put Team Finland's interests ahead of their own?

 

[Claypool_*]

Stupid Mario Lemieux / Steve Yzerman, what bunch of classless pricks.

Mario Lemieux sat out basically the entire 03-04 season just to play in the world cup over the summer. Don't open your mouth again.

 

[Phanuthier*]

Mario Lemieux sat out basically the entire 03-04 season just to play in the world cup over the summer. Don't open your mouth again.

Whatever

Apperently, some people don't know what sarcasm is.

 

[P-M Bouchard]

If Martin Brodeur would play for the Flames, and had an inflammation
of the hip,he wouldnt be prevented to play for his country.

 

[Malurous]

I agree its very much possible the Flames did... but I think it was in Kiprusoff's mind already. If the Flames did tell Kiprusoff to sit out, I doubt it was more then 1% that affected his position.

I believe that is what both I and psycho_dad have been saying all along. Although he blames the Flames (nice rhyme) which I don't do, since I find it obvious that, with some exaggeration, Kipper just doesn't give a damn about representing his country.

However, Kipper did not know of this on Tuesday, so I find it easy to suggest that Sutter has given him a "gentle tip" later than that. So, the reason to think that it's the Flames' fault would be that even though he's a guy who'll only need that nudge to his decision making to skip the Olympics, what if he never got the nudge?

 

[SwisshockeyAcademy]

If Kipper was hell bent on playing in these Olympics you can bet he would be there. Nobody could stand in his way. He would have to answer to his family( the Flames ) if he was unable to carry them down the stretch. The Finnish national team , while important , is not the team he hangs with and battles with every day. He is putting club over country and either way you cannot fault a person's decision - but it is what it is- It is HIS decision no matter what Psycho Finn says.

 

[Phanuthier*]

However, Kipper did not know of this on Tuesday, so I find it easy to suggest that Sutter has given him a "gentle tip" later than that.

In the 3rd period yesterday, Kiprusoff gave up 3 goals... ontop of giving up 5 on Monday. You don't think its possible he got injured yesterday or reaggrivated an injury yesterday?

 

[Malurous]

In the 3rd period yesterday, Kiprusoff gave up 3 goals... ontop of giving up 5 on Monday. You don't think its possible he got injured yesterday or reaggrivated an injury yesterday?

Yes, I do. I'm definitely not suggesting that he's lying about an injury, I'm sure he is injured if they say so. However, as the injury has been classified as "minor" or "mild", that should not jeopardize his Olympic games.

That said, I think it's a case of Kipper not wanting to go - if he really wanted to, he could play there in a few months if he can play for the Flames now - and even though I seem to find myself siding with the Finnish cause here, I don't have a big problem with his decision. The publicized reason, however, seems ridiculous.

 

[guzzy]

"inflammation of the hip"

I am curious...how can he continue playing for Calgary before the games, but he can not play for Finland in the olympics? Is the correct treatment for inflammation of the hip playing pro hockey for 1 and a half months and then take a 2 weeks off?

What sort of inflammation of the hip takes so long to heal that he would not be healthy when olympics start? And shouldn't he then rest his inflammated hip starting today...till it's fine.

Thank you Calgary flames.

It is probably a bothersome injury that provides discomfort more than anything. He can play with it but he needs some rest for it to actually go away....hence the Olympics. What is more important? Stanley or Gold?

 

[guzzy]

I hope that Galgary won´t make it to the playoffs. F*** u Sutter.

Ya blame Sutter.

