No he is not with the team. Do not know where he is.
On another note I see Poole is suspended indefinitely.
Kingston Frontenacs 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)
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On another note I see Poole is suspended indefinitely.
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No he is not
Should be a good game today against flint. Couple years ago they used to fight every time they played. It’s cooled off now but would be cool to see some rough stuff. Flint beat Ottawa and Peterborough this weekend and I believe this is their 3rd game in a 3 in 3. Fronts with their day of rest HAVE TO CAPITALIZE. If they lose this game I’m going to be very disappointed.
Nice OT win today. Frasca with the winner. Now on the road next weekend.
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I agree. Good for frasca. He’s gonna be good this year. If he takes as big of a leap as battaglia has were set up front with or without ludwinski after wjc
Chromiak officially off to Slovakia's preliminary camp for the world juniors. I believe he and Ludwinski will be the only ones invited. Hemstrom should probably at least be invited but Sweden kind of has that USA approach to inviting players who leave their system.
Ludwinski should be invited but also wouldn't be surprised if he's not. One of those fringe players. IMO he'd be a perfect 4th line forward for them, but who knows.
Going to be a tough stretch up until the deadline, especially if our captain is gone. Hopefully the boys can start putting some W's together.
Ludwinski should be invited but also wouldn't be surprised if he's not. One of those fringe players. IMO he'd be a perfect 4th line forward for them, but who knows.
Going to be a tough stretch up until the deadline, especially if our captain is gone. Hopefully the boys can start putting some W's together.
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Talked to hemstrom last week- he said they don’t have a camp for it they just name the team. And he said they would name it this week. I’d be surprised if they don’t name him he’s not just a 1 dimensional player he plays the game very well as a 2 way. It’s in Sweden too so that would be great for him. Hope he makes it as a 3/4th liner and same with ludwinski on Canada
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There are too many players nationally better than him I think him a and Stonehouse are odd men out
2023-24 Selection Camp Roster | National Junior Team
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Ludwinski invited to WJC camp - I'm curious to see if he'll make the trip with the Fronts for the Thurs/Friday games and head back to Oakville Saturday or if he'll stay back to make sure there's no injury risk.
Edit - the link is the right one, the website header says 2022-2023
The question is, if he makes the team, has he played his last home game as a Frontenac?
Damn....that's upsetting.
Realistically though, I'd imagine there's a decent chance that could very well be the case.
I think that would be a mistake. Kingston needs to try and have a strong second half, make the playoffs and try and win a playoff round in preparation for a potential contending season next year. Trading their top point producer will not help them achieve this.
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I think absolutely he has and that’s why he has been so upset on the bench lately and playing with passion. After the 2 losses this week he was the last one off the ice both times spending about an extra minute or two on the bench at the end after everyone left
They have a ton of centres to fill his spot. They’d take the short term loss for the long term gain
| Goaltenders | |||||||
| Domenic DiVincentiis | L | 6’3” | 200 | 03/04/04 | Bolton, ON | North Bay (OHL) | WPG 2022 (7/207) |
| Scott Ratzlaff | L | 6’1” | 175 | 03/09/05 | Irma, AB | Seattle (WHL) | BUF 2023 (5/141) |
| Mathis Rousseau | L | 5’11” | 172 | 09/10/04 | Boisbriand, QC | Halifax (LHJMQ) | 2024 Draft |
