Kingston Frontenacs 2023-24 Season Thread (Part One)

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how is mcfarland in charge of d? hes never played defence in his life?
Not sure I could be getting them mixed up but I know of the 2 assistant coaches 1 is in charge of forwards and powerplay and one is in charge of defence and penalty kill. Caputi oversees stuff and makes changes where needed that’s just what I know
 
Not sure I could be getting them mixed up but I know of the 2 assistant coaches 1 is in charge of forwards and powerplay and one is in charge of defence and penalty kill. Caputi oversees stuff and makes changes where needed that’s just what I know
Also- to add to that, I sit behind the bench and I see the old guy I forget what his name is- directing the powerplay all the time- so I’d assume he’s in charge of power plays and forwards but I could be wrong- I never see McFarland doing any of that though.
 
Owen sound let go of their coach. Now would be the perfect time to drop Caputi and pick him up lol. He’s not perfect by any means but a hell of a lot better than Caputi I’d say
 
Wait and see!

Meant to include this in my last post...

Outshoot London 36-27 and lose 8-1. Going 0-9 on the PP and giving up the two aforementioned shorty handed goals. Then right back to the same game plan the next day. How does that make a single bit of sense?
Wait and see!

Meant to include this in my last post...

Outshoot London 36-27 and lose 8-1. Going 0-9 on the PP and giving up the two aforementioned shorty handed goals. Then right back to the same game plan the next day. How does that make a single bit of sense?
I just don’t buy into the idea that the teams best player wants to demand a trade because he isn’t producing. That’s on him to produce, if he isn’t doing anything, going to another team isn’t going to change that. There is only so much the coach can do, people on here think the coach has magical powers and can sprinkle fairy dust on these kids and make them better. He can change the lineup but the players need to do the work. Putting the grinders on the powerplay isn’t the answer. And playing badly and asking for a trade does nothing but make him look bad. If these kids want to move on to the next level they need to figure it out. As for the 5 forwards on the powerplay, if they had a better option I’m sure they’d do that, once again they need to figure it out, Cale Makar isn’t going to all of a sudden show up to run the pp, if they can’t do it then they’re going to be bad all year, new coach or not it won’t make a difference.
 
how is mcfarland in charge of d? hes never played defence in his life?
Caputi LW AHL 3years head coach 5 years assoc
Longo - RW best league AHL in 94=95 5 years asst coach Fronts
McFarland - RW AHL 3 years assistant
Tyson Teichmann goalie OUAA first year runs goaltending clinics

Jacque Martin Advisor Not sure how he fits in or who he is advising.

SO the answer as to why McFarland is in charge of defence is easy there is no one else.
 
Only way ludwinski will be gone before January (to maximize value) is if they’re like 15 games under 0.500 at some point and I doubt they’re gonna go on a big losing streak like that.

Poole could play more than outwater but you have to remember they traded a lot for outwater last year and he’s gotten better year after year- his effort though on the ice is horrible so I think Caputi should bench him to teach him a lesson.

You don’t pick Hopkins 4th overall to have him rot on the 4th line so they have to play him up. I don’t think he should be with ludwinski and miedema anymore though.
If the fronts are not a top 3 near Christmas and still have the same coach I think you m,y see a lot of players looking to escape.

I really think that there has to be a change in mindset and the only way that happens is with a change in coaching and coaching style.

We know Springer will not pay extra money and that there really are not any good coaches avail this late in the season.

If they are going to make a change they need to look at who is the most respected of Cooper, MacFarland and Longo. Who will the players play for? Who are the players that are poison in the dressing room get rid of them ASAP (yes that could mean an early trade of Ludwinski if he is a problem)

Springer listened to the players before and fired a good coach. In this case, it is the reverse they need to find a coach that the players will play for and has a disciplined system. Hit the reset button NOW before the rot settles in.

As to the schedule that is decided by the OHL owners with input from the other teams, the GM. Coach and the arena.

The biggest reason that Ottawa always plays the northern swing in the fall and Kingston and Ottawa both like to get the western done is weather is so unpredictable in the Jan-March timeframe. It also used to have a bit to do with getting the players out of the billet Kingston lifestyle and forcing them together for a few days to bond as a team.
 
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Owen sound let go of their coach. Now would be the perfect time to drop Caputi and pick him up lol. He’s not perfect by any means but a hell of a lot better than Caputi I’d say
But that would cost money and a contract for a few years,

First Springer is not going to pay 2 coaches unless the coach is willing to just sign for this season it is better to wait and get a good coach at the end of the season/
 
Caputi LW AHL 3years head coach 5 years assoc
Longo - RW best league AHL in 94=95 5 years asst coach Fronts
McFarland - RW AHL 3 years assistant
Tyson Teichmann goalie OUAA first year runs goaltending clinics

Jacque Martin Advisor Not sure how he fits in or who he is advising.

