Proposal: Kapanen for FLA 2017 1st rd pick

[GigaChad]

Toronto gives Kapanen
Panthers give 2017 1st round pick.

Thoughts?

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[AvroArrow]

Makes 0 sense for the leafs. Young prospect with some upside and ready to step into the lineup with our young elite level prospects. Moving him for a 2017 first only slows our rebuild down imo. Florida's 1st rounder is gonna most likely be in the 20+ range, i feel much more comfortable keeping Kapanen than trading him for a late 1st.

 

[Legend123]

I doubt Panthers are dealing away first round picks. They are ahead of their rebuild and wouldnt disregard any potential steps back (lottery pick)

 

[kelsier]

Kapanen isn't worth the first rounder (even a late one at this point) in my opinion. I think his value has slowly been trending downward. The golden goal in the WJC (from otherwise appalling tournament) is the only spotlight from last season that I remember and the 25 points in 44 AHL games aren't exactly enticing. As a Finn I hate to say this and I really hope he can change the course and eventually follow the path of his father.

From Florida's perspective I don't see why they'd take the deal. Yes, they are contending now but KK isn't going to replace Jagr in the long run and Smith is looking like a solid second line winger who can be lifted to first line if injuries occur. I would rather have them hold the pick and if needed, use it as a piece to acquire a better RW in the future.

 

[GigaChad]

Kapanen isn't worth the first rounder (even a late one at this point) in my opinion. I think his value has slowly been trending downward. The golden goal in the WJC (from otherwise appalling tournament) is the only spotlight from last season that I remember and the 25 points in 44 AHL games aren't exactly enticing. As a Finn I hate to say this and I really hope he can change the course and eventually follow the path of his father.

From Florida's perspective I don't see why they'd take the deal. Yes, they are contending now but KK isn't going to replace Jagr in the long run and Smith is looking like a solid second line winger who can be lifted to first line if injuries occur. I would rather have them hold the pick and if needed, use it as a piece to acquire a better RW in the future.

He has been better this pre-season, scoring nice goals, going to the gritty areas and showing his horrific speed.
I personally think this is the year he is going to take a big step.
Just a hunch, but I think he could be an absolute steal for a late 1st rounder.

 

[Nithoniniel]

Seems like a rather pointless trade for both sides, to be honest.

He has been better this pre-season, scoring nice goals, going to the gritty areas and showing his horrific speed.
I personally think this is the year he is going to take a big step.
Just a hunch, but I think he could be an absolute steal for a late 1st rounder.

I don't think that's the word you are searching for.

 

[Halla]

Kapanen isn't worth the first rounder (even a late one at this point) in my opinion. I think his value has slowly been trending downward. The golden goal in the WJC (from otherwise appalling tournament) is the only spotlight from last season that I remember and the 25 points in 44 AHL games aren't exactly enticing. As a Finn I hate to say this and I really hope he can change the course and eventually follow the path of his father.

From Florida's perspective I don't see why they'd take the deal. Yes, they are contending now but KK isn't going to replace Jagr in the long run and Smith is looking like a solid second line winger who can be lifted to first line if injuries occur. I would rather have them hold the pick and if needed, use it as a piece to acquire a better RW in the future.

surely you know he was an underaged player last year? most players that age were still playing in juniors/overseas.

Kapanen will be the same age as AHL rookies THIS year

 

[Visnovsky]

If the draft pick had a guarantee of getting a guy like Foote, then I'd do it. Only reason at the moment to trade Kapanen, would be to get a RHD with top pairing potential - of course the package would include something in addition to Kapanen.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Kapanen isn't worth the first rounder (even a late one at this point) in my opinion. I think his value has slowly been trending downward. The golden goal in the WJC (from otherwise appalling tournament) is the only spotlight from last season that I remember and the 25 points in 44 AHL games aren't exactly enticing. As a Finn I hate to say this and I really hope he can change the course and eventually follow the path of his father.

From Florida's perspective I don't see why they'd take the deal. Yes, they are contending now but KK isn't going to replace Jagr in the long run and Smith is looking like a solid second line winger who can be lifted to first line if injuries occur. I would rather have them hold the pick and if needed, use it as a piece to acquire a better RW in the future.

so that was the only time you watched him then, was during the WJC.

 

[Halla]

so that was the only time you watched him then, was during the WJC.

probably. because his best stretch was the last few games of the playoffs where he was arguably the marlies top forward.

40pts in 69AHL games as one of the youngest players in the league.
he isnt getting dumped for a mystery box 20-25 overall pick

the new regime knows what patience is

 

[internetdotcom]

He has been better this pre-season, scoring nice goals, going to the gritty areas and showing his horrific speed.
I personally think this is the year he is going to take a big step.
Just a hunch, but I think he could be an absolute steal for a late 1st rounder.

Nice try at a sales pitch, but if you really believed that, you would not be proposing the trade, and would want to hang onto him.

Kapanen is not worth any first at this point, let alone one that could just as easily be a lottery pick as it could be 20+ .

