Kasperi Kapanen (Aberg/J Lindgren) Traded to Pittsburgh (15OV/Hallander/E Rod/Warf to Toronto)

[sovietsanta87]

Kapanen in the last 2 years: 0.75 goals/60, 1.90 points/60 at 5v5
Zucker from age 25-27: 0.93 goals/60, 1.93 points/60 at 5v5

I'm sorry but the HF mob has spoken...JR BAD....JR SMASH

 

[Empoleon8771]

15th overall pick and a solid prospect for a 40 point winger is overpayment.

We don't have any 1st round picks until 2022 and KK isn't that much of an upgrade over what we have currently. Can always find a speedy 40pt winger in free agency.

This trade lowered my faith in JR.

If Tanev is costing $3.5 million in free agency, you're likely paying Kapanen $5 million in free agency to sign him.

 

[Gurglesons]

The more I think about it, the more I think people are overreacting to JR overpaying. JR overpaid by including Hallander, that's about it. If the deal was just a 1st, Rodrigues and Warsofsky for Kapanen, Lindgren and Aberg, I think it would have been fine. It sucks that JR overpaid, especially because Hallander looks like a pretty solid prospect, but overpaying with a Hallander caliber prospect isn't going to ruin this team. The team is better for the short run with Kapanen than if they would have kept the 1st.

I think my main issue is you could have gotten a better player for a 1st and this is the initial stage of a GM losing his shit and making reactionary moves.

Or you get a third line RW and move out the 1st and JJ.

 

[pensfan71]

Personally, I also think everyone including myself is upset about the 1st being included because we have this impression it COULD turn into a Barzal or Karlsson. But there's a much higher chance that it won't. Also if the following is true then I get why we traded Hallander

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think my main issue is you could have gotten a better player for a 1st and this is the initial stage of a GM losing his shit and making reactionary moves.

I was expecting that Domi would cost #15 and Hallander, but after comparing Domi and Kapanen, I'm not sure there's a huge difference between the two. The only big difference is that Domi had that 1 insane year, but Domi outside of that year looks fairly comparable to Kapanen.

 

[domaug]

The more I think about it, the more I think people are overreacting to JR overpaying. JR overpaid by including Hallander, that's about it. If the deal was just a 1st, Rodrigues and Warsofsky for Kapanen, Lindgren and Aberg, I think it would have been fine. It sucks that JR overpaid, especially because Hallander looks like a pretty solid prospect, but overpaying with a Hallander caliber prospect isn't going to ruin this team. The team is better for the short run with Kapanen than if they would have kept the 1st.

oh goodness it's not like we think the franchise is going to fold tomorrow, it's just shitty asset management. and with a GM who's had many terrible bouts of asset management, it all adds up and ultimately hurts the team.

 

[PensandCaps]

I'm sorry but the HF mob has spoken...JR BAD....JR SMASH

Is anyone denying Kap is good?

JR is bad because he traded Kahun for nothing, and now he's trading everything for a guy who he basically already had in Kahun.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Again, can't reiterate enough. We were the 7th best team in the league this year. A few playoff flops doesn't mean that we're suddenly past being a contender. We have as good a chance as anyone to win a cup. We really do.

The Shero/Bylsma teams were regular season wonders too. Until things change in the post season, we're not anything close to a contender, and haven't been since the Caps series. A multi-year, steady, downward trend where we barely made the playoffs last season only to get swept in embarrassing fashion by the Isles in the 1st round, followed by a gentleman's sweep at the hands of Montreal in a play-in round before the playoffs even started.

Shit's broken.

 

[Dessloch]

This is just the beginning folks, just sit back and wait for the fireworks that are coming up! Rutherford is out of control, and nobody is stopping him

 

[OswaldBates]

Personally, I also think everyone including myself is upset about the 1st being included because we have this impression it COULD turn into a Barzal or Karlsson. But there's a much higher chance that it won't. Also if the following is true then I get why we traded Hallander

NO !!!!!!!!!!!! Hallander is Wayne Gretzky 2.0

 

[pensfan71]

I was expecting that Domi would cost #15 and Hallander, but after comparing Domi and Kapanen, I'm not sure there's a huge difference between the two. The only big difference is that Domi had that 1 insane year, but Domi outside of that year looks fairly comparable to Kapanen.

