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I'd have those flipped, personally. If Gus wasn't doing what Gus is doing, what Kaprizov is doing wouldn't matter. If Kaprizov wasn't doing what Kaprizov is doing, we'd still be a playoff team.
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I'd have those flipped, personally. If Gus wasn't doing what Gus is doing, what Kaprizov is doing wouldn't matter. If Kaprizov wasn't doing what Kaprizov is doing, we'd still be a playoff team.
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It's possible, not sure. Safe to say if we were missing both we'd be a bottom 10 team. I just think Gus' season has a bit more to do with the team being first in the league than Kaprizov's season.
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Id put Kaprizoff over Matthews. Kaprizoff drives play. Matthews waits for Marner to drive play and put it on a silver platter for him.
Personally, the only winger I’d take over Kaprizov right now is still Kucherov
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I've always wondered if Kiprusoff and Kaprizov have the same root, where one is just the Finnish version and the other the Russian version of the same name.
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Good question… as a non-linguist and non-Eastern European, my best try at an answer:
“Kapriz” in Russian is каприз, which translates roughly to “whim”. The suffix “ov” more or less means “of”, in the sense of being part of a particular family (same logic that causes so many English names to end in “son”). So, Kaprizov means something like “son of the whimsical guy”.
(So it’s enticingly close to meaning “son of the Wild one”)
The “off” in Kiprusoff also means “of _____” so the question is where the “Kiprus” comes from. Unfortunately there’s no easy answer. It is literally the Greek word for Cyprus, which is where Nick Kypreos got his surname. If that’s not the connection, it’s something obscure. It could theoretically be connected to каприз, but it would more likely be spelled Кипрус in Russian,
so there would have to be a bit of corruption involved.
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Yes, Nathan Mackinnon broke out two years ago, the season after he won the cup.
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Mackinnon broke put in 2018 when he had 97 pts in 74 games good for 2nd in ppg league wide at about 23ish years old
Kaprizov is in his D+10 year and is about 28 years old
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Kapriz is from french Caprice, same meaning.
Cyprus is Кипр in russian, Киприот is "from Cyprus", origin is cypress or copper, no connection to Caprice.
Yeah, Kirill is so much better than anybody else on the team. And don't forget about injuries. Zucc has just played his first game after a big break, EEk is unjured which really hurts Minny's PP, and Kaprizov is still ahead of the whole league but MacKinnon and leads NHL in goals (with Drai).
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And Kaprizov broke out in 21-22 anyway with 108 points, at age 24.
Based on how voting typically goes I think he’s the likely winner today. We’ll see if he can keep it up. I think Kucherov might have some extra support behind him though if he wins the Art Ross again since he didn’t win last year despite such a dominant year
Kaprisov blows kucherov away for hart discussion. A lot less to work with, injuries to zuc and JEE. Kucherov has point, guentzel, Cirelli and hagel. Kaprisov with a lot more goals and a better +/- to boot
I agree right now, but I meant in terms of projecting favourites Kucherov might have an edge if he creates some point total separation from Kap, just because there will likely be some sense of making up for last year.
As it stands I’d put Kaprizov and Hughes as the top 2, but a defenseman isn’t going to finish that high