SO the answer as to why McFarland is in charge of defence is easy there is no one else.
your taking my post too literally. im asking why hire mcfarland in the first place, hire someone who can teach playing defence. it was a mid summer hire, not like they had no time.
 
your taking my post too literally. im asking why hire mcfarland in the first place, hire someone who can teach playing defence. it was a mid summer hire, not like they had no time.
I agree, but add to the fact that they have had 3 years of this trio. Imagine what might have happened if they had hired a coach that knows about defence.

Personally I think it all comes down to 2 things.
money and Caputi did not want them to hire someone smarter than him.

Can anyone explain what Jacque Martin is advising.
 
I agree, but add to the fact that they have had 3 years of this trio. Imagine what might have happened if they had hired a coach that knows about defence.

Personally I think it all comes down to 2 things.
money and Caputi did not want them to hire someone smarter than him.

Can anyone explain what Jacque Martin is advising.
im sure martin isnt advising, im sure its more of a pr thing where they pay him a bit and they put his name on the website. when jeff twohey was advising, he was scouting and out on the road. martin has never really done anything in the ohl, not compared to twohey anyways.
 
how is mcfarland in charge of d? hes never played defence in his life?
He is in charge of the D because his brother got him the job, chris longo must be the old guy . I don't know if either of them has any input into the team
 
He is in charge of the D because his brother got him the job, chris longo must be the old guy . I don't know if either of them has any input into the team
oh i know, im asking why, why does he get the job, brother should have no impact on it, he wasnt on staff when his brother was there, he was just a skill guy and regional scout, brother leaves, burns the team and the guy is hired to coach d? come on.
 
I just don’t buy into the idea that the teams best player wants to demand a trade because he isn’t producing. That’s on him to produce, if he isn’t doing anything, going to another team isn’t going to change that. There is only so much the coach can do, people on here think the coach has magical powers and can sprinkle fairy dust on these kids and make them better. He can change the lineup but the players need to do the work. Putting the grinders on the powerplay isn’t the answer. And playing badly and asking for a trade does nothing but make him look bad. If these kids want to move on to the next level they need to figure it out. As for the 5 forwards on the powerplay, if they had a better option I’m sure they’d do that, once again they need to figure it out, Cale Makar isn’t going to all of a sudden show up to run the pp, if they can’t do it then they’re going to be bad all year, new coach or not it won’t make a difference.
I get what you are saying about the PP but for me it comes back to the no accountability thing. When the same guys get scored on three times in two days and give up other numerous chances while going 0-11 you do something about it. Not keep running them out there. Sit them from the PP for a few periods or a game regardless of who it is or what their draft status was/is.. Send a message so that the next time they get out there they bare down, get to loose pucks, control the play, make good decisions, and generate some chances. The only thing a coach can actually control on a player is their ice tine. Run with your standard lines and two D on the PP for a few periods to try to motivate the regular PP guys for when they get back out there again. At least it would lessen the chance of getting scored against short handed and they are not scoring anyways. Heck, maybe practice the PP with the PK guys turning their sticks upside down like a Novice team practice. Just try something different already.
 
I just don’t buy into the idea that the teams best player wants to demand a trade because he isn’t producing. That’s on him to produce, if he isn’t doing anything, going to another team isn’t going to change that. There is only so much the coach can do, people on here think the coach has magical powers and can sprinkle fairy dust on these kids and make them better. He can change the lineup but the players need to do the work. Putting the grinders on the powerplay isn’t the answer. And playing badly and asking for a trade does nothing but make him look bad. If these kids want to move on to the next level they need to figure it out. As for the 5 forwards on the powerplay, if they had a better option I’m sure they’d do that, once again they need to figure it out, Cale Makar isn’t going to all of a sudden show up to run the pp, if they can’t do it then they’re going to be bad all year, new coach or not it won’t make a difference.
There are usually a few reasons. The first is that the player does not feel he is being utilized properly.
second is that he may feel that this team is going nowhere and wants on a team that is going to be competitive.

Third, he may just want a change. Beck felt that way.

Fourth and I have a feeling that this may be the big reason. He feels that he is not getting the coaching to help him develop and improve so that he can make the next jump be it AHL or NHL.

As to the coach not doing much consider the development reputation of teams like Ottawa, London and North Bay.

Playing on a team that is making the coaching mistakes this team is making could be a reason. You also have to wonder how much respect the coaching staff gets from the team.

Consider back in the Gilmour years and remember Gubrandsen. Hated Gilmour's guts and demanded a trade, and Florida even tried to delay sending him back . When he did come back there was no love lost and no desire of Gubrandsen to put his body on the line.

