GDT: Kent Hughes Press Conference 1pm Eastern (Link Added)

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To be the Bruins we have to start by Having a Bergeron, Marchand, Rask, Chara, prime Lucic etc...
We don't have anything in the team equivalent to any of these players. Your example is awful.

We have absolutely nothing to lose right now if we aim to win a lottery, and Suzuki and Caufield won't stand in the way to 1OA, they surely haven't this year.

We're probably looking at starting the season with the ugliest Defense this team has ever seen, no starting goalie and an empty forward group aside from Suzuki and Caufield.

You're missing the point. Bruins didn't think tank tank tank and they build with what they had drafted and also through trades and UFA signing at the right time. This doesn't help your case at not trading for Dubois. You're context you are throwing back is awful.

Let me guess, Bruins new what they had before they had it? They new Marchand would go from 40-50 pts to pt/game. They new Chara would go from who he was on the Sens to a beast and one of the best shutdown guys. Made the trade to get Rask cause they knew that trade was smart. Dubois is stupid

Sorry bud but I'm on the Hughes and Gorton plan. You're not. You're not debating solely with me, You're against our new management as well. Might as well start throwing them under the bus now

Should have traded Romanov and kept the pick. Dach was stupid cause Nazar will be better and without Dach, we have better chance at tanking?

Starting the season with the ugliest Defense the team has ever had? Empty forward group aside from Suzuki and Caufield? Now you're heading towards exaggeration to prove you're weak point. If you have to exaggerate, you don't have a good point.
 

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I think the reason people aren't as high on dubois right now as you is because we can just get him for free as a UFA.

Won't be for free. It will be for more cap hit than a sign/trade today. Probably looking at $7M vs $9M+ after two years. Time will change things. If the cost to acquire is right, do it now cause I do think you can get him for 7x7. The goal here is to get Caufield locked up to so when the cap jumps forward, we have big parts of the core locked up for prime years (Bruins type salary structure) and others on ELC.

People are also thinking that I'm trading Guhle to get him to which is false. So there is that too. It's a leverage and cost to acquire strategy. If the cost is too high, don't do it. Simple as that and that's probably what Hughes is going through. Jets can drown with Dubois if they don't lower the price.
 

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You're missing the point. Bruins didn't think tank tank tank and they build with what they had drafted and also through trades and UFA signing at the right time. This doesn't help your case at not trading for Dubois. You're context you are throwing back is awful.

Let me guess, Bruins new what they had before they had it? They new Marchand would go from 40-50 pts to pt/game. They new Chara would go from who he was on the Sens to a beast and one of the best shutdown guys.

Sorry bud but I'm on the Hughes and Gorton plan. You're not. You're not debating solely with me, You're against our new management as well.

Should have traded Romanov and kept the pick. Dach was stupid cause Nazar will be better and without Dach, we have better chance at tanking?

Starting the season with the ugliest Defense the team has ever had? Empty forward group aside from Suzuki and Caufield? Now you're heading towards exaggeration to prove you're weak point. If you have to exaggerate, you don't have a good point.
I never said anything against trading for Dubois. I like Dubois and i don't think we're out of a top 5 pick next year even with him.

What are you giving up for him, draft picks? Bad idea.

Look at the Habs stat sheets from last year and tell me we're going to be better in October. The only argument you can possibly make is tell me all the players who havem't shown us anything jn the NHL will take a massive leap forward, which is even more unlikely than the 18% chance for 1OA as the last place team.

I hope you're proud of Edmunston, our likeky 1D next year. I'd love for you to make a valid argument about the roster we're going into next season with.

I'm not going to be for our against Gorton and Hughes regime until they give me a reason to think one way or another, and 1 year ain't nearly enough for that.
 

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I never said anything against trading for Dubois. I like Dubois and i don't think we're out of a top 5 pick next year even with him.

What are you giving up for him, draft picks? Bad idea.

Look at the Habs stat sheets from last year and tell me we're going to be better in October. The only argument you can possibly make is tell me all the players who havem't shown us anything jn the NHL will take a massive leap forward, which is even more unlikely than the 18% chance for 1OA as the last place team.

I hope you're proud of Edmunston, our likeky 1D next year.

I've must have said my offers for Dubois about a hundred times now. I'd consider Dach and Dvorak or Dvorak, Panthers 1st, and Kidney. I prefer the later.

Don't reply with "you won't get him for that". It's a leverage situation like Trouba. If they don't budge, let them drown with Dubois.

* Dvorak is not a building block piece for our future. Logical he goes the other way
* I rather keep Dach but I'd consider it.
* Panthers 1st? Don't trade it cause it's unprotected? It's not going to be a lottery pick. More like around 20th.
* Kidney? He's not going to be a 2C in the NHL. I value what he is doing and I've seen him play a lot. His value may never be as high as today.
 

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I've must have said my offers for Dubois about a hundred times now. I'd consider Dach and Dvorak or Dvorak, Panthers 1st, and Kidney.

Don't reply with "you won't get him for that". It's a leverage situation like Trouba. If they don't budge, let them drown with Dubois.

