GDT: Kent Hughes Press Conference 1pm Eastern (Link Added)

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I have the unshakable impression that Hughes regrets taking this job, based on his body language. I'm not sure why, but I've had this feeling since the draft.

Anybody else getting that vibe?

Not that he regrets it per se, but I can definitely feel he has some frustrations. I have a feeling that not all the moves and decisions are his and its part of the frustration. It seems to be draining him.

 

[BLONG7]

Regarding Price contract, I would certainly forbid any contract from having more than 50% in bonuses. 70 millions and just 14 millions in salary is a joke, you give players guaranteed contract and you can’t even buy them out, ridiculous. Can’t believe Bergevin gave him that on top of the salary and term.

Even 8 years guaranteed contracts are way too much imo…

Agreed, but in this case, the agent had ALL the leverage. There are other circumstances, where the agent drives the bus, not the team..............
A guy like Stamkos in TB did the same...........it happens.

 

[KFlint]

Agreed, but in this case, the agent had ALL the leverage. There are other circumstances, where the agent drives the bus, not the team..............
A guy like Stamkos in TB did the same...........it happens.

Yeah, you are right, but I hope the next CBA fixes that.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Carey Price doesn't owe you his career.

The entire industry owes their existence to their fans, so in a sense he does.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Not that he regrets it per se, but I can definitely feel he has some frustrations. I have a feeling that not all the moves and decisions are his and its part of the frustration. It seems to be draining him.

I had this impression in a flash too now that you mention it.

In the PC with Lecavalier, he also mentions something to the effect that it's not just about who he prefer, but everyone.

And his weird "gaze in the void" interview at the draft.

Plus I was convinced Jeff Gorton preferred Slafkovsky in a random interview he gave a few months back, when he named him without being asked along with Wright (Wright was part of the question).

Strange

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I think that's incorrect, since they won the lottery, but I may be mistaken. I thought the new rule was based on how many lottery wins, not how many times you move up.

A lottery win doesn't count towards the limit if the team doesn't move up in the draft order. You could finish last every year and win the lottery every year without affecting the limit of 2 per 5.

 

[morhilane]

I had this impression in a flash too now that you mention it.

In the PC with Lecavalier, he also mentions something to the effect that it's not just about who he prefer, but everyone.

And his weird "gaze in the void" interview at the draft.

Plus I was convinced Jeff Gorton preferred Slafkovsky in a random interview he gave a few months back, when he named him without being asked along with Wright (Wright was part of the question).

Strange

Have you seen how Hughes looked at Slafkovsky at the draft? He was 100% Hughes's choice.

I think his frustration is more about trading Petry. It's taking more time than he hoped.

 

[Weltschmerz]

A lottery win doesn't count towards the limit if the team doesn't move up in the draft order. You could finish last every year and win the lottery every year without affecting the limit of 2 per 5.

Where did you get this from? Not saying you are wrong but the NHL news article didn't mention anything like that.
ESPN is understnading it like you did, but Sportsnet says whoever wins can't win more than once again in the next 3 years.

 

[jrom]

Have you seen how Hughes looked at Slafkovsky at the draft? He was 100% Hughes's choice.

I think his frustration is more about trading Petry. It's taking more time than he hoped.

Frustration is the Carey Price saga, it is handcuffing then.

 

[morhilane]

Frustration is the Carey Price saga, it is handcuffing then.

That too.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Where did you get this from? Not saying you are wrong but the NHL news article didn't mention anything like that.
ESPN is understnading it like you did, but Sportsnet says whoever wins can't win more than once again in the next 3 years.

The new draft rules were given in more details in a PR communiqué which is hard to find with a simple google search.

It clearly states that teams cannot move up the draft by way of lottery win, more than twice in 5 years.

Edit: searched back in older threads and found the link:

https://media.nhl.com/public/news/14767

"No single team will be able to advance in the Draft order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw more than two (2) times in any five (5) year period."

it's not a simple tally of lottery wins, but a tally of advancing by lottery wins.

 

[Weltschmerz]

The new draft rules were given in more details in a PR communiqué which is hard to find with a simple google search.

It clearly states that teams cannot move up the draft by way of lottery win, more than twice in 5 years.

Edit: searched back in older threads and found the link:

https://media.nhl.com/public/news/14767

"No single team will be able to advance in the Draft order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw more than two (2) times in any five (5) year period."

it's not a simple tally of lottery wins, but a tally of advancing by lottery wins.

Thx for digging.

 

[Habs Halifax]

We put up with Bergevin for 10 years...................we can handle the Price situation.
Patience is a virtue....

Read yesterday that Price is going to get a 2nd PRP shot in about a month. Wondering how this ends up cause most of us are thinking he is done. Small chance he is not but most of us are too afraid to talk about that possibility.

The new draft rules were given in more details in a PR communiqué which is hard to find with a simple google search.

It clearly states that teams cannot move up the draft by way of lottery win, more than twice in 5 years.

Edit: searched back in older threads and found the link:

https://media.nhl.com/public/news/14767

"No single team will be able to advance in the Draft order by reason of winning a Lottery Draw more than two (2) times in any five (5) year period."

it's not a simple tally of lottery wins, but a tally of advancing by lottery wins.

So if I understand this correctly, the Habs getting 1st OA this past draft don't count?

Frustration is the Carey Price saga, it is handcuffing then.

I think one way or another, we will know this year.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Read yesterday that Price is going to get a 2nd PRP shot in about a month. Wondering how this ends up cause most of us are thinking he is done. Small chance he is not but most of us are too afraid to talk about that possibility.



So if I understand this correctly, the Habs getting 1st OA this past draft don't count?



