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Kasperi Kapanen (Aberg/J Lindgren) Traded to Pittsburgh (15OV/Hallander/E Rod/Warf to Toronto)

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I think the best comparable for Kappy is prime Hagelin tbh. Speedy, little more physical and nooooo finish.

So, maybe you see Zucker - Malkin - Kapanen really take off actually.
 
Big Friggin Dummy said:
I still don't know that Kapanen's gonna fit with Sid. The speed's there, the potential for solid offensive numbers are there, but it's a crapshoot whether or not his IQ drives Sid insane and Kapanen's on the 3rd line a month into next season. Which, again, isn't the worst thing in the world. The 3rd line's in need of some speed and offensive ability in its own right, and I'd gladly move Hornqvist now to see what we could get.

A McCann-Bennett-Kapanen 3rd line looks like it could be either really good, or fall flat on its face.
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I think KK has a higher IQ than Rust... and Rust has learned how to play with Crosby and Malkin.

So there is a positive thought I can give out.
 
I've lost complete faith in Rutherford.

Trading a 15th overall pick in a stacked draft for a borderline top-six winger that couldn't produce on a stacked Leaf's team and some leftovers. I'm not typically pessimistic, but at the very least when all things go wrong in 2021, hopefully it'll mean Rutherford is leaving.
 
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Speaking Moistly said:
It doesn’t matter which, knowing the Pens whoever they keep will immediately get injured.


In all seriousness, I don’t trust his idea of a significant deal. We’ll probably end up with E Staal and someone else from his past.
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LOL if we get a Staal and its not Jordan, I'm done
 
I’m fine with the trade if it spells the end of Sheary. An immediate upgrade. That being said, the prospect of not having a first round pick for the next two years with an aging core is worrisome. Unless, if Rutherford can acquire one via a Murray trade.

The problem of the backend is still a significant problem that needs to be addressed. That, and some much needed grit and size.
 
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Speaking Moistly said:
In all seriousness, I don’t trust his idea of a significant deal. We’ll probably end up with E Staal and someone else from his past.
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I'd be shocked at this point were it not the case.

This is what I start doing when I've run out of ideas, too. Rehash old ones with some new window dressing.
 
One thing I'm interested in seeing is whether Kapanen is used as the left half wall PP option on the top unit now. He definitely has the shot and hands to work well in the role, so if he wants to be a pure triggerman for that spot, I think that could work well. I think a reason we didn't see Rust on that unit was because Sullivan didn't want to strain Rust too much with that much ice time, but you can probably split that top unit ice time between Rust and Kapanen (with one getting significant PP time and one getting significant PK time) to keep both of them at manageable levels.

Coming into this off-season, I think the Penguins had 3 huge holes: 3C, 3rd pair RD and top-6 RWer. They filled one of those with this trade, albeit a super overpayment with that. I imagine we'll see McCann and Murray go out for the other 2 holes.
 
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sovietsanta87 said:
Everyone liked Hallander while simultaneously not knowing a whole lot about him. His highlight tape looked good (as it is supposed to) but it is obvious the scouts feel he would not help this team now or at any point during the Crosby/Malkin era. Same goes for the 15th pick. I get that this is a deep draft but it seems after the first few picks, the rest of the draft prospects will need a few years to develop. That doesnt help right now.

If you wait to build a team that can be good three years from now, you've already wait too long. JR has made some really bad moves...maybe this will be another one. But the attitude from some of you makes me laugh. You legitimately think you know better than the GM and the scouts have no idea what they are doing.
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The GM signed Jack Johnson...I rest my case...
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
One thing I'm interested in seeing is whether Kapanen is used as the left half wall PP option on the top unit now. He definitely has the shot and hands to work well in the role, so if he wants to be a pure triggerman for that spot, I think that could work well. I think a reason we didn't see Rust on that unit was because Sullivan didn't want to strain Rust too much with that much ice time, but you can probably split that top unit ice time between Rust and Kapanen (with one getting significant PP time and one getting significant PK time) to keep both of them at manageable levels.

Coming into this off-season, I think the Penguins had 3 huge holes: 3C, 3rd pair RD and top-6 RWer. They filled one of those with this trade, albeit a super overpayment with that. I imagine we'll see McCann and Murray go out for the other 2 holes.
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You're drunk if you think Kapanen has the hands to be on the power play.
 
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This seems exactly like the Reeves trade in that GMJR said "this is the guy no matter what" and then gave up whatever the other GM asked for to get him. Hopefully it works out better.
 
Jesse said:
What evidence to you have to suggest that because three of his four years in the league have been below replacement-level. That doesn't scream "top six" to me.
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How was Kapanen "below replacement level" last year? And Kapanen only has 2 full seasons in the NHL and a half year as a 3rd/4th liner.
 
Maybe I just missed a lot of the good games but Kap does not at all strike me as nearly effective enough of a shooter to stick on your top powerplay. In fact I would say he has accuracy problems, for sure.
 
Return of the Paek said:
I came here to see the always-measured reaction to the Pens trades and I was not disappointed. Right or wrong, the Pens obviously like Kasperi better than a lot of us and some in the analytics community. At this point, JR—after two cups—has every right to burn this franchise to the ground. Show some respect everyone.
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so glad you dropped by to contribute nothing else other than haha you guys are upset
 
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The odds that 15oa becomes as good or better than Kapanen is very small.

The chance that it happens and is actually helpful in our championship window is miniscule.

i dont know enough about Lindgren to know if him for Hallander makes sense. But i think everyone is overrating Hallander judging by the vitriol.
 
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