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loppa said:
That's what I was thinking. But then the total percent sold out should be higher than what figures suggest - because those games that are at babruysk lower the total capacity of all attended games...
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But they've played in Bobruisk in seasons before, too. So it's not them who decrease the season-to-season attendance.

malkinfan said:
German clubs impressive with attendance, never realized that. Has it always been that way?
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Pretty much. Considering they have Allsvenskan level league hockey is a bit of a phenomenon in Germany in that sense - attendance is very good even though the level of play is probably the lowest of all the professional sports in Germany.
 
Jussi said:
Anyone care to put those numbers/teams in the order of the current tables in their leagues? E.g TPS and Kalpa are 14th and 13th in Finland.
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1. Zürich: 9'005 (80,40%)
2. Fribourg: 6'558 (97,88%)
3. Kloten: 5'564 (73,59%)
4. Davos: 4'710 (66,53%)
5. Lugano: 5'060 (63,25%)
6. Ambri: 5'715 (81,64%)
7. Genève: 7'781 (108,07%)
8. Lausanne: 6'528 (72,53%)
9. Bern: 16'340 (95,38%)
10. Zug: 6'230 (88,81%)
11. Biel: 4'647 (66,39%)
12. Rapperswil: 4'438 (72,75%)
 
Kennel said:
Note: these are completely wrong because Liiga's statistics are terrible and several games have 0 attendance. For example Jokerit is missing three games and their actual average is around 8600.
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Ok thanks, I was a bit worried about Jokerit attendance, I found it really poor.

I hope next year their attendance will still be good.
 
Jussi said:
Anyone care to put those numbers/teams in the order of the current tables in their leagues? E.g TPS and Kalpa are 14th and 13th in Finland.
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It seems numbers for Sm-Liiga are wrong so I'll just do SHL and DEL

SHL:

1.Skelleftea: 5193
2.Frolunda: 9216
3.Vaxjo: 5057
4.Lulea: 5079
5.Modo: 5602
6.Farjestad: 5794
7.Brynas: 5658
8.Leksands: 6517
9.HV71: 6529
10.Linkoping: 6601
11.Orebro: 5055
12.AIK: 4923

DEL:

1.Hamburg: 7954
2.Krefeld: 5269
3.Koln: 11593
4.Mannheim: 11133
5.Ice Tigers: 5026
6.Wolfsburg: 2324
7.Munich: 3590
8.Ingolstadt: 3614
9.Iserlohn: 3740
10.Berlin: 12490
11.Augsburg: 5162
12.Straubing: 4752
13.Schwenninger: 4589
14.Dusseldorf: 5304
 
KHL attendance so far this season:

SKA St-Petersburg: 12220 (99%)
Slovan Bratslava: 10043 (100%)
Medvescak Zagreb: 9992 (100%) boosted because of Ice Fever in Arena Zagreb.
Dinamo Minsk: 9548 (64%)
Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: 8714 (97%)
Avangard Omsk: 8492 (82%)
Salavat Yulaev Ufa: 7806 (95%)
Dinamo Riga: 7732 (75%)
Sibir Novosibirsk: 7228 (96%)
Traktor Chelyabinsk: 7109 (95%)
Amur Khabarovsk: 7052 (99%)
Metallurg Magnitogorsk: 6992 (93%)
Dynamo Moscow: 5717 (67%)
Atlant Moscow Region: 5596 (86%)
Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg: 5466 (98%)
Admiral Vladivostok: 5454 (99%)
Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod: 5356 (96%)
Lev Prague: 5332 (41%)
Ak Bars Kazan: 4953 (56%)
Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk: 4440 (81%)
Barys Astana: 4054 (99%)
CSKA Moscow: 4051 (72%)
Donbass Donetsk: 3792 (92%)
Spartak Moscow: 3574 (65%)
Vityaz Podolsk: 3532 (64%)
Severstal Cherepovets: 3217 (57%)
Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk: 3185 (58%)
Metallurg Novokuznetsk: 2903 (39%)

AVG: 6198 (82%)

I did this using the stats posted earlier in this thread, KHL website (game reports) and Eurohockey.com.