I think one way or another, we will know this year.

Nope it doesn't.

Finishing last has a lot of perks. Assured top 3 pick, and assured no added lottery wins gets tallied.

 

[Lshap]

I have the unshakable impression that Hughes regrets taking this job, based on his body language. I'm not sure why, but I've had this feeling since the draft.

Anybody else getting that vibe?

I'm personally not seeing that or getting that vibe. I'm pretty sure he knew what he was getting into and I also think he paid attention to how Bergevin managed things poorly and is avoiding it in terms of how he manages the media.

Not that he regrets it per se, but I can definitely feel he has some frustrations. I have a feeling that not all the moves and decisions are his and its part of the frustration. It seems to be draining him.

Have you seen how Hughes looked at Slafkovsky at the draft? He was 100% Hughes's choice.

I think his frustration is more about trading Petry. It's taking more time than he hoped.

Frustration is the Carey Price saga, it is handcuffing then.

Since we're all projecting what Hughes is thinking, here's my take: I think this guy is a natural in front of the media and very deliberately affects whatever tone helps him. Unlike Bergevin, he doesn't want to come across as an alpha-male. He'd rather project indecision and frustration, even though he knows exactly what he's aiming for. He's shown the ability to make calculated moves without regard for fan expectations or media bias. I'm sure he'll do the same with Petry and Price. He'll play the part of an overburdened manager, then suddenly the deals will be done.

He's not Lex Luthor, just a good negotiator who understands his audience.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Nope it doesn't.

Finishing last has a lot of perks. Assured top 3 pick, and assured no added lottery wins gets tallied.

It's a good thing yeah but I don't expect the Habs to win multiple lotteries with the pieces we have in place. Might apply to the Coyotes and now the Blackhawks more than us.

I'm hoping (preying) that we finish 5-10 range but win the lottery. We have a team in a positive direction with good development a strong pool and we hit at 30% (+/-) chance with picks from 5-10 range.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Since we're all projecting what Hughes is thinking, here's my take: I think this guy is a natural in front of the media and very deliberately affects whatever tone helps him. Unlike Bergevin, he doesn't want to come across as an alpha-male. He'd rather project indecision and frustration, even though he knows exactly what he's aiming for. He's shown the ability to make calculated moves without regard for fan expectations or media bias. I'm sure he'll do the same with Petry and Price. He'll play the part of an overburdened manager, then suddenly the deals will be done.

He's not Lex Luthor, just a good negotiator who understands his audience.

I'm not projecting his thinking, but emphaticaly trying to sense his emotions through his facial expressions, body language and tone.

 

[Lshap]

I'm not projecting his thinking, but emphaticaly trying to sense his emotions through his facial expressions, body language and tone.

Sure, that's what we're all doing.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

The entire industry owes their existence to their fans, so in a sense he does.

You know what I mean and if you actually think it means Carey Price should even entertain quitting hockey if he wants to keep going because of our cap, you're delusional.

 

[angusyoung]

Have you seen how Hughes looked at Slafkovsky at the draft? He was 100% Hughes's choice.

I think his frustration is more about trading Petry. It's taking more time than he hoped.

A lot of teams are stymied at present,little to none to over the cap and to make a move requires at this juncture multiple moves. Many top names out there but no one has money. Perhaps some teams might do what Vegas did and dump to make room for what they want

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You know what I mean and if you actually think it means Carey Price should even entertain quitting hockey if he wants to keep going because of our cap, you're delusional.

No i don't believe that, it still doesn't make your own assertion valid

 

[Spring in Fialta]

No i don't believe that, it still doesn't make your own assertion valid

Holy shit - are you only able to think in the 1st degree?

What I'm saying is obvious - a player shouldn't retire because a fan doesn't like their team's cap situation. It's not that hard. It has absolutely nothing to do with whether fans sustain the league and ultimately, player jobs.

Your gotcha attempt has to be one of the dumbest I have ever witnessed.

 

[DAChampion]

Read yesterday that Price is going to get a 2nd PRP shot in about a month. Wondering how this ends up cause most of us are thinking he is done. Small chance he is not but most of us are too afraid to talk about that possibility.



So if I understand this correctly, the Habs getting 1st OA this past draft don't count?



I think one way or another, we will know this year.

PRP?

Platelet rich plasma?

Lots of people think that doesn't do shit.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Holy shit - are you only able to think in the 1st degree?

What I'm saying is obvious - a player shouldn't retire because a fan doesn't like their team's cap situation. It's not that hard.

Your gotcha attempt has to be one of the dumbest I have ever witnessed.

It's not about degree, just a bad argument as the assertion isn't true. I get your point, but you could say this differently without resorting to a bad argumentation.

It also belies the reality where a player might actually feel this way which is entirely possible. We come in all shapes and sizes.

There's no gotcha, so you can stop playing the victim. I simply think you used a bad argument. Deal with it or not and move on.

 

[Habs Halifax]

PRP?

Platelet rich plasma?

Lots of people think that doesn't do shit.

Yes, that's what it is. I never heard of it before until I saw Price get his fist injection. His issue is weird with the swelling so my guess is PRP affects each person differently. You never know if it works on Price.

However, like Hughes said... we won't know until Price gets on the ice again. I think he clearly can still play but he wants to play with discomfort. Kind of like Tiger playing golf right now... can't play to the level he wants to play at.

We have to consider that Price would have played more games last year if not for a tank season. They had not incentive for him to play and him on LTIR helped accumulate accrued cap space for the deadline. Things you do once you fall to the bottom. I think they do have plans of him playing 40-50 games but it's fluid