Personally I'd also rather have Kap. Domi seems like a great player but seriously has struggled and I'm really not sure if he can hit that ceiling of 72 points again and I'd rather not pay him 5M off that

 

[domaug]

Is anyone denying Kap is good?

JR is bad because he traded Kahun for nothing, and now he's trading everything for a guy who he basically already had in Kahun.

bingo. i don't think anyone reasonable is saying Kapanen is bad. but many are saying it's a bad trade because he overpaid.

 

[Pancakes]

I think my main issue is you could have gotten a better player for a 1st and this is the initial stage of a GM losing his shit and making reactionary moves.

Or you get a third line RW and move out the 1st and JJ.

Could we, though? To get a player higher quality than Kapanen for a first it usually means you're getting a rental. I don't think you get a player with term better than KK for a mid round first. It's guys like Zucker, Pageau, etc.

 

[PensandCaps]

I was expecting that Domi would cost #15 and Hallander, but after comparing Domi and Kapanen, I'm not sure there's a huge difference between the two. The only big difference is that Domi had that 1 insane year, but Domi outside of that year looks fairly comparable to Kapanen.

The main Difference is that Domi has multiple 40 point years. Kap just one.

Also Domi plays a waaay better offensive zone game that meshes really well with Sid. Good down low, Kap is not.

 

[OswaldBates]

This is just the beginning folks, just sit back and wait for the fireworks that are coming up! Rutherford is out of control, and nobody is stopping him

Yep Sure Morehouse, Mario & Burkle aare just letting him run amok

 

[domaug]

NO !!!!!!!!!!!! Hallander is Wayne Gretzky 2.0

the Penguins are not going to hire you. give it up.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

lol... Pens fans and journos are so super obsessed with skating. It just strikes me as parroting.

This is literally the first I've heard of Hallander's skating being a legit problem. Seems convenient.

 

[Turin]

Personally, I also think everyone including myself is upset about the 1st being included because we have this impression it COULD turn into a Barzal or Karlsson. But there's a much higher chance that it won't. Also if the following is true then I get why we traded Hallander

People love prospects, especially European ones. They’re magic beans. Sometimes it works, usually it doesn’t. I do know that the guys who traded Hallander away knew a lot more about him than I do. That’s not to say they didn’t make a mistake in dealing him, it is to say that I don’t know.

 

[dogthateats]

Personally, I also think everyone including myself is upset about the 1st being included because we have this impression it COULD turn into a Barzal or Karlsson. But there's a much higher chance that it won't. Also if the following is true then I get why we traded Hallander

 

[Empoleon8771]

The main Difference is that Domi has multiple 40 point years. Kap just one.

Also Domi plays a waaay better offensive zone game that meshes really well with Sid. Good down low, Kap is not.

Kapanen has been a full time NHLer for 2 years, one year he had 44 points and the other year he was on pace for 43.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

Posters here shit their Underroos with regularity

Judging from the last couple playoff showings, those underoo shittings are justified

 

[OswaldBates]

the Penguins are not going to hire you. give it up.

NO ????????????????????????? REALLY !!!! DAMN & what team do you work for?

 

[PensandCaps]

basically Kakun/Hallander/15th oa/ For Kapenen.

 

[OswaldBates]

Judging from the last couple playoff showings, those underoo shittings are justified

yes those back to back SC's were just f***ing awful

 

[Pancakes]

The Shero/Bylsma teams were regular season wonders too. Until things change in the post season, we're not anything close to a contender, and haven't been since the Caps series. A multi-year, steady, downward trend where we barely made the playoffs last season only to get swept in embarrassing fashion by the Isles in the 1st round, followed by a gentleman's sweep at the hands of Montreal in a play-in round before the playoffs even started.

Shit's broken.

Things can change in the post season on a dime. We were embarrassing in the post season before Sullivan took over, and then we rattled off two cups.

You know when things don't change in the post season? When you're a bad team. When you're a good team that is just falling short in the playoffs, things can change. Look at us, look at the Caps. When you're a middling team that makes the playoffs and bows out early, then yeah, things might not change.

We are not that team. We continue to be an elite team in the regular season, and as long as we are that, we have the potential to carry that play into the playoffs. I won't think our days of contention are over until we stop being a dominant regular season team. As long as you can be that, you have a chance to win a cup.