Kiprusoff out of Olympics

[guzzy]

Patrick Roy said no to Canada in 2002. There are some similarities although the posts here about Kipper seem to be even more venemous.

No Gretzky told Roy he would be lucky if he warms the pine or even gets suited up for 2002 and gave him the option of making a statement pulling himself out. Greztky was going with Brodeur come hell or highwater.....no questions asked.

 

[guzzy]

Miikka Kiprusoff´s agent Petteri Lehto told to the Finnish Broadcasting Company(Yle),that it was Calgarys decision to leave Miikka out of Olympics.

If you're going to post stuff like this then include a link.

DOn't start spreading rumours.

 

[Phanuthier*]

Take the break NOW, let the injury heal and play the olympics if ready. Don't wait for 2 months before healing the injury.

Now why would he do that?

If you were a construction worker, and got a nagging injury, would you ask your boss if you can take some time off so you can heal for a ski trip next month? Maybe not exactly the same, but remember... Kiprusoff is paid $3.5 million by the Calgary Flames to be a No 1 goalie and play lots of games there. The Calgary Flames are his career... playing for Finland is not.

 

[guzzy]

True but the similarity is the fact they both could have played if they wanted to. If Kipper wanted to play he would be playing. He does not seem to want it bad enough and perhaps made a knee jerk reaction after his bad game against LA.

Roy would have needed a miracle to play in 2002. He knew Gretzky was going with Brodeur or Joseph and given the option to play 2nd or 3rd or go home. Roy is one of the most egotistical goalies ever and he couldn't swallow his pride so he made his statement.

 

[gib]

If you're going to post stuff like this then include a link.

DOn't start spreading rumours.

I did watch the same sport news show as Mestarin Malja. He`s not spreading rumous.

Don`t worry link will be here, maybe not today but at least tomorrow. (It`s kinda late here in Finland)

 

[P-M Bouchard]

If you're going to post stuff like this then include a link.

DOn't start spreading rumours.

Here´s the story but on finnish:
www.yle.fi/urheilu/mediasali/index.html
"Kiprusoff jäi pois Torinosta"

 

[Phanuthier*]

http://www.calgarysun.com/Sports/Hockey/2005/12/23/1365886-sun.html

Here you whiners go:

He has been taking more and more time after games for treatment over the past few weeks, signs he's been trying to play through the injury. However, it's obvious the injury is worrisome enough for Kiprusoff, in the first season of a three-year, $10-million US contract, to make what will be an unpopular decision in his homeland.

 

[sehnsucht]

from calgarypuck:

Kiprusoff's hip problem sounds like it might be due to something other than an injury during the course of a game. ...Osteoarthritis of the Hip, Piriformis Syndrome, hip bursitis....something along those lines..(nothing that will really affect his performance provided he follows his doctor's guidelines)
Is there any possibility that Kiprusoff is bowing out graciously now so that he can take medication for his condition that might breach the Olympic guidelines?
Corticosteroids, aspirin, ibuprofen, and countless other related remedies are usually prescribed to deal with inflamations and infections of body joints, along with a combination of exercise and rest.
I'm sure these medications can easily relieve the pain and remove any inflammations or infections, but Kiprusoff and his medical advisors could have concerns that the condition might linger, and require medication through the time period of the Olympics.

 

[Phanuthier*]

from calgarypuck:

that anti-christ a-hole!

 

[Pepper]

Simple: The Flames doctors have said that he can continue to play, and play a lot despite the injury. If they suggested otherwise, the situation would change.

So the doctors know that Kipper can play for 2 months while eating painkillers and only then he has to rest to heal the injury?

Pardon me if your reasoning sounds totally ridiculous.

 

[Phanuthier*]

Here's more:

''Kiprusoff's withdrawal was a surprise,'' Finland GM Jari Kurri said Friday. ''We knew already by early fall about Kiprusoff's inflammation of the hip, but we thought that he could be nominated for the Olympic assignment.
''We were aware of his problems,'' added Kurri. ''We discussed it with him several times during the fall. Naturally, Kiprusoff is worried about his hip inflammation and worried about his future career, but we agreed that he would be nominated. Then we would wait and see and take a final decision just before the Olympics.''

http://www.tsn.ca/olympics/news_story.asp?ID=148085&hubName=olympics

 

[Phanuthier*]

So the doctors know that Kipper can play for 2 months while eating painkillers and only then he has to rest to heal the injury?

Pardon me if your reasoning sounds totally ridiculous.

You don't know the first thing about Kiprusoff's dedication to his career. And I bet you didn't know that Kiprusoff spends hours before morning practise stretching, stretches for another couple hours after practise, another 3 hours of stretching before a hockey game, and another 3 hours of stretching after a game.

Pardon me if your ignorance sounds totally rediculous

 

[Pepper]

Now why would he do that?

If you were a construction worker, and got a nagging injury, would you ask your boss if you can take some time off so you can heal for a ski trip next month? Maybe not exactly the same, but remember... Kiprusoff is paid $3.5 million by the Calgary Flames to be a No 1 goalie and play lots of games there. The Calgary Flames are his career... playing for Finland is not.

Your analogy is way off.

