Kingston Frontenacs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part I

[dirty12]

Why would Kingston not be able to decide between making a championship run next year via this year?

The fact that they traded away Thibodeau and Franca for picks should tell you they’re already made their decision.

A look at what Barrie, Brampton, and Niagara return compared to Kingston should tell you it will be no easier for Kingston next season. I think Brampton and Niagara should be better next season.

 

[PuckLucker]

Let’s take a deeper look beyond just the number.

Ben Pickell was picked off the scrap heap this year and he won’t be missed in the slightest. A back up goalie like Vaccari is easily replaceable. Little Cal Uens also won’t be a significant loss.

Three of them will be back as OAs - - Soto and McGowan are near certainties to return and they’ll be very good OAs. Uronen still hasn’t been signed yet and I’d say it’s a 50/50 chance that he’s back as the third OA. Failing that, McNamara would be the third OA, but I’d look to move him this year because there’ll be better OAs available to be had next year.

That leaves three significant losses: Burns, Pieniniemi and Miedema.

Here’s the issue for Kingston - - none of those three compare to the level of Cal Ritchie, Easton Cowan, Carson Rehkopf, Denver Barkey or Oliver Bonk. They’re nowhere close to the talent that’s needed from 19yr olds on a championship contender.

This is one of those “difficult” decisions teams have to make between setting themselves up for sustained future success or wasting what they have by trying to make a delusional run.

Very similar to the decision London had to make with Robert Thomas. Obviously none of the aforementioned three are remotely comparable to Thomas, but dealing at least two of them would amount to a similar net return. London made the correct decision and that’s why they’re the CHL’s model franchise.

The delusional run already took place with the same staff and most of the core players last season when they added at the trade deadline and the team was in 7th place and chose not to move Ludwindski.
(BTW - Ludwinski has played 11 AHL games for Rockford and has 1 assist)

I agree with everything you are saying regarding the situation Kingston is in (minus Barkey being considered an elite 19 yo). 16 pts in 16 games with 9 pts being on the PP

I have a gut feeling that they will push and make additions for a couple of reasons:
- Roster is loaded with 19 yo
- Coach only trusts older players
- Available draft picks to use after moving Thibadeau & Frasca

Giving the A to #9 locks him in as an OA for this season and the Fronts staff will stay loyal. He stands to have more points this year then all 3 previous years combined from playing on a decent line.
My bet is they target an 18/19 year old Fwd that they know will be around both this year and next.
- Luchanko
- Romani
- Procyszyn

 

[zaluty]

Enough speculation make a trade lol.

 

[leafs4life94]

Let’s take a deeper look beyond just the number.

Ben Pickell was picked off the scrap heap this year and he won’t be missed in the slightest. A back up goalie like Vaccari is easily replaceable. Little Cal Uens also won’t be a significant loss.

Three of them will be back as OAs - - Soto and McGowan are near certainties to return and they’ll be very good OAs. Uronen still hasn’t been signed yet and I’d say it’s a 50/50 chance that he’s back as the third OA. Failing that, McNamara would be the third OA, but I’d look to move him this year because there’ll be better OAs available to be had next year.

That leaves three significant losses: Burns, Pieniniemi and Miedema.

Here’s the issue for Kingston - - none of those three compare to the level of Cal Ritchie, Easton Cowan, Carson Rehkopf, Denver Barkey or Oliver Bonk. They’re nowhere close to the talent that’s needed from 19yr olds on a championship contender.

This is one of those “difficult” decisions teams have to make between setting themselves up for sustained future success or wasting what they have by trying to make a delusional run.

Very similar to the decision London had to make with Robert Thomas. Obviously none of the aforementioned three are remotely comparable to Thomas, but dealing at least two of them would amount to a similar net return. London made the correct decision and that’s why they’re the CHL’s model franchise.

The issue is the sheer volume of players they have to replace. They'll be losing 3 D including their top 2, one if not both goalies (I wouldn't be surprised if they keep Vaccari around to start the year), and 5-6 of their top 9.

They have 3 '06s on the entire roster, with one being a 4th liner. They have 4 '07s on the roster, with only Hopkins being a true contributor. They have 4 signed '08 forwards who will be thrust into roles they may not be ready for. They'll have 2 1st rounders but you can't rely on 16 year olds to contribute.

Having 3 higher end OAs doesn't make up for the sheer lack of depth they'll have next year.

I don't see why Uronen would be back as an OA - why play for nothing here when he could go home and play pro. There's a much better chance Miedema is back.

Kingston going for it next year makes absolutely no sense, never has and never will.

 

[frontsfan67]

WAY too early Fronts Projected roster 2025-2026


Forwards:

1 Battaglia | Hopkins | Soto OA

2 Buttar | Dervin*/Import | Kelly/Weir

3 Clark/Shewfelt | FRP/Import/McCuaig | Kelly/Weir

4 Shewfelt/Clark | FRP/Import/McQuaig | 2025 3rd rounder?

Defence:

1 McGowan OA | Williamson

2 Velliaris/Import | FRP/Moore

3 Schmidt/Velliaris/Import | FRP/Moore

Traded or gone from team- McNamara, Miedema(AHL or NCAA or Trade- don’t see him here next year), Uronen, Pieniniemi, Burns, Guindon, Uens, Lalonde, Heyes, Pickell

That is 10 (TEN) guys from the team this year. And to top it off- guys like Battaglia, Soto will get a lot of interest next year I am sure. So second half of the season we’re probably playing without those guys. Could also be playing without McGowan as some team may want him in their top 4 next year.

Dervin I think comes here next year. I think he gets drafted this year in the NHL and they tell him to come here for a year and get minutes on a depleted roster- playing every situation, before going NCAA in 2026/27

Also too hard to predict trades that we get here but I’d like to see Henry Mews here (but I don’t think it gets done)


Goalies

1- Vaccari OA (can’t leave Betts out to dry in his rookie season, have to give him SOME support)
2- Betts

 

[ScoutLife4]

I'd personally consider anyone not signed or already an OA this season to be potentially here until they are not.
If you are going to leave an OA out for next season i'd make it UENS.

 

[leafs4life94]

May have missed it being posted but looks like Manza got into some games with Chilliwack so it's probably safe to fully cross him off the unlikely list.