| Samuel St-Hilaire | L | 6’2” | 184 | 05/11/04 | St-Elzeard-de-Beauce, QC | Sherbrooke (LHJMQ) | 2024 Draft |
| Defence | |||||||
| Oliver Bonk | R | 6’2” | 179 | 01/09/05 | Ottawa, ON | London (OHL) | PHI 2023 (1/22) |
| Michael Buchinger | L | 6’0” | 191 | 04/25/04 | Markham, ON | Guelph (OHL) | STL 2022 (3/88) |
| Jorian Donovan | L | 6’2” | 195 | 04/05/04 | Richmond, ON | Brantford (OHL) | OTT 2022 (5/136) |
| Jake Furlong | L | 6’1” | 200 | 03/04/04 | Upper Tantallon, NS | Halifax (LHJMQ) | SJS 2022 (5/140) |
| Maveric Lamoureux | R | 6’7” | 214 | 01/13/04 | Hawkesbury, ON | Drummondville (LHJMQ) | ARI 2022 (1/29) |
| Tristan Luneau | R | 6’2” | 195 | 01/12/04 | Victoriaville, QC | Gatineau (LHJMQ) | ANA 2022 (2/53) |
| Denton Mateychuk | L | 5’11” | 191 | 07/12/04 | Dominion City, MB | Moose Jaw (WHL) | CBJ 2022 (1/12) |
| Tanner Molendyk | L | 6’0” | 181 | 02/03/05 | McBride, BC | Saskatoon (WHL) | NSH 2023 (1/24) |
| Ty Nelson | R | 5’10” | 206 | 03/30/04 | Toronto, ON | North Bay (OHL) | SEA 2022 (3/68) |
| Noah Warren | R | 6’6” | 225 | 07/15/04 | Montréal, QC | Victoriaville (LHJMQ) | ANA 2022 (2/42) |
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| Owen Allard | L | 6’2” | 200 | 01/13/04 | Ottawa, ON | Sault Ste. Marie (OHL) | 2024 Draft |
| Denver Barkey | L | 5’9” | 154 | 04/27/05 | Newmarket, ON | London (OHL) | PHI 2023 (3/95) |
| Owen Beck | R | 6’0” | 190 | 02/03/04 | Port Hope, ON | Peterborough (OHL) | MTL 2022 (2/33) |
| Macklin Celebrini | L | 6’0” | 190 | 06/13/06 | Vancouver, BC | Boston University (HE) | 2024 Draft |
| Easton Cowan | L | 5’10” | 171 | 05/20/05 | Mount Brydges, ON | London (OHL) | TOR 2023 (1/28) |
| Nate Danielson | R | 6’2” | 188 | 09/27/04 | Red Deer, AB | Brandon (WHL) | DET 2023 (1/9) |
| Jordan Dumais | R | 5’9” | 174 | 04/15/04 | Montréal, Que. | Halifax (LHJMQ) | CBJ 2022 (3/96) |
| Jagger Firkus | R | 5’11” | 160 | 04/29/04 | Irma, AB | Moose Jaw (WHL) | SEA 2022 (2/35) |
| Conor Geekie | L | 6’4” | 197 | 05/05/04 | Strathclair, MB | Wenatchee (WHL) | ARI 2022 (1/11) |
| Paul Ludwinski | L | 5’11” | 187 | 04/23/04 | Pickering, ON | Kingston (OHL) | CHI 2022 (2/39) |
| Fraser Minten | L | 6’1” | 194 | 07/05/04 | Vancouver, BC | Saskatoon (WHL) | TOR 2022 (2/38) |
| Carson Rehkopf | L | 6’1” | 195 | 01/07/05 | Vaughan, ON | Kitchener (OHL) | SEA 2023 (2/50) |
| Matthew Savoie | R | 5’10” | 176 | 01/01/04 | St. Albert, Alta. | Wenatchee (WHL) | BUF 2022 (1/9) |
| Markus Vidicek | L | 5’10” | 162 | 03/21/04 | Kirkland, QC | Halifax (LHJMQ) | 2024 Draft |
| Matthew Wood | R | 6’3” | 190 | 02/06/05 | Nanaimo, BC | University of Connecticut (HE) | NSH 2023 (1/15) |
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Personally, I think it would be smart to keep him. I absolutely see the plus side of moving him for picks/a young player, but we have a super young team. That leadership from an NHL drafted player is so valuable. I think winning a round or two and having the team gain that experience outweighs the picks you could get in a hypothetical trade for him.
We still have enough assets to make a big addition next year for the 'go for it' year. It's very realistic that he is moved though and I could definitely see it happening. Time will tell I suppose.
We still have enough assets to make a big addition next year for the 'go for it' year. It's very realistic that he is moved though and I could definitely see it happening. Time will tell I suppose.
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Forwards that will make the team
Dumais, Beck, Celebrini, Geekie, Savoie
Likely to make team: cowan, yager, danielson, firkus, wood
Dog fight for last spots: ludwinski, minten, rehkopf,
Unlikely to make it based off role: barkey, vidicek, allard
I personally think it’s interesting that the only returning forward is Beck on the team. Completely new team this year assuming people don’t come back from the nhl.
Before people come at me for Rehkopf- remember he would be filling a skill role not a defensive one. So I’m that sense I could see a guy like barkey actually making the team over him for that.