With bigger arenas, new teams arriving, popularity growing, etc. KHL's attendance will increase in the next years. Hopefully around 7k maybe?
 
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Jussi said:
Anyone care to put those numbers/teams in the order of the current tables in their leagues? E.g TPS and Kalpa are 14th and 13th in Finland.
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Results barely have any effect on attendance in Germany. More people will come for special games and during playoffs but apart of that nobody cares if they are 14th (last) or 1st.

For example Cologne has more or less the same attendances as when they were last couple years ago. Düsseldorf is now last and has the same attendance as when they were first etc etc. Same with Augsburg, Wolfsburg etc

But when you guys look at DEL attenfance please consider the huge variation of arena sizes. For example the arena in Cologne has a capacity of 18,500 so arena looks often empty. Straubing and Augsburg on the other side have only 4500 fans or so and its allmost always sold out.
 
punchonico99 said:
KHL attendance so far this season:

SKA St-Petersburg: 12220 (99%)
Slovan Bratslava: 10043 (100%)
Medvescak Zagreb: 9992 (100%) boosted because of Ice Fever in Arena Zagreb.
Dinamo Minsk: 9548 (64%)
Lokomotiv Yaroslavl: 8714 (97%)
Avangard Omsk: 8492 (82%)
Salavat Yulaev Ufa: 7806 (95%)
Dinamo Riga: 7732 (75%)
Sibir Novosibirsk: 7228 (96%)
Traktor Chelyabinsk: 7109 (95%)
Amur Khabarovsk: 7052 (99%)
Metallurg Magnitogorsk: 6992 (93%)
Dynamo Moscow: 5717 (67%)
Atlant Moscow Region: 5596 (86%)
Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg: 5466 (98%)
Admiral Vladivostok: 5454 (99%)
Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod: 5356 (96%)
Lev Prague: 5332 (41%)
Ak Bars Kazan: 4953 (56%)
Neftekhimik Nizhnekamsk: 4440 (81%)
Barys Astana: 4054 (99%)
CSKA Moscow: 4051 (72%)
Donbass Donetsk: 3792 (92%)
Spartak Moscow: 3574 (65%)
Vityaz Podolsk: 3532 (64%)
Severstal Cherepovets: 3217 (57%)
Yugra Khanty-Mansiysk: 3185 (58%)
Metallurg Novokuznetsk: 2903 (39%)

AVG: 6198 (82%)

I did this using the stats posted earlier in this thread, KHL website (game reports) and Eurohockey.com.

With bigger arenas, new teams arriving, popularity growing, etc. KHL's attendance will increase in the next years. Hopefully around 7k maybe?

I'll post KHL's final attendance after the playoffs.
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Thanks for the work. I think it has been said before that the game reports on the KHL website are rounded up in some cases so we don't know the exact numbers but never mind that. Admiral should really use the break to put in the last 2000 seats, I'm sure they can fill them.
 
Domenica said:
Thanks for the work. I think it has been said before that the game reports on the KHL website are rounded up in some cases so we don't know the exact numbers but never mind that. Admiral should really use the break to put in the last 2000 seats, I'm sure they can fill them.
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Yeah they should really do, they can definitely fill 2000 more seats, I think it was a great move by the KHL to put a team in Vladivostok, they seem to be great hockey fans.