 

[ijuka]

As much as I've been saying that Kapanen will not make the NHL, I don't see the point in doing this for the Leafs. This would just slow their rebuild down. They'd likely get some guy who's around 2-5 years away from making NHL and in that time Kapanen would be like 23 at a minimum. Kapanen still has a pretty solid toolkit for a late first rounder and I'm not sure why a 2017 late first rounder would be expected to be so much better that it'd offset 4++ years of development time.

It has to be kept in mind that a late first round pick isn't even expected to make the NHL at all as a regular.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Nice try at a sales pitch, but if you really believed that, you would not be proposing the trade, and would want to hang onto him.

Kapanen is not worth any first at this point, let alone one that could just as easily be a lottery pick as it could be 20+ .

You do realize you just quoted what appears to be a Panther fan?

 

[Toronto makebeleifs]

Nah, kapanen is developing just fine. He needs a little more seasoning, but there is no reason to trade him for someone who may not be as good (literally magic beans at this point). At this point, toronto has acquired a bunch of prospects, then develop, then profit.

 

[NarcoPolo]

I wasn't very High on kapanen since he came over from Pittsburgh, but he's really impressed me during the preseason. Making lots of smart skilled plays when he son the ice. No need for the leafs to get rid of him at this point.

 

[MacerV]

For those stating Kapanen's point totals were unimpressive he is 44th of all time in scoring as a 19 year old. 33rd if you go by PPG.

It wasn't unimpressive, it was odd. You just don't normally see 19 year olds in the AHL. That being said he did well.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Toronto gives Kapanen
Panthers give 2017 1st round pick.

Thoughts?

Uh....why?
Kappy has looked good and is waiver exempt.

 

[Mugzy97]

Kapanen is not worth any first at this point

HF is tough on Kappy but I'm sure management is quite happy with him. He's still a young kid putting up good numbers in the A. If he doesn't progress in the next 2 years then I can understand it

 

[dubplatepressure]

Nice try at a sales pitch, but if you really believed that, you would not be proposing the trade, and would want to hang onto him.

Kapanen is not worth any first at this point, let alone one that could just as easily be a lottery pick as it could be 20+ .

Respectfully disagree. Wouldn't trade him for a bottom15 pick right now. Was they youngest player in the AHL last year and after a period of acclimatization played very well. This camp he's taking steps forward. Kid needs one more half season in the A and then look out.

 

[bobermay]

Kapanen's speed and shot will bring him to the NHL at some point IMO. He has potential to be a good 2nd line winger IMO. Tt would be taking two steps backwards for the Leafs to trade him for a unknown 1st round pick at this point.

 

[xxreact9]

Makes 0 sense for the leafs. Young prospect with some upside and ready to step into the lineup with our young elite level prospects. Moving him for a 2017 first only slows our rebuild down imo. Florida's 1st rounder is gonna most likely be in the 20+ range, i feel much more comfortable keeping Kapanen than trading him for a late 1st.

You've literally gotta be kidding me. Why do leaf fans, and I mean only leaf fans of all the teams in the league, vastly overrate certain players? Sorry but no GM in history of the game would trade a 1st for Kapanen.

E.g. Kapanen is an elite A+ prospect, Jake Gardiner is an absolute surefire top-4 defender with huge upside and he isn't -50 every season (just pretend).

 

[Holymakinaw]

Toronto gives Kapanen
Panthers give 2017 1st round pick.

Thoughts?

??? Why on earth would either team do this?

 

[xxreact9]

HF is tough on Kappy but I'm sure management is quite happy with him. He's still a young kid putting up good numbers in the A. If he doesn't progress in the next 2 years then I can understand it

He put up absolutely terrible numbers in the A. What are you possibly talking about? 0.56 points per game for a forward is not good by any stretch of any imagination even for a leaf fan.


Brandon Montour of the ducks put up 0.83 points per game, vastly better and he's a defenseman. He is hardly worth much more than a 1st round pick in today's game. If Kapanen is worth a 1st this league is no longer a league.

 

[Stu]

You've literally gotta be kidding me. Why do leaf fans, and I mean only leaf fans of all the teams in the league, vastly overrate certain players? Sorry but no GM in history of the game would trade a 1st for Kapanen.

E.g. Kapanen is an elite A+ prospect, Jake Gardiner is an absolute surefire top-4 defender with huge upside and he isn't -50 every season (just pretend).

You've literally gotta be kidding me.

 

[Hally BlackWood]

You've literally gotta be kidding me. Why do leaf fans, and I mean only leaf fans of all the teams in the league, vastly overrate certain players? Sorry but no GM in history of the game would trade a 1st for Kapanen.

E.g. Kapanen is an elite A+ prospect, Jake Gardiner is an absolute surefire top-4 defender with huge upside and he isn't -50 every season (just pretend).

oh don't worry we'll just pretend to care about your opinion. How is he overrated. No one is saying hes the next coming of christ, They just expect to get a nhl player out of him at some point. Considering what you get in the draft from 20 on I think hes doing just fine no point in trading him. He's looked good so far so I don't get what your saying. Not to mention its different team making the proposal so hes certainly catching other fans eyes too. Maybe watch hockey