Value of: Keith to Edmonton

[Paralyzer]

Endowment effect much. You act like Keith and Pulj/Yamo/Nurse don’t belong in same sentence. Reality is you dont get top 4 D with Keith’s pedigree for dog**** Chia signed to absurd deals

So with this statement, is Chara worth that much too? Why don't you do a Chara for Keith swap then?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

So with this statement, is Chara worth that much too? Why don't you do a Chara for Keith swap then?

One is 41, the other is not.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Toews is off table.

You realize buddy wanted McDavid, right?

We never asked for Toews, the guy just casually floated him out and said ‘maybe McDavid or Drai comes back’.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So with this statement, is Chara worth that much too? Why don't you do a Chara for Keith swap then?

After all why wouldn’t we want to trade our 23 year old top four defenceman for a 35 year old top four defenceman?

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

Of course, but if Keith could be acquired for a reasonable cost...it may make sense.

Oh I know it would make sense. What I mean is, this smells like some good ol' bait for trolling.

 

[Paralyzer]

After all why wouldn’t we want to trade our 23 year old top four defenceman for a 35 year old top four defenceman?

Because 1 has 'pedigree' and the other doesn't. What part of PED-I-GREE do you not understand?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Oh I know it would make sense. What I mean is, this smells like some good ol' bait for trolling.

I’m pretty sure the thread was born out of an unconfirmed rumour from earlier today that Chiarelli asked about the price to get Keith.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Because 1 has 'pedigree' and the other doesn't. What part of PED-I-GREE do you not understand?

Well hot damn let’s sign us Jagr and deal him for DeBrincat! How many cups has DeBrincat won, HMMMM?

 

[Paralyzer]

One is 41, the other is not.

But they both have pedigree and they both have won a lot of trophies and would be 'Edmonton's best defender'. So why wouldn't you do it?

 

[Mr Tadakichi]

I’m pretty sure the thread was born out of an unconfirmed rumour from earlier today that Chiarelli asked about the price to get Keith.

Oh God, please don't be true.

 

[Paralyzer]

Well hot damn let’s sign us Jagr and deal him for DeBrincat! How many cups has DeBrincat won, HMMMM?

Got me there. No pedigree in this player. Might as well fold.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Well hot damn let’s sign us Jagr and deal him for DeBrincat! How many cups has DeBrincat won, HMMMM?

Sorry, you wanted Benson. No thanks.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

But they both have pedigree and they both have won a lot of trophies and would be 'Edmonton's best defender'. So why wouldn't you do it?

Can tell math is not your strong suit

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Sorry, you wanted Benson. No thanks.

If you went back far enough you’d see me having myself quite a little shit fit in HFOilers draft day thread that we drafted Benson when DeBrincat was still available.

In our mock draft I picked DeBrincat 30th overall. In no way shape or form did I want Benson (who will be an NHLer, not saying he’s bad) over DeBrincat.

 

[Seachd]

Sorry, you wanted Benson. No thanks.

“You”...

What exactly were you expecting when you started this thread? What do you think the Oilers should trade for Keith and why do you think that’s not a terrifying contract?

 

[Paralyzer]

Can tell math is not your strong suit

How? I didn't even say a number in that sentence. Are you a wizard?

 

[Toews2Bickell]

What exactly were you expecting when you started this thread? What do you think the Oilers should trade for Keith and why do you think that’s not a terrifying contract?

Realistic proposals. Not Lucic or Sekera.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

How? I didn't even say a number in that sentence. Are you a wizard?

Hawks would do Seabrook for Chara.

 

[Seachd]

Realistic proposals. Not Lucic or Sekera.

Such as? You seem to be unfamiliar with the cap. You’ve already suggested Chicago could retain for 4 and a half years. Does that seem “realistic” to you?

 

[Paralyzer]

Realistic proposals. Not Lucic or Sekera.

Well you definitely failed that already in this thread. Let's pack it up boys!

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Realistic proposals. Not Lucic or Sekera.

That IS what’s realistic for Edmonton. You’d absolutely have to take one of them back for this to make sense.

There’s actually some sense in Sekera+ for you, too. He’s only got 2 years left after this year vs four more for Keith.

Something like Sekera+Yamamoto+2nd for Keith and the lesser Sikura might be do-able. Don’t know if I love it though.

 

[Paralyzer]

That IS what’s realistic for Edmonton. You’d absolutely have to take one of them back for this to make sense.

There’s actually some sense in Sekera+ for you, too. He’s only got 2 years left after this year vs four more for Keith.

And I'm the one being labelled as "math isn't my strong suit"

 

[Toews2Bickell]

Such as? You seem to be unfamiliar with the cap. You’ve already suggested Chicago could retain for 4 and a half years. Does that seem “realistic” to you?

How is it not realistic if thats what it takes to maximize the return...its 2.75m per...

 

[Toews2Bickell]

That IS what’s realistic for Edmonton. You’d absolutely have to take one of them back for this to make sense.

There’s actually some sense in Sekera+ for you, too. He’s only got 2 years left after this year vs four more for Keith.

Something like Sekera+Yamamoto+2nd for Keith and the lesser Sikura might be do-able. Don’t know if I love it though.

Hawks don’t need cap savings. They need a return worth a damn...

 

[ChaoticOrange]

And I'm the one being labelled as "math isn't my strong suit"

Hahah. To a point I get what he’s saying but preferring 2.75 mil of dead cap for four years vs being free and clear after 2 years when you’re ready to compete again doesn’t make a ton of sense to me.