I don't remember when I read that, but there were speculations that they were going to build a bigger arena.
 
http://www.iihf.com/home-of-hockey/....html?tx_ttnews[backPid]=955&cHash=fcb26f0ec4

Top 100 Europe:

Top 20:

1. SC Bern (16.347)
2. Eisbären Berlin (12.738)
3. SKA Sankt Peterburg (12.133)
4. Kölner Haie (11.712)
5. Adler Mannheim (11.283)
6. Dinamo Minsk (10.426)
7. Slovan Bratislava (10.013)
8. Frölunda Gothenburg (9.362)
9. Jokerit Helsinki (9.252)
10. ZSC Lions Zurich (9.048)
11. Hamburg Freezers (8.506)
12. Lokomotiv Jaroslavlje (8.404)
13. Dinamo Riga (8.083)
14. HC Pardubice (8.037)
15. Avangard Omsk (8.026)
16. Medveščak Zagreb (7.828)
17. Genève-Servette (7.722)
18. Salavat Julajev Ufa (7.662)
19. Sparta Prag (7.117)
20. Kometa Brno (7.034)


KHL teams in Top 100:

3. SKA Sankt Peterburg (12.133)
6. Dinamo Minsk (10.426)
7. Slovan Bratislava (10.013)
12. Lokomotiv (8.404)
13. Dinamo Riga (8.083)
15. Avangard (8.026)
16. Medveščak Zagreb (7.828)
18. Salavat Julajev (7.662)
21. Amur (7.023)
22. Sibir (6.936)
31. Traktor (6.122)
38. Dinamo Moskva (5.676)
46. Admiral (5.256)
47. Atlant (5.248)
52. Avtomobilist (5.174)
54. Lev Prag (5.139)
69. Metalurg Magnitogorsk (4.566)
71. Neftehimik (4.481)
82. Ak Bars (3.937)
84. Donbas (3.885)
87. Sjeverstalj (3.766)
89. Baris (3.733)
96. Torpedo (3.644)


Not in Top 100:

Vitjaz, Spartak, CSKA, Mettalurg Nk, Jugra :shakehead


League-Attendance:

1. National League A - 6,872
2. Deutsche Eishockey Liga - 6,343
3. Swedish Hockey Liga - 5,978
4. Kontinental Hockey League - 5,812
5. Liiga - 4,974
6. Extraliga(Czech Republic) - 4,948
7. EBEL - 2,935
 
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its embarrassing that CSKA didn´t even make it to the Top100. From Vitjaz, Spartak, Mettalurg Nk and Jugra I didn´t expect more. This 4 teams should be send to VHL if nothing change in next years. They are just dropping the league average attendence + they wasn´t even close to play-off spots. they enrich the league in zero areas.
 
Vicente said:
But teams like Dynamo Moscow and Ak Bars Kazan still can't fill them.

If every Russian team had 18,000 arenas that wouldn't bring them 18,000 fans for the games.
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Some teams would (SKA, SYu, Ava, Amur, Loko)
And I suggest you to have a look at the % of spectators, in many Russian teams it is very high
 
Alessandro Seren Rosso said:
Some teams would (SKA, SYu, Ava, Amur, Loko)
And I suggest you to have a look at the % of spectators, in many Russian teams it is very high
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I thought KHL demanded 14,000+ arenas? :sarcasm: I remember vorky saying KHL wouldn't be interested in teams that didn't have, or was not planning on building such arenas.
 
it is 12k + but i assume the arenas that are 10k like avangards and slovans are still good. i mean it would be dumb to make them build smtn new just to fit in 2k more people
 
Jonimaus said:
I thought KHL demanded 14,000+ arenas? :sarcasm: I remember vorky saying KHL wouldn't be interested in teams that didn't have, or was not planning on building such arenas.
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I believe the figure he was referring to was 12k arenas is the rule. When you look into the future its not so bad

CSKA from 5k to 12k (legends hypothetically)
DYM from 8k to 12k VTB
Donbass from 4k to 13k
Barys 4 to 12k

all of those projects have begun and will be completed within 2 years.

Sibir 7k to 15k
Torpedo from 5k to 15k

are in the planning stages and there was also chatter that SKA was planning a new building. These are baby steps, but slowly, each year the attendance figure will rise. I don't believe that KHL moves into a new team unless there is a plans to build a new arena in the future (exception to Lada).
 
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