Kingston Frontenacs 2024 25 Season Thread Part Iii

[leafs4life94]

For a team who's biggest strength was supposed to be their depth, they've really only had two lines show up at all - and not having a second scoring line has been an issue.

Almost half, 16/36, of their goals have been scored by the Guindon line, with another 8 by the Heyes line. The Heyes lines' main job isn't goal scoring so as far as I'm concerned getting almost a goal per game from them is huge. Add in an unexpected 9 from the D - that leaves only three "depth" goals left, one from Willis and two from Soto (though one of Soto's was a PPG).

Schenkel proved why they traded for him last night and this team better show up for him today

 

[beastintheeast]

For a team who's biggest strength was supposed to be their depth, they've really only had two lines show up at all - and not having a second scoring line has been an issue.

Almost half, 16/36, of their goals have been scored by the Guindon line, with another 8 by the Heyes line. The Heyes lines' main job isn't goal scoring so as far as I'm concerned getting almost a goal per game from them is huge. Add in an unexpected 9 from the D - that leaves only three "depth" goals left, one from Willis and two from Soto (though one of Soto's was a PPG).

Schenkel proved why they traded for him last night and this team better show up for him today

The goal of the 2nd line is to chip in but also I think with this team to cut down the other teams topline.

Windsor has a hot first line that is playing well.

I don't think there has ever been anyone that said there was depth on scoring with this team. It had realtive depth with defence but I have a feeling at some that are playing are laying hurt and of coure McGowan out hurts.

 

[MeafAttack]

For a guy supposed to go top 10 or 15 in the draft he has less points and the same amount of goals as Gage Heyes

He has not blown me away this series at all. just shot the puck from the point, Schenkel was screened and it went in. then the celebration like he won the Stanley cup game 7 double OT when it’s just game 5 to put them up 3-2.

Again. Just my opinion. I’d expect Barrie fans to think differently and we’re all entitled to our opinions.

Just stop already.If how many points he has in this series is your measuring tool than you make yourself look bad. He eats up around 30 mins a game and ask some of your forwards how hard he plays the body.
The kid is a difference maker and if you don't see that then it's on you. Really don't think you'll convince anyone on here otherwise.

 

[leafs4life94]

The goal of the 2nd line is to chip in but also I think with this team to cut down the other teams topline.

Windsor has a hot first line that is playing well.

I don't think there has ever been anyone that said there was depth on scoring with this team. It had realtive depth with defence but I have a feeling at some that are playing are laying hurt and of coure McGowan out hurts.

The Heyes line is the shutdown/energy line. Kingston doesn't have the crazy high end guys that Brantford, Oshawa, Windsor have but they had the second most 20 goal scorers in the league behind London (tied with Barrie but Aitcheson is one of them - not forward depth).

Even someone that doesn't watch the games and just looks at stats should be able to see that yes, Kingston's forward depth should have been a strong point.

 

[ScoutLife4]

Aitcheson just has that ability to win games in clutch situations.
He has done it all year - Can't take that away from him he makes smart plays at the point to wait for a screen and gets the puck to the net. The vision on the kid is one of his best attributes but i know people get distracted by his psychical edge he plays with and don't recognize it.

One positive is Charlie showed up last night and gave them the chance to win.
Should be a great game tonight in Kingston.

 

[PuckLucker]

The goal of the 2nd line is to chip in but also I think with this team to cut down the other teams topline.

Windsor has a hot first line that is playing well.

I don't think there has ever been anyone that said there was depth on scoring with this team. It had realtive depth with defence but I have a feeling at some that are playing are laying hurt and of coure McGowan out hurts.

Both Windsor & Brantford had (past tense) hot first lines.
Losing Greentree & Lardis affects a teams ability to win especially when they are on the ice for 25 mins and are taking 7-10 shots per game

 

[beastintheeast]

The Heyes line is the shutdown/energy line. Kingston doesn't have the crazy high end guys that Brantford, Oshawa, Windsor have but they had the second most 20 goal scorers in the league behind London (tied with Barrie but Aitcheson is one of them - not forward depth).

Even someone that doesn't watch the games and just looks at stats should be able to see that yes, Kingston's forward depth should have been a strong point.

Inever said it was not a good 2nd line it is but as you said it is a shut down energy line. Durint eh playoffs it is more importnt to have them playing shutdown so that they llimit the oppositions first line. If they can be even or 1-2 plus as a line against the other teams topline they have done well.

 

[beastintheeast]

Both Windsor & Brantford had (past tense) hot first lines.
Losing Greentree & Lardis affects a teams ability to win especially when they are on the ice for 25 mins and are taking 7-10 shots per game

yeah you can see that in the way the teams are playing.

I think it is going to be Oshawa London in the final although the tems in the east are fairly even

 

[leafs4life94]

Inever said it was not a good 2nd line it is but as you said it is a shut down energy line. Durint eh playoffs it is more importnt to have them playing shutdown so that they llimit the oppositions first line. If they can be even or 1-2 plus as a line against the other teams topline they have done well.

The Heyes line isn't meant to be their second line though. If that's what you're saying then yes the offense we've gotten from has been unexpected has been nice.

The issue is Willis, Hopkins and either Soto/Miedema combining for 3 goals in 9 games, and one of the was Soto on PP1.

2 ES goals is flat out not enough.

 

[PuckLucker]

For a team who's biggest strength was supposed to be their depth, they've really only had two lines show up at all - and not having a second scoring line has been an issue.