* Dvorak is not a building block piece for our future. Logical he goes the other way
* I rather keep Dach but I'd consider it.
* Panthers 1st? Don't trade it cause it's unprotected? It's not going to be a lottery pick. More like around 20th.
* Kidney? He's not going to be a 2C in the NHL. I value what he is doing and I've seen him play a lot. His value may never be as high as today.
Man if we can get Dubois for what you offered, i'm gonna go pick him up in WPG myself. Who would be against? Lol.
 
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The person they are thinking of hiring might not be from the recycling pool so it doesn't matter.
Maybe. I’m not the biggest fan of experience over everything, but this is a very young coaching group. A veteran would probably be a smart move.
 
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I would safely say Canadiens end up bottom 4
And If things go wrong like injuries under performing - Gallagher being s hit again with some others - probably bottom 2
I don't think Arizona will be quite as bad as some think

Agreed, we end up bad, real bad. But I think some players, like Gallagher, will bounce back somewhat.

He's a competitor and a long off season gives him the time to heal any wounds and train back in game shape.
 

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Savard was the risky pick at the time. Just sayin’.
Spoke this weekend to a guy that had closely followed Savard in the Q, he told me on draft day he would have picked Wickenheiser because he thought Savard was too slight to transfer his skills in the NHL. And Wickenheiser was the big name before the draft.
 
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I wonder why Brisson even said it... Jets can't be happy about that even if he is allowed to say it.

Well to twist the Jet’s hands and facilitate the transaction his player wants, by reducing the Jet’s leverage (like Trouba did).
 

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We will have another tough year, the D and our goaltending just will not be able to handle the 82 game load.................that said we will be better than bottom 5
I think we will be bottom 10 and have another good pick next year.
 
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Enough with Dubois. He’s Mario Tremblay. You’ll have to give be me viagra to even get excited about him. Maybe get fired up when the next actual star French player comes. Not a second line C which we already have
 
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I'm surprised the Habs have this many holes at this stage with so little cap space -- is all.

Bergevin’s greatest accomplishment: we’re a tanking team that is struggling to field a cap (ceiling) compliant roster

I have the unshakable impression that Hughes regrets taking this job, based on his body language. I'm not sure why, but I've had this feeling since the draft.

Anybody else getting that vibe?

Not at all but this last month he must have put in tons of hours + as much stress as you can imagine with the drafting situation
 

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Spoke this weekend to a guy that had closely followed Savard in the Q, he told me on draft day he would have picked Wickenheiser because he thought Savard was too slight to transfer his skills in the NHL. And Wickenheiser was the big name before the draft.
That's what happened. In hindsight, it's easy to criticize Mtl. But Wick WAS the big star of the W, scored I believe something like 89 goals or something during his draft year? I can't remember the total, but Savard was seen as too frail and too risky.
 
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This is a fair question. Easy to say fans should be patient, but how can a business sell patience?

The good news is that fans will go if the team is marketed correctly. Focus on the young stars of tomorrow and what's being built. Sports is all about hope. I'd watch kids developing, even if they lose, because next season will be better. Better than watching a weak roster of vets that isn't going anywhere.

Agreed, you have to be selling either hope or success.
 

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Savard was the risky pick at the time. Just sayin’.
Michael Farber was on 690 last week and said that he polled the GMs after that draft and 15 would have taken Wick and 6 Dave Babych. In other words, no one was planning on taking Denis Savard first. If the Habs had taken Savard first he would have faced the same pressures/expectations that Wick did, the Habs were in decline, he also would have ended up playing for Jacques Lemaire. His career may have ended up differently (remembering how Guy Lafleur's last few years with the Habs went).

I would just hope that the expectations for Slaf are minimal his first couple of years. He has a whole lot to learn, too many of these high picks get weighed down that way. There are no saviors, Mario Lemieux made the playoffs once in his first six seasons. And that was when 16 of 21 teams made the playoffs. Progression is probably the key word, both for the player and the team.
 

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Au contraire

Price will not give up tens of millions and retire. He will rest his head on Robidas Island LTIR and every summer we have to juggle his enormous caphit and Molson will have to send him his enormous yearly bonus.

I think Hugues would be fine with that, it's the uncertainty that's killing us
 

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Bergevins plan was simple, to continue *Da Plan* , a legendary plan set in place by fan favorite Michelle Therrien. The originator of the true original plan. Therrien walked so Bergevin could run never forget this
 

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I thought the last place team getting the first overall pick is not considered winning the lottery as they never moved up to get it. No lottery win rules apply to Habs (yet)?
I think that's incorrect, since they won the lottery, but I may be mistaken. I thought the new rule was based on how many lottery wins, not how many times you move up.
 

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I'm surprised the Habs have this many holes at this stage with so little cap space -- is all.

What I can't get my head around is that we just traded away Toffoli, Chiarot, Lehkonen, Kulak and Weber's contract, but are still tight against the cap. I know we added Dadonov, but we'd be in such a cap hell without last year's firesale.
 
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