If people come back from the nhl and ahl obviously this team will look different than I’m projecting but I assume they’ll pick 13 maybe 14 forwards just incase of injury. And there’s only 16 forward listed so that’s 3 cuts
Dumais, Beck, Celebrini, Geekie, Savoie
Likely to make team: cowan, yager, danielson, firkus, wood
Dog fight for last spots: ludwinski, minten, rehkopf,
Unlikely to make it based off role: barkey, vidicek, allard
I personally think it’s interesting that the only returning forward is Beck on the team. Completely new team this year assuming people don’t come back from the nhl.
Before people come at me for Rehkopf- remember he would be filling a skill role not a defensive one. So I’m that sense I could see a guy like barkey actually making the team over him for that.
If people come back from the nhl and ahl obviously this team will look different than I’m projecting but I assume they’ll pick 13 maybe 14 forwards just incase of injury. And there’s only 16 forward listed so that’s 3 cuts
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I get what you’re saying but for instance if they trade him to London for Sam O’Rielly and picks they get a guy who will be here for this year and atleast 2 years after with lots of picks to bolster the team for next year. It would be a hard choice for the fronts to trade him but would be a wise one.
With potentially ludwinski, hemstrom and Chromiak all away for the world juniors for a good 10 games. The fronts will be really vying for points and might go 5-8 games under 0.500. That would tell anyone they’re likely not buying and probably being a conservative seller. Among the big pieces on the team this year the only 2 that won’t be back are ludwinski and holmes(no offence to callens but he doesn’t hold much value) it would make sense to get lots of picks for next year after trading a good bunch away in the last year for guys like outwater, savard, holmes and Chromiak.
Plus if they get an 06 they’ll be an impact player probably and be back for 2026 when shit likely hits the fan after going for it all next year so they can sell them off and start a new cycle. It’s jr hockey not the nhl not every team is good every year and there’s a lot of cycling.
I believe the SAG 2nd and BFD 5th conditions were met by Haché playing this year.
Hopefully it would force some leadership out of some of the younger guys that will need to step up - at this point I don't even know who I'd point to, maybe a Soto/Battaglia? Miedema doesn't lead by example effort wise and I'm not sure Thibodeau has it in him either.
If the trade happens a good leadership/energy OA to replace Savard is a must (I'd argue it already is).
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I think you'll see guys like Frasca and Hopkins be those next leaders. Soto is far too introverted and doesnt like the spot light, Thibodeau is focused on his own thing (not saying good or bad just saying) I think Battaglia could be a leader. He's well liked and has that on ice performance happening along with his confidence.
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Hopkins will prob get an a next year. Brings it every night only some could argue that since he will be a second year player. My vote is him of Soto
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Only way they win a round would be if they could finish top 3 or 4, which at this point seems unrealistic. Holding onto him just to be a .500 team and lose in the first round would be a big mistake.
You're probably right. Too emotionally involved to have an unbiased opinion sometimes lol. Losing Ludwinski would suck but it would probably be the right thing to do for next year.
You're right about those picks in the Haché deal, those were conditional on him returning to the O.
Taking a quick scan through teams around the league and I think these players would be the best to target in a hypothetical Ludwinski deal:
Quinn Beauchesne - D
Jett Luchanko - RW (unlikely, he's point per game and a big reason why they're doing well)
Sam O'Reilly - RW
Carson Cameron - D (I doubt it, PBO seems really high on him)
Cameron Reid - D (Same thing, Kitchener seems high on him plus I don't know if they'll be huge buyers this year since they spent a lot of assets last year)
One of these guys would be fun to get, however unlikely they are lol
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If there’s any word that poitras is coming back I’d suspect Guelph is in the mix for him. If they won’t part with luchanko then beauchene would do I’m sure but you’d have to assume kingston is targeting an 06 that will make an impact on the roster next year first before looking at 07’s
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I agree with all those guys but Pete’s are definitely selling this year not buying
If he gets sent to Sudbury I’d think they would be targeting Villenueve/walton.
If he gets sent to Saginaw I think they’ll target Willis/Young
If he makes the team and plays well his stock will be through the roof. Would be tough to sell but also tough not to. If they can get a player that is a year younger and a big contributor (not as big as him obviously), then that would lessen the blow for this season and still give them a shot to do some damage with another solid OA or two pickup.
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