Almost half, 16/36, of their goals have been scored by the Guindon line, with another 8 by the Heyes line. The Heyes lines' main job isn't goal scoring so as far as I'm concerned getting almost a goal per game from them is huge. Add in an unexpected 9 from the D - that leaves only three "depth" goals left, one from Willis and two from Soto (though one of Soto's was a PPG).

Schenkel proved why they traded for him last night and this team better show up for him today

Agreed that the heavy load for scoring has been on the first 2 lines.
Biggest frustration for me has been special teams which were great during the regular season and pathetic in playoffs with almost zero changes by head coach.
Keep lines the same for game #6 and put best foot forward and go Fronts.

 

[PuckLucker]

The Heyes line isn't meant to be their second line though. If that's what you're saying then yes the offense we've gotten from has been unexpected has been nice.

The issue is Willis, Hopkins and either Soto/Miedema combining for 3 goals in 9 games, and one of the was Soto on PP1.

2 ES goals is flat out not enough.

Sometimes trades don't work as you had planned and new players don't mesh well.
I've noticed a difference in quality of play since 2 Fronts players signed their ELC's.

#91 0G - 4A 31 shots
#15 1G - 0A 9 shots
#14 1G - 2A 29 shots
#92 2 G - 0A 10 shots

10 pts in 9 games for these 4 players is definitely not enough.

 

[dirty12]

yeah you can see that in the way the teams are playing.

I think it is going to be Oshawa London in the final although the tems in the east are fairly even

The former NB line is almost always a plus. Jelsma-Gardner-Patterson is about as good as a L3 gets, same for the colts defence corps and goaltending. If Beaudoin-Hemming can repeat their play of last night consistently, I think Barrie represents the east in the league final.

 

[Jimmy582]

For a guy supposed to go top 10 or 15 in the draft he has less points and the same amount of goals as Gage Heyes

He has not blown me away this series at all. just shot the puck from the point, Schenkel was screened and it went in. then the celebration like he won the Stanley cup game 7 double OT when it’s just game 5 to put them up 3-2.

Again. Just my opinion. I’d expect Barrie fans to think differently and we’re all entitled to our opinions.

Hayes sits in the slot on the first pp unit Aitcheson plays the second unit for pp and plays every shift vs the top line of Kingston his job isn’t just scoring it’s playing defence aswell as he’s a 2 way defender not every d man games gonna be Parekh like

 

[beastintheeast]

Miedema is not doing himself any favours when you consider that he is still trying to make teh Sabres look at him.

Correct me if I am wrong but have not him and Soto been sort of streaky all year.

I look forward to Hopkins and battaglia on the same line next year

I still think if the efence matures this team could surprise peole tha think it is going to be weak.

 

[ScoutLife4]

Miedema is not doing himself any favours when you consider that he is still trying to make teh Sabres look at him.

Correct me if I am wrong but have not him and Soto been sort of streaky all year.

I look forward to Hopkins and battaglia on the same line next year

I still think if the efence matures this team could surprise peole tha think it is going to be weak.

One of the few times I agree with you but yes Soto and Miedema have regressed in my opinion.
Both have been burried down in the lineup often due to it too.
I really don’t see the Sabres giving him a contract. It will be interesting to see what his options are for next year.
Soto is a player the fronts may have to walk away from as there won’t be much there in terms of trade value and I don’t see burning a spot on him with the surplus of OA’S they have to select from.

 

[frontsfan67]

Ya I said some stuff on here after game was pretty mad. Not a huge fan of the goal. My bad. Wanted a different outcome.

Game 6 tonight hopefully some more of the arena fills up not looking like a great crowd as expected for Easter sunday. Schenkel had an amazing game last night. Unfortunately I don’t see him recreating that performance but I would love to be proven wrong.

 

[BobbyStokers9713]

The former NB line is almost always a plus. Jelsma-Gardner-Patterson is about as good as a L3 gets, same for the colts defence corps and goaltending. If Beaudoin-Hemming can repeat their play of last night consistently, I think Barrie represents the east in the league final.

if it is Brantford that gets through, Barrie will 100% progress to the final. Way to much depth for a thin bulldogs team especially without lardis. If it is oshawa I would lean generals however this barrie team has not lost on home ice in the playoffs.

 

[dirty12]

One of the few times I agree with you but yes Soto and Miedema have regressed in my opinion.
Both have been burried down in the lineup often due to it too.
I really don’t see the Sabres giving him a contract. It will be interesting to see what his options are for next year.
Soto is a player the fronts may have to walk away from as there won’t be much there in terms of trade value and I don’t see burning a spot on him with the surplus of OA’S they have to select from.

If not Soto, who plays RW in the Frontenacs top six next season?
Miedema and NB seem like a match.

 

[panarinsbread2]

I don’t if it’s just me but I’d like to see Landon Wright draw in to the lineup at some point

 

[Hokky]

I find it strange that people whine about whether a rink is full or not. This is Easter Sunday and family is way more important than junior hockey

 

[ottsabrefan]

Sad that the city can’t even fill the rink for game 6 of a playoff game.

It was full last game. It is Easter.

 

[frontsfan67]

Sad that the city can’t even fill the rink for game 6 of a playoff game.

Good troll. Easter Sunday and game 1 of the battle of Ontario same time and day.

Last game had 5400.

 

[frontsfan67]

I find it strange that people whine about whether a rink is full or not. This is Easter Sunday and family is way more important than junior hockey

Lots of things to think about when your team has been out for almost a month

 

[beastintheeast]

GREAT GAME

Looksl ike player inuries are olayng a big part of the playoffs

Tuesday should be interesting

Is it me or did Hopkins not even seem to be playing I don't think I heard his name mentioned by Gilchrist

 

[windsor7]

Rangers wanted it more.
1 game to decide it now