Value of: Kevin Fiala and Matt Dumba

[Roof Daddy]

Not a fan of either team, but what about this….

To MIN: 4th OA, Soucy (50% retained)

To SEA: Fiala, Dumba

 

[Smitty426]

Sounds decent. What's Brown like as a player? What do you have in mind as the mid-level prospect.



Minnesota accepts.

Not happening

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

speaking of Fiala....

Most everybody I talk to believes the front runner in the Fiala sweepstakes is New Jersey, for two reasons. One, Fiala looks as if he could be a good fit alongside fellow Swiss player Nico Hischier, a core piece going forward for the Devils. Two, the Devils have the necessary cap space to give Fiala the raise that he’ll need in order to forego free agency and sign a long-term extension. They also have the draft capital/young players needed to make a deal happen.

 

[MNRube]

Not a fan of either team, but what about this….

To MIN: 4th OA, Soucy (50% retained)

To SEA: Fiala, Dumba

Makes sense for MN, but dont see Seattle agreeing to this. T

 

[Golden Gophers 4649]

Fiala to LA for their 1st, Gabe Vilardi and Jarret Anderson Dolan. If you needed an offensive RD Sean Walker could be in there too.

I'm not quite sold on Vilardi. He seems to have taken a step back this year.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

Assuming Letang walks I would be very interested in Dumba.

21OA, Pettersson, 2023 2nd for Dumba?

Pettersson signed for 3 more years but is a serviceable 5D. Wild save $ and get some good picks

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Assuming Letang walks I would be very interested in Dumba.

21OA, Pettersson, 2023 2nd for Dumba?

Pettersson signed for 3 more years but is a serviceable 5D. Wild save $ and get some good picks

Probably not enough cap savings involved in this.

 

[Joseph Nathan]

Minnesota declines dumba trade. Dumba is most likely to be resigned for cheap being he just bought a home in Minnesota and moved in with his fiance. Guerin, wild gm also give a hint he's not moving dumba

 

[Kurrilino]

Faber + Vilardi + 2nd or Faber + 1st

Wild could use a RHD to go with all the LHD in the system and some futures

Kings get a PPG wing who is sure to find a fit with one of Danault, Kopitar, Turcotte or Byfield. Losing Faber stings less with their other RHD options

Fiala is the opposite of what Blake is looking for
He is looking for Size and speed.

If the Kings wanted Fiala, it would have happened at the deadline

Sorry, Fiala would fetch a better return from another team

 

[Bazeek]

Fiala is the opposite of what Blake is looking for
He is looking for Size and speed.

If the Kings wanted Fiala, it would have happened at the deadline

Sorry, Fiala would fetch a better return from another team

He wasn't available at the deadline.

I agree that the Kings aren't a great trade partner here, though.

 

[thestonedkoala]

Stillman, Johnsson, 2nd round pick in 2022 and 2023 for Kevin Fiala

 

[Bazeek]

Stillman, Johnsson, 2nd round pick in 2022 and 2023 for Kevin Fiala

"I traded our ppg winger for one year of Andreas Johsson and a bunch of futures that probably don't play meaningful NHL games," said no GM that wants to keep his job.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

"I traded our ppg winger for one year of Andreas Johsson and a bunch of futures that probably don't play meaningful NHL games," said no GM that wants to keep his job.

This seems to be the template a lot of devils fans are working off of:

There is a contingent of devils’ fans that know what it would take to acquire Fiala, and most of them seem like they are fine passing

 

[thestonedkoala]

"I traded our ppg winger for one year of Andreas Johsson and a bunch of futures that probably don't play meaningful NHL games," said no GM that wants to keep his job.

Or that Johnsson fills in a gap in the top 9, Stillman is a pretty good prospect not Mercer or Holtz and most Minnesota fans want to trust Brackett and get him more picks to work with.

They've picked Khusnutdinov, O'Rourke and Peart out of the second round. While I have been critical, those aren't bad picks.

 

[Bazeek]

This seems to be the template a lot of devils fans are working off of:

There is a contingent of devils’ fans that know what it would take to acquire Fiala, and most of them seem like they are fine passing

I would not put it past Guerin to botch an important trade this badly, but if he thinks the radio interviews are tense now...

