Rumor: KINGS 2018-19 Season- Luc/Rob ****Show/ Sell Everyone!! Part 3
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kingsfan28
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Can't be creative when your guys are stationary. Kovy not being able to get the puck is a big problem.
peterthegreat12
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kilowatt
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Didn’t the Kings have interest in Connolly a while back? Not that it matters with regards to cap space for the Capitals.
Reaper45
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Caps would have to send out cap for any deal to happen right? Who's expendable?
AmadiosAmigos
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Clifford is pushing his trade value up a bit.
Kovy engaging physically will help his cause.
Toffoli coming around hasnt hurt one bit.
I would love to see us offload the assets we can for a reboot. Add Carter into the mix as well. Im hesitant with AMart and Quick. I feel the return will be underwhelming for Quick, and AMart will hold as much or more value next deadline if we are in a similar position as a seller.
Kovy engaging physically will help his cause.
Toffoli coming around hasnt hurt one bit.
I would love to see us offload the assets we can for a reboot. Add Carter into the mix as well. Im hesitant with AMart and Quick. I feel the return will be underwhelming for Quick, and AMart will hold as much or more value next deadline if we are in a similar position as a seller.
Peter James Bond II
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Can we send Kopitar, Toffoli, Clague,#1 2019, #1 2020 (lottery protected) to the Oil for McDavid?
Ollie Weeks
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KingsFan7824
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That may be, but in terms of trying to figure out what the deal might look like, what fits together?
peterthegreat12
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I also have no idea. I look at the players the Caps might dangle and I don’t get it for the Kings either. Caps have Burakovsky and Bowey to throw out there. Who knows though, BMac said he wanted a hockey trade so maybe he is willing to offer up someone we aren’t considering.
Ollie Weeks
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Regardless of the magnitude of any deal, if Washington has a surplus of defensive prospects, I would hope LA is targeting at least one of them with decent potential. That pipeline is so meh.
Since washington was scouting Ontario also, maybe its a player and a prospect for a high pick? MacD, Lintuniemi? I don't really like any of their prospects, i don't know too much about any of them, Alexyev looks like he could be good
KingsHockey24
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Every source I've gotten is that Clifford is staying. (Toronto wanted him with Muzzin but LA didn't budge.)
I'd rather keep Kovy than retain on him and take a bad player with a not so great contract back and a pick.
Toffoli I'd only move if it was for a young top six forward which I doubt any teams are offering.
Sleeping Dog
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Might need to add to that offer - Jimmy Carson and $15M.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
Doughty is terrible on the PP, and when you don't really have a legit QB on the point it's hard to have a great PP.
Doughty's PP struggles are the reason he won't be considered a top 10 d-man of all-time, if his play on the PP was anywhere close to the rest of his game he would be Ray Bourque caliber, but for some reason the ability to effectively play on the PP just never happened for Drew.
Ziggy Stardust
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Ever since Kopitar arrived the Kings have forced the power play to go through him on the half wall. It doesn't work, because Kopitar is too passive. He doesn't impose his will on opponents, he only takes what he is given, and opponents are happy to let him play catch with the point man on the power play.
The PP is so stationary. You watch TB or the Caps and those guys are moving all over the place. It's really painful to watch LA try and set up for the "one timer", zero creativity, zero thought, zero results.
Herby
How could Blake have known?
I miss the Jamie Kompon PP's with Kopitar on the half wall lobbing one-timers to Jarret Stoll at the point.
The more I watch Kopitar the less I want him on the team.
I know, NMC, 1C, core guy, BLuc said blah blah blah, just except that he's on the team and will be for the next 6 years, He has total control blah blah blah.
IMO he is no longer a 1C, the Thornton comparison is a really good one. Except his effort is about 65% of Thornton's.
I know, NMC, 1C, core guy, BLuc said blah blah blah, just except that he's on the team and will be for the next 6 years, He has total control blah blah blah.
IMO he is no longer a 1C, the Thornton comparison is a really good one. Except his effort is about 65% of Thornton's.
Raccoon Jesus
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That's only the vet unit, though. The second unit looks different damn near every time, both in terms of personnel and setup. I'd love to see what the splits are in effectiveness between the two.
Unless the Kings plan on tanking again next season, they absolutely can not continue to roll out the Forbort/Doughty top pairing. It is ridiculous to pay a guy 11 million and handicap him the way they have.
When paired together: 46 CF%, 45 FF%, 44 SF%, 43 GF%, 44 SCF%, 45 HDCF%.
Drew without Forbort: 54 CF%, 53 FF%, 54 SF%, 48 GF%, 50 SCF%, 51 HDCF%.
Obviously Drew has not been up to the level of play we all expect and his effort has been questionable, but a huge portion of his(and subsequently the team's) decline has been his partner. Forbort can be a solid bottom pairing guy who can PK, but he shouldn't be logging so many minutes and definitely shouldn't be tied to Doughty night in, night out.
When paired together: 46 CF%, 45 FF%, 44 SF%, 43 GF%, 44 SCF%, 45 HDCF%.
Drew without Forbort: 54 CF%, 53 FF%, 54 SF%, 48 GF%, 50 SCF%, 51 HDCF%.
Obviously Drew has not been up to the level of play we all expect and his effort has been questionable, but a huge portion of his(and subsequently the team's) decline has been his partner. Forbort can be a solid bottom pairing guy who can PK, but he shouldn't be logging so many minutes and definitely shouldn't be tied to Doughty night in, night out.
Ziggy Stardust
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There was a game (or shifts) where Doughty and Martinez were together and they looked great together.
Perhaps they fear there is nobody to pair Forbort with? To think, a former 1st round pick in a deep draft needs to be babysat by a much superior defenseman. Who blew that pick?
Perhaps they fear there is nobody to pair Forbort with? To think, a former 1st round pick in a deep draft needs to be babysat by a much superior defenseman. Who blew that pick?
Ollie Weeks
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One of the reasons I wanted us to take a flyer on Maata out of Pittsburgh is the complete lack of quality defencemen we have, and to give a different look for Doughty on the top pairing. Maata might not be any faster than Forbort, but he’s an inprovement in terms of hockey sense and overall ability.
Ziggy Stardust
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Should the Kings clear up more cap space prior to July 1 and go the free agent route, there are plenty of options available in terms of blueline upgrades.
Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
In terms of taking a flyer on a name that doesn't pop out, Nick Jensen would be a very solid #4, RHD to add to the blueline.
Browse - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
In terms of taking a flyer on a name that doesn't pop out, Nick Jensen would be a very solid #4, RHD to add to the blueline.
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