There is a brave man

Grow up

 

[guzzy]

Different scenario. They both came out themselves saying they wont play because it would not help the team. Kipper however is the best player in the team so he cant use that excuse. Team Finland informed the players who were selected that they are on the team, I believe this happened tuesday. If Kipper would have said he will not play, they would not have announced him today (they would not have wasted that roster spot, and that one change). Once he got announced, people in Calgary woke up and decided that he should not play, and here we are. Simple as that. And yes, that makes some people, especially us Finns quite mad at the flames organization. If he would be injured so badly, that it will not heal in nearly 2 months, he would not keep playing for the flames. What kind of inflammation is treated by nearly 2 months of professional hockey and a two week vacation at the end?

wow you know everything. Do you have an insider there? Wow i want to be just like you. I want to criticize management of teams because I THINK they may have made a decision to prolong a players season or shelf life.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe he just injured his hip last night and it's a little sore and maybe it will get worse if he keeps playing on it. Maybe he is looking out for his fellow teammates (countrymates) and giving someone else a chance to step up because he might not be able to make it. I wish I had all the answers like you do. Life would be much easier.

 

[guzzy]

That's exactly why he is being flamed. You want the cup, we want the gold medal. Different interests. Not that I am flaming Kipper much, I just think he should have told the calgary organization that he will play in the olympics because that is his right. But more than Kipper I blame the flames for this, naturally it is their decicion, Kipper is just giving in too easy.

of course it is their decision. You really do know everything. Are you a Sutter. Are you Preston's cousin?

 

[rye&ginger]

I can't believe how Kipper is being flamed! I think it shows his character and desire for the cup if he is willing to put the cup over an olympic gold medal.

A true competitor would want both.

So now the NHL knows Kipper is playing hurt, and an extra bump may just Donnovan McNabb him.

 

[Raipe]

I think Kipprusoft is overrated .He only plays good under flames boring shutdown system.

Lehtonen is 67times better than kiprusoft good for finland.

 

[ThinMcWhistle]

Good. That takes Finland out of the running, barring a miracle.

 

[Phanuthier*]

I think Kipprusoft is overrated .He only plays good under flames boring shutdown system.

Lehtonen is 67times better than kiprusoft good for finland.

So I guess we can say that Kiprusoff was only doing his country a service by withdrawing from the tournament, then?

What a classy move by Kipper

 

[ThinMcWhistle]

I think Kipprusoft is overrated .He only plays good under flames boring shutdown system.

Lehtonen is 67times better than kiprusoft good for finland.

I tend to agree with you on this one..

Let's not forget.... Kipper has already choked twice. Once for the flames and once for Finland. AND DON'T TRY TO TELL ME HE HASN'T, cuz I've already had this discussion enough times.

 

[Owen]

Hmmm.... is this his decision or Sutter's?

Likely his... say what you will about his "injury" but Kiprusoff passed on the '02 Olympics after being named a starter because he felt taking time off to rest for the NHL grind back when he was in San Jose was more important to him. So this news shouldn't be surprising at all.

It's a pretty safe bet that his replacement will be Markkanen or Toskala. And say what you will about Finland having "no chance" but Norrena is an excellent goalie.

 

[TK79]

One thing that i'm curious about is why Kipper didn't inform Finnish coach Erkka Westerlund about the injury and exclude himself from the list of potentional candidates? Now he made the coach look stupid by withdrawing himself a day after the selections.. And if he's injured then why the hell is Sutter playing him in every game (including two nights in a row week) if he's injured and the Flames have also been successful with Sauve in net. I agree that if Brodeur or Luongo was playing for the Flames, no way would the Flames have told him to withdraw..

 

[RorschachWJK]

I can't believe how Kipper is being flamed! I think it shows his character and desire for the cup if he is willing to put the cup over an olympic gold medal.

There are lots of people who feel that an Olympic gold medal far outweighs any league achievements, NHL or other.

 

[ThinMcWhistle]

There are lots of people who feel that an Olympic gold medal far outweighs any league achievements, NHL or other.

Hey man, are you back in Finland now?

 

[Mr Kanadensisk]

A gold medal is certainly worth more than the NHL regular season. Calgary is going to make the playoffs, and if Kipper needs a rest he should take a few games off before Turin. Playing in a huge event like the Olympics does more for hockey, and the NHL, than playing a few more regular season games for the Flames.
Betman wants them to go, and Kipper should go!