The consruction worker must take a break to heal his injuries NOW in order to be healthy for the most important phase of the constrution project which takes place in april, he doesn't do that and risks not only missing the skiing trip but also the most imporant phase of the project.

 

[espo*]

I'll just say one thing.I've beeen hearing from other sources that the calgary flames put the prsssure on him not to attend.While that may or may not be true what is true(at least i think) is that he still has the perogative to tell anyone,management or not.................to go f themselves.And that's exactly what i'd do in his position unless the injury is seriousely affecting his game and ability to help his team win(Team Finland) Other then that,if he refuses..........................ya gotta look at Mikka not anyone else and i think most people around here should get that.

 

[Pepper]

You don't know the first thing about Kiprusoff's dedication to his career. And I bet you didn't know that Kiprusoff spends hours before morning practise stretching, stretches for another couple hours after practise, another 3 hours of stretching before a hockey game, and another 3 hours of stretching after a game.

Pardon me if your ignorance sounds totally rediculous

Chances are I know much, much more about Kipper's dedication to the game than you can even dream of, let's face it, 99% of you Flames fans didn't even know who he was before he was traded to Flames. I've been following his career for YEARS.

So pardon me if your claims of me being ignorant sound more ridiculous than anything so far in this thread.

 

[Phanuthier*]

More info:

There are startling similarities between the two situations on several levels, beginning with the injury front. Kiprusoff, the Calgary Flames' No. 1 goalie, is playing with a nagging hip injury that doctors tell him will not go away until he stops playing. He doesn't want to do that in the middle of the NHL schedule, because his presence in goal is the single biggest reason Calgary is competitive most nights (how else to explain the fact that the Flames are 29th overall offensively, but in the race for top spot in the Northwest Division?) Kiprusoff is getting the hip treated after every game and practice, which is why he's almost never available for interviews these days so that he can play with some level of comfort. So why didn't Kiprusoff notify the Finns ahead of time of his decision? Turns out he did. Kiprusoff spoke to Finland's national coach, Erkka Westerlund, when the Flames were in Nashville; and then talked to him again on the phone prior to the roster announcement. Kiprusoff figured they'd keep him off the team. Instead, the Finns named him anyway, in the hopes that the injury does clear up on its own by February and that he would be available. Nor did Kiprusoff get any pressure from his NHL team to make the decision, according to sources with knowledge of the situation.

 

[Phanuthier*]

The consruction worker must take a break to heal his injuries NOW in order to be healthy for the most important phase of the constrution project which takes place in april, he doesn't do that and risks not only missing the skiing trip but also the most imporant phase of the project.

Well for a summer job, I worked in a shop and one of the employe's broke his finger, but was not allowed time off... even when his doctor recommended him to take some time off.

 

[Phanuthier*]

Chances are I know much, much more about Kipper's dedication to the game than you can even dream of, let's face it, 99% of you Flames fans didn't even know who he was before he was traded to Flames. I've been following his career for YEARS.

So pardon me if your claims of me being ignorant sound more ridiculous than anything so far in this thread.

Thanks for showing even more of your ignorance

I knew about Kiprusoff long before he even played for SJ. I first heard of his name the year Nabokov won the Calder, when John Davidson said there was actually a goalie in the SJ organization that is better then Nabokov, and Kiprusoff may just be the best goalie not in the NHL... and at that time, I think Luongo was either in junior or the minors.

But thanks for coming out

 

[SwisshockeyAcademy]

I'll just say one thing.I've beeen hearing from other sources that the calgary flames put the prsssure on him not to attend.While that may or may not be true what is true(at least i think) is that he still has the perogative to tell anyone,management or not.................to go f themselves.And that's exactly what i'd do in his position unless the injury is seriousely affecting his game and ability to help his team win(Team Finland) Other then that,if he refuses..........................ya gotta look at Mikka not anyone else and i think most people around here should get that.

Not sure you should be injecting logic into the thread, its gotten this far without it for the most part.

 

[Pepper]

Well for a summer job, I worked in a shop and one of the employe's broke his finger, but was not allowed time off... even when his doctor recommended him to take some time off.

I don't know about the canadian law but over here if doctor orders you to take a rest to heal an injury/sickness etc. there's absolutely nothing your employer can do about that, in fact if they order you back to work they will get stiff fines for it.

 

[P-M Bouchard]

While that may or may not be true what is true(at least i think) is that he still has the perogative to tell anyone,management or not.................to go f themselves.And that's exactly what i'd do in his position unless the injury is seriousely affecting his game and ability to help his team win(Team Finland)

Someone like Hasek would do it.

 

[Pepper]

Thanks for showing even more of your ignorance

I knew about Kiprusoff long before he even played for SJ. I first heard of his name the year Nabokov won the Calder, when John Davidson said there was actually a goalie in the SJ organization that is better then Nabokov, and Kiprusoff may just be the best goalie not in the NHL... and at that time, I think Luongo was either in junior or the minors.

But thanks for coming out

Yes, you first heard about him when somebody in TV mentioned his name. Well guess what, I've been following this guy's career since 1995 when he first started as a back-up in FEL.

So I think it's pretty obvious which one of us knows more about Kipper

 

[gobolt7]

I think we are done here.