I'm more pessimistic than most about what the likely return will be, but there needs to be at least one piece of actual meat in this stew.

 

[Bazeek]

Or that Johnsson fills in a gap in the top 9, Stillman is a pretty good prospect not Mercer or Holtz and most Minnesota fans want to trust Brackett and get him more picks to work with.

They've picked Khusnutdinov, O'Rourke and Peart out of the second round. While I have been critical, those aren't bad picks.

In that recent post-Barreiro interview Guerin as much as says that a.) he's trading Fiala, and b.) part of the upside to that trade will be opening up room for younger players. The "gap" that is being filled by Johnsson is one they've pretty clearly have filled internally, even if they don't want to state it directly. With all that in mind, mid-tier roster players like Johnsson would have negative value here.

More generally, they need to be aiming higher than a yard sale grab box of "not too bad."

 

[Digitalbooya]

In that recent post-Barreiro interview Guerin as much as says that a.) he's trading Fiala, and b.) part of the upside to that trade will be opening up room for younger players. The "gap" that is being filled by Johnsson is one they've pretty clearly have filled internally, even if they don't want to state it directly. With all that in mind, mid-tier roster players like Johnsson would have negative value here.

More generally, they need to be aiming higher than a yard sale grab box of "not too bad."

I think it is Rossi specifically who will be replacing Fiala.

 

[Bazeek]

I think it is Rossi specifically who will be replacing Fiala.

Agreed, which may or may not work as well at they like. But going from Fiala to an ELC seems to be something they've been counting on with the rest of their moves. I strongly doubt they'll have any appetite for a $3m+ stopgap like Johnsson (or Connor Brown or a few other similar names I've seen thrown into these conversations).

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

the problem with the Devils fit re: Fiala is he is not worth 2nd overall.

Whether hes worth Holtz straight up? He very well may be, but most Devils fans probably wouldnt do it.

Past that, its going to be Voltron-type packages that we can offer which the Wild (rightfully) arent going to like

 

[Golden Gophers 4649]

Am I the only Wild fan who feels Guerin's comments about Fiala and Dumba are a smoke screen in hopes of getting more value for Dumba. Dumba played well in the playoffs and he's a warrior but scorers like Fiala are tough to find. Not to mention by 2023-24 the Wild will need roster space for O'Rourke, Hunt, Lambos, Addison etc. meaning Dumba will likely be allowed to walk as a UFA.

 

[IAHockey25]

Am I the only Wild fan who feels Guerin's comments about Fiala and Dumba are a smoke screen in hopes of getting more value for Dumba. Dumba played well in the playoffs and he's a warrior but scorers like Fiala are tough to find. Not to mention by 2023-24 the Wild will need roster space for O'Rourke, Hunt, Lambos, Addison etc. meaning Dumba will likely be allowed to walk as a UFA.

Yes I think you might be the only one who thinks he wants to keep Fiala over Dumba. Can we afford 6x8 even if Dumba is gone?

 

[Nocashstyle]

This seems to be the template a lot of devils fans are working off of:

There is a contingent of devils’ fans that know what it would take to acquire Fiala, and most of them seem like they are fine passing

You do realize that’s a joke tweet, right? They also said this:



They’re just trolling and trying to stir the pot.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Yes I think you might be the only one who thinks he wants to keep Fiala over Dumba. Can we afford 6x8 even if Dumba is gone?

Yes, but a little more work is required. All within reason though.

 

[RedHawkDown]

Really want him in Detroit…

 

[57special]

Stillman, Johnsson, 2nd round pick in 2022 and 2023 for Kevin Fiala

"I traded our ppg winger for one year of Andreas Johsson and a bunch of futures that probably don't play meaningful NHL games," said no GM that wants to keep his job.

Take out an "S" in that offer and I'm down.... I don't think they have a "Tillman".

Am I the only Wild fan who feels Guerin's comments about Fiala and Dumba are a smoke screen in hopes of getting more value for Dumba. Dumba played well in the playoffs and he's a warrior but scorers like Fiala are tough to find. Not to mention by 2023-24 the Wild will need roster space for O'Rourke, Hunt, Lambos, Addison etc. meaning Dumba will likely be allowed to walk as a UFA.

Pretty much, ya. If he is playing that game, then my estimation of him goes way, way up.