The fans does not care. If there is free money to be had by the clubs, they'll take it obviously regardless if the fans care or not, it's just a small tournament.
2nd point is probably true.
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The fans does not care. If there is free money to be had by the clubs, they'll take it obviously regardless if the fans care or not, it's just a small tournament.
2nd point is probably true.
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Im sorry,what?This is just ridicilous any KHL bottow dweller is way better than any SEL top team.-
No no no.. clearly no! :|
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It's not planned to be a small tournament but rather a league, especially with the KHL involved. With HÃ¥kan Loob involved, that means Swedish clubs are interested.
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Im sorry,what?
Riga nor Medveszsdhssomething wouldn't stand a chance against the top 4 teams in Finland nor Sweden.
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As an American with just some basic knowledge of the KHL and European leagues, I find this discussion very fascinating and informative. Obviously, you don't have these kind of political issues in North American hockey.
Anyway, I'm curious, and I hope this wasn't covered already, but I'm not sure I quite get what you mean by a Euro league. Do you mean an entirely different league than the KHL that would only compete aginst them in tournaments if at all? Or are you talking about what would essentially be a different conference, split between, say, Western Europe and Eastern Europe and Russia and it's neigbors?
Thanks for indulging me...
Anyway, I'm curious, and I hope this wasn't covered already, but I'm not sure I quite get what you mean by a Euro league. Do you mean an entirely different league than the KHL that would only compete aginst them in tournaments if at all? Or are you talking about what would essentially be a different conference, split between, say, Western Europe and Eastern Europe and Russia and it's neigbors?
Thanks for indulging me...
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There was many attempts to create something like soccer UEFA Champions League, the last one was Champions Hockey League
Nowadays we have KHL with czech,slovak, croatian etc and next year finnish club. By euro league I mean the new project of IIHF, European Trophy and KHL should be involved as well. It wont be competition like latest Champions Hockey League, it will be rather something like basketbal Euroleague with licences. IMO there is a deal among IIHF a KHL about this euro league, KHL will control it or the biggest influence. Loob and co. will be just "figures" without power. Money wil decide everything and Loob´s friends does not have money, Russians (KHL) have. KHL has now 28 clubs, Jokerit is going to be 29th. KHL wants to have 32 clubs, 2 spots are for Euros.
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Still joke tournament as most games are played in the training season, meaning most teams are just starting to find their game plus rosters aren't ready, or not the best players play every game.
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Your teams struggle even against Red Bull and the Vienna Capitals (which weren't even that much better compared to EBEL version of Medveščak), and with the new Medveščak roster for KHL saying that they wouldn't have a chance is just pushing it way to far. If anything it would be the opposite.
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Yup like that time riga didnt stand a chance against swiss vice champions in that Spengler cup,yeah right.
Thanks for the replies. I am somewhat familiar with the concept of the European trophy, but I was confused about the talk of the KHL holding all the influence as to whether it happens. I will be curious to see what other European clubs join the KHL. Not to get into personal politics, but I do intend to attend some KHL games early next year, and that would not happen if they did not have clubs outside of the former Soviet states. I'm leaning towards Prague at the moment. And I would certainly like to see Jokerit next year. This would allow me to catch KHL games as well as Czech Extralig and Sm-Liiga. Personally, I am rooting for a Swedish team to join for the same reason.
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"Euro League" refers by many similar to what NFL Europe (link) tried and gave up after 15 years of not making any profit.
Not only hockey is small market sport, but also in Europe international club competitions have always been shadowed by national leagues. That is why there has not been new attempts since Champions Hockey League in 2008-09. (The tournament was never played again).
What comes to KHL expansion outside Russia or it's neighboring countries: Prague, Bratislava and Helsinki are already in. Add Stockholm - maybe Zurich & Berlin - and you got the cities that have both the size and enough hockey fans to support a team.
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Could London and Paris support a KHL franchise? The homegrown talent isn't their, but I'm sure the money and facilities are. Or are they better off with NHL pre-season games?
It's likely that Tyumen will replace Yugra or merge with it. It's not that obvious that Lada will join with arena of this size. It can, because de jure they didn't leave the league, but I don't think that there are plans to build larger arena in Tolliati after building this 6k arena. However, Medvedev said that Lada will join within a year, but still, there are no guarantees.
IMO Paris has better chances to join than London, because the arena there is not that busy comparing London's one and the level of French NT is higher. Moreover, Paris is a home for less sport teams than London, so nice attendance can be expected.
Both cities can join if some stable investor wanted to place a team there, but they are not priority for the KHL.
Thanks.
I could see a premier hockey team in Paris flourishing. London, too. But I guess we'll have to wait and see if the KHL becomes a European version of the NHL. Which, no doubt, will happen eventually. A friendly between Montreal and Paris would be can't miss.
It is a ridiculous idea to place a team in London. Paris i imagine is equally absurd, though i am less educated in that regard.
There is no hockey culture in London. There is no market for it. People point to the population and finances available in the city and presume that is enough. There is no infrastructure of hockey in the city, there is no youth system of note in the city, there is no financial desire for hockey in the city. We don't have a single national team player capable of participating at the KHL level and don't have a youth system remotely near what is an absolute bare minimum standard for an elite level European pro hockey team.
It wouldn't make new hockey fans. A league entirely filled with imports playing in a foreign league in a market with no hockey interest is an absurd business and social venture.
KHL and Russian hockey should be focusing on developing and growing hockey in it's country rather than embarking on nonsensical dreams in fairy land markets.
There is no hockey culture in London. There is no market for it. People point to the population and finances available in the city and presume that is enough. There is no infrastructure of hockey in the city, there is no youth system of note in the city, there is no financial desire for hockey in the city. We don't have a single national team player capable of participating at the KHL level and don't have a youth system remotely near what is an absolute bare minimum standard for an elite level European pro hockey team.
It wouldn't make new hockey fans. A league entirely filled with imports playing in a foreign league in a market with no hockey interest is an absurd business and social venture.
KHL and Russian hockey should be focusing on developing and growing hockey in it's country rather than embarking on nonsensical dreams in fairy land markets.
Meanwhile, Timchenko has been awarded Legion of Honor. 
BTW, Paris annually hosts the Coupe de France finals
BTW, Paris annually hosts the Coupe de France finals
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