Kasperi Kapanen (Aberg/J Lindgren) Traded to Pittsburgh (15OV/Hallander/E Rod/Warf to Toronto)

[Gurglesons]

Hallander is a big add. But like I said, Kapanen is probably what you hope the 15 OA turns into anyways, right?

I know some people have dreams bigger than that, and Jesse seems pretty high on this draft in general, so maybe I'm off base there.

No. 15th overall is a huge pick in one of the deepest drafts we’ve seen recently. Think more like a Brandon Saad at 15th overall.

And Kapanen is more of the same, speedy 30-40 pt winger that has tunnel vision and PKs.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

Aberg in the KHL next season and should be a UFA after that.

Yeah, He's already committed to the KHL, so this was a useless piece.

 

[dogthateats]

We could have picked up Aberg for free off of waivers a few times.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I was secretly hoping this, that it was a mistaken identity.

Yep. Same.

 

[Shrimper]

To trade;

Johnson
Murray
Bjugstad

Next

 

[T1K]

We do know that Kahun is going to be good, and we trwded him for nothing. while we give up a 15th and Hallander for Kapenen.

So we trade Kahun, who's better than Kap, for scraps.

But give up a ton for Kapenen.

Just terrible asset management

Kahun is not better than Kapanen

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Roughly half of 15OAs in the last decade have been in the NHL by D+2 and the majority hit.

And even if we were trading it, what Kapanen brings is about the last thing we need here, and there was a bunch of other crap we could have used that 1st and Hallander for.

Basically... no.

KK brings a lot of what this team needs and will definitely help them.

For the 15th overall and a promising prospect... I dunno.

I’m trying to process this and offer a rational take, but I’m annoyed right now TBTH.

KK brings a lot to the table and this board will love him, then hate him, love, hate.. thrill, frustrate.

 

[PensandCaps]

go talk to Sid, he wants & gets who he wants on his line & Kahun wasn't one of the chosen ones

Lol you think he wants Kap?

Sid isn't GM.

and There is a thing called depth. Kahun was very good on line 3 and with Malkin.

Kapenen won't play with Sid. Most likely with Geno or line 3/4

 

[canadianguy77]

Kapanen's a top-6 forward in the eyes of JR.

But is he in Sullivan's eyes? I want him to be, but I doubt it. We'll end up with Dominik-Single-Digit-Goals-Simon getting those minutes.

 

[PensandCaps]

Kahun is not better than Kapanen

Meh. they're both even at worst.

another case of JR wanting a former Penguin.

 

[ronduguayshair]

Kapanen is already the player that the Pens would be hoping to get with the 15th overall pick. We're running short on time for Crosby and Malkin to still be productive, elite, players. Why not maximize it while we still can?

Yes our farm system is trash. It will continue to be. The bottom will fall out at some point. Keeping mid firsts is not going to forestall that process unless we're getting Giroux or Getzlaf level steals in those slots.

I agree that Kapanen is better than a 15th in a vaccum.

 

[domaug]

to clarify: Aberg, Warsofsky, and Rodrigues are nothing pieces. i won't even waste the energy to consider their value in this deal.

IMO it's #15 and Hallander for Kapanen and Lindgren. that is a sharp overpayment IMO. even if you think #15 for Kapanen is perfectly fair (i think the #15 pick has just a hair more value but that's just me), Hallander is significantly more valuable than Lindgren.

 

[Peat]

Aberg in the KHL next season and should be a UFA after that.

Cool, time to get get more comfortably numb then.

Hallander is a big add. But like I said, Kapanen is probably what you hope the 15 OA turns into anyways, right?

I know some people have dreams bigger than that, and Jesse seems pretty high on this draft in general, so maybe I'm off base there.

You're off base. You *hope* 15OA is Dylan Larkin or Erik Karlsson.

You're thinking if you pick right its JT Miller or Pulock or Brannstrom.

You accept that if it's a bit meh it's going to be someone like Kapanen.

Kapanen's got a fair bit to do to get up to Miller.

 

[disgruntleddave]

Where do you guys think he'll play in your lineup?

Leafs fan here. He won't be with crosby cause he's not a grinder or very creative. Probably not Malkin too for similar reasons. Is he slotting on your third line and on PK?

If he brings his mean and hitting game consistently he's a much better player than he often showed on the leafs, but still best suited on the 3rd line I assume.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

Pens window is now. All I will say is Kapanen has never played with a true playmaker as he will as indicated by Rutherford's Kapanen is a top 6 fwd tweet. If he plays with Sid or Geno, I think you guys have a guaranteed 25 goal scorer, perhaps a 30 goal scorer, and a ceiling high 40 goal guy next year. That's not bad at 3.2. The key is Sid and Geno, if Kapanen plays with either, expect a career year Pens fans.

 

[cookthebooks]

am i right in thinking that hallanders star was fading a bit? not to justify what seems like a severely lacking in imagination sort of forced trade.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Some craziness has to be in order. Like, multiple guys out of Murray, JJ, Bjugs, Hornqvist, Rust, Letang, and Dumo have got to be on the move.

I have no idea how a human brain comes to the conclusion that the 15th overall + one of our better prospects = Kapanen.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

But is he in Sullivan's eyes? I want him to be, but I doubt it. We'll end up with Dominik-Single-Digit-Goals-Simon getting those minutes.

If he's as cocky as advertised, he's going to be getting the D***** S***** (don't know if there' still an embargo on that dude's name) treatment.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The Leafs won this deal obviously, but I think people are being disingenuous with acting like Kapanen is only a 3rd liner with no space to grow. In Kapanen's 2 years in the NHL, he has produced at ES like a top-6 winger with a 1.90 5v5 points/60. That's good, he immediately slots into the top-6 (probably with Malkin) and is a clear improvement. The Penguins also have a stacked top-6 group now.

I definitely think they overpaid, but let's not pretend the Penguins got a bad player here. Kapanen's going to be a good top-6 forward for them.

 

[Gurglesons]

Pin it to the first page.

 

[Clare2904]

Failures of this team from this moment forward fall on the heads of #66, Moorhouse and Burkle.

They kept a coach and GM who should have been gone last year. Live in the past, f*** off.

 

[irunthepeg]

If the goal is to go all-in for the next 2 years, 15 OA+Hallander should get you a return involving a better player than Kasperi Kapanen.

Was just coming to say if he's giving up one of your best prospects AND a 15OA, he should at the very least also be dumping JJ in that trade. Nuts. I do not get what the hell JR was thinking. Sorry guys.

 

[Turin]

If Murray and JJ are packaged to bring a 2nd and 4th or something do you feel a bit better?

 

[OswaldBates]

But is he in Sullivan's eyes? I want him to be, but I doubt it. We'll end up with Dominik-Single-Digit-Goals-Simon getting those minutes.

PSSSSST Remember 2 weeks agao when all the Assistant Coaches were fired & people here said that was a shot across the bow for Sullivan ? is that now non operative ?

 

[SEALBound]

My favorite part of this deal is he pissed away half of our tradable assets for something we don’t even need.

A 3rd line RW.

God what the f***..

Except he's not going to be 3RW and you know this. He will slot in on Malkin or Sid's RW. He is brought in to be a Top 6 wing, a position which is very capable of doing.

my favourite part is that JR traded a better player in Kahun for Sheary.

Kahun is not better than Kapanen. Come on now. Just stop.

If the goal is to go all-in for the next 2 years, 15 OA+Hallander should get you a return involving a better player than Kasperi Kapanen.

Okay...who?