Kory is going to have to do something fast either trade a disgruntled player to get him out of the dressing room and publicly in front of the players endorse the coaches or make changes to the coaching staff.
 
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Backup goalie acquired from Erie. Thank god.
This’ll help salajkos development to getting sent down and this guy played 37 games in the ohl. So 36 games more of experience than salajko lol.
 
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There are usually a few reasons. The first is that the player does not feel he is being utilized properly.
second is that he may feel that this team is going nowhere and wants on a team that is going to be competitive.

Third, he may just want a change. Beck felt that way.

Fourth and I have a feeling that this may be the big reason. He feels that he is not getting the coaching to help him develop and improve so that he can make the next jump be it AHL or NHL.

As to the coach not doing much consider the development reputation of teams like Ottawa, London and North Bay.

Playing on a team that is making the coaching mistakes this team is making could be a reason. You also have to wonder how much respect the coaching staff gets from the team.

Consider back in the Gilmour years and remember Gubrandsen. Hated Gilmour's guts and demanded a trade, and Florida even tried to delay sending him back . When he did come back there was no love lost and no desire of Gubrandsen to put his body on the line.

Kory is going to have to do something fast either trade a disgruntled player to get him out of the dressing room and publicly in front of the players endorse the coaches or make changes to the coaching staff.
You know what makes great coaches? Great players.
London is successful because they have the best players, it’s not as if they take a team of plugs and magically turn them into the best players in the league every year.
Does Caputi need to beg them to try? Everyone saying he needs to go, what is going to happen with a new coach and these game players? You put Caputi in London and Hunter in kingston, Does Kingston become the better team? No.
 
im sure martin isnt advising, im sure its more of a pr thing where they pay him a bit and they put his name on the website. when jeff twohey was advising, he was scouting and out on the road. martin has never really done anything in the ohl, not compared to twohey anyways.
Jacques Martin was an assistant coach with the Peterborough Petes from 1983 until 1985 under Dick Todd who likely was the best OHL coach of his era. Martin then went onto become the head coach of the Guelph Platers in 1985-1986 winning the Memorial Cup.
 
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Jacques Martin was an assistant coach with the Peterborough Petes from 1983 until 1985 under Dick Todd who likely was the best OHL coach of his era. Martin then went onto become the head coach of the Guelph Platers in 1985-1986 winning the Memorial Cup.
so over 20 years ago he had a cup of coffee in the league, thanks. my point stands
 
oh i know, im asking why, why does he get the job, brother should have no impact on it, he wasnt on staff when his brother was there, he was just a skill guy and regional scout, brother leaves, burns the team and the guy is hired to coach d? come on.
This move really was puzzling in a few ways.
 
Owen sound let go of their coach. Now would be the perfect time to drop Caputi and pick him up lol. He’s not perfect by any means but a hell of a lot better than Caputi

You know what makes great coaches? Great players.
London is successful because they have the best players, it’s not as if they take a team of plugs and magically turn them into the best players in the league every year.
Does Caputi need to beg them to try? Everyone saying he needs to go, what is going to happen with a new coach and these game players? You put Caputi in London and Hunter in kingston, Does Kingston become the better team? No.
The best players report to london when picked in the draft or hunted down as free agents because of a quality pro like program. They don't go to be constantly screamed at, not be developed, or be in a mediocre at best program. How did they get Isaah George a 4th round stud of a Dman in the 4th round of the ohl draft? Because he told london he would only go there. Who wants to play for us? Quality program with quality ownership brings out the players. Thsi will never change
 
The best players report to london when picked in the draft or hunted down as free agents because of a quality pro like program. They don't go to be constantly screamed at, not be developed, or be in a mediocre at best program. How did they get Isaah George a 4th round stud of a Dman in the 4th round of the ohl draft? Because he told london he would only go there. Who wants to play for us? Quality program with quality ownership brings out the players. Thsi will never change
Comparing any team in the league to London is unfair. It’s not a coincidence that the team that gets the best players is constantly successful.
 
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chicken, egg. A franchise has to make the comittment to be the best or at least in the top 25%. It costs money, but the results will come. Results being a proud franchise, top players reporting and winning seasons
 
The best players report to london when picked in the draft or hunted down as free agents because of a quality pro like program. They don't go to be constantly screamed at, not be developed, or be in a mediocre at best program. How did they get Isaah George a 4th round stud of a Dman in the 4th round of the ohl draft? Because he told london he would only go there. Who wants to play for us? Quality program with quality ownership brings out the players. Thsi will never change
It depends on the player really if they have an ego the size of a hockey rink they’ll wanna go to a team like London or Kitchener but if not then they’re fine coming here. We did get Shane wright after all.
 
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