habdynasty
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Player Discussion Kaiden Guhle
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just look at the way he waited for Guhle to be in the MOST vulnerable position. It was an intentional hit from behind. He's a shitty person
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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No he won't. This team is fairly soft and the league is soft overall. Nothing will happen to Kucherov
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The NHL is like the WWE, they need heels and heroes, for every Crosby there is a Kucherov or Tkachuk or Marchand, they all have a place in making the wheel turn. It was a foul hit, maybe a payback for something from the past and we didn't respond but next season is only 6 months away. The hit got us riled up which is a conversation for today and will be forgotten till we send a message back.
I don't think that Guhle is soft or fragile(note to the people that frame me as a doomer, you know who you are) but rather an opportunistic dirty hit because in reality, the kid is one of our top players and the Lightning know that. Soon it will be us at the top of the conference and we will take our shots and win the big games, it's just how it is.
I don't think that Guhle is soft or fragile(note to the people that frame me as a doomer, you know who you are) but rather an opportunistic dirty hit because in reality, the kid is one of our top players and the Lightning know that. Soon it will be us at the top of the conference and we will take our shots and win the big games, it's just how it is.
Not in that game. Do the Lightning score 6 in regulation if the habs aren't short their best defenseman?
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Guhle should play on his natural side, not on the right side.
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Gotta keep those love taps from the bench under review though, right? lol the NHL is pathetic. Penalties vary on who made the hit, who was it on, and who was reffing.
The league can do something very simple to end these stupid hits from behind.
I suggested this years ago when they dumped the red line and hits from behind started to become a safety hazard.
No player shall engage in body contact with a defenseless player (facing the boards) until a play on the puck has first been made.
Ducherov had no intention of playing the puck his intention all along was to hurt Guhle on a fly by.
He can't go in shoving or extending with his shoulder if he has to make a play on the puck first at which point the defender has time to react and defend.
The checker's mind set will forever be changed from one of making contact on a defenseless player to one of making a play on the puck first.
It keeps player's hands down does not eliminate contact from the sport and keeps the flow going.
Players are free to use contact as they will in any other scenario.
N.B. Most players who aren't Turds already play this way.
Soft? You mean the incredibly undersized guy who scored like crazy and played during a much tougher period than today? Is THAT the St. Louis we’re talking about?
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These fagrants better take revenge next game.
Probably softer as coach than as a player, who knows.
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Does he provide any indication to the opposite? His team is a bunch of creampuffs. He neutered that only player that the opposition has to fear and now he is a good boi. When St Louis played he had the benefit of some strong tough players on his team. He seems to have forgotten how valuable that was.
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He unnecessarily left himself wide open to be hit and even before Kucherov hit him I was shaking my head as he has done this his entire pro career. Move your f'n feet kiddo!
Kucherov has always been a underrated cheap shot artist and I wasn't shocked that he did it and it is digusting that he wasn't penalized at all for hitting an opponent directly in the numbers, face first into the glass resulting in injury. I am not saying that it was a slam dunk 5 minute major/game misconduct but it was at the very least a minor penalty and should have been a double minor.
Guhle needs to stop acting like Savard and allowing forecheckers to tee off on him. Skate the bleepin' puck and use some deception to slow down forecheckers who have no interest in missing and eating the boards themselves.
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Is Guhle out with concussion? If he is, I would sit him rest of season. Only 7 meaningless games left
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100%. In fact I cringe all the times Guhle is in the corner, just like I used to do with Slaf earlier in the season for a headshot. But Guhle contrary to Slaf, is not learning that part. Sometimes he reminds me of Svoboda at the start of his career, for the wrong reasons.
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Agreed, although the difference is unlike Slaf, Guhle sees them coming and puts himself in a position to simply accept the punishment. In last night's situation, he didn't necessarily see it coming but he intentionally positioned his body so that he thought Kucherov wouldn't do it.....he was wrong. He has to realize that opposing forwards will send a message to dmen who do that and are willing to take the odd penalty in a meaningless game to make a point around the league.
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This is hardly a team of cream puffs.
We may not be the most punishing team in the league but we deliver more than our fair share of hits and the roster from top to bottom does not shy away from traffic....(except Ylonen at times). This team has no problem with going into the dirty areas and battling but it is young and will only get bigger and stronger.
I don't know why some feel the need to apply such sweeping generalizations in a "say it three times and it will be true" agenda.
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I think if you turn away from a hit, then it enters a grey area for whether a hit from behind is dirty hit or not. But if your back is already facing a forward and the forward sees your back and targets your back, that's a clear hit from behind and has no place in the game. If players think it's fine to throw them in a meaningless game, then they need to be suspended for as many games as needed that it won't be so meaningless to them to throw the dirty hit.
It is hockey. You can make plays with the puck without expecting to be targeted for a hit from behind.
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It is hockey and you absolutely should expect to be hit when you do that because you will get hurt when it invariably happens when players have had enough of this dangerous tactic. I played long enough to know never to do what Guhle did and to not be ready to trake a hit even if it likely wasn't coming. We can talk good sportsmanship vs poor sportsmanship but they don't matter when you get plastered....reality is what matters and to blindly behave like your opponent is 100% going to take the moral high ground is foolish and just begging for an injury.
I have a huge problem with defenders who turn their back at the last second and have little sympathy for them. In Guhle's case his beck was turned long before Kucherov even started to throw the hit. I just think it was a dumb move from a possession perspective by Guhle and it also created an opportunity to get injured if Kucherov simply says eff it and throws the hit out of spite....which he absolutely did.
Ultimately Guhle greatly increases his chances of getting hurt by rolling the dice with opposing forwards. As a former dman I never trusted my opponent and if I could help it I would not put myself into a position where my opponent was going to have the upper hand......not unless he was prepared to eat an elbow lol.
To be clear, it was a dirty hit by Kucherov and he is definitely at fault but there is no doubt that Guhle puts himself in unnecessarily dangerous situations where he is needlesly vulnerable to violent and dangerous collisions.
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Any updates on the kid?
I like your example of heroes and villains, except Kucherov isn't smart enough to be an interesting villain. Marchand is a true villain who has a brain and knows exactly what he's doing. On the other hand, Kucherov is simply a witless dummy.
I agree with the slowburn-payback philosophy - take their number, take our time, like implementing a self-esteem rebuild.
I like your example of heroes and villains, except Kucherov isn't smart enough to be an interesting villain. Marchand is a true villain who has a brain and knows exactly what he's doing. On the other hand, Kucherov is simply a witless dummy.
OldCraig71
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Kucherov is a superstar but certainly, one that plays by his own rules as evidenced by his "performance" at the all-star game, sitting out till the playoffs started, rehabbing from "injury"—talking at the mic while drunk after they won the COVID-19 cup by defeating us. He is the very definition of a heel lol.
He's probably not even well-liked by his teammates but he is a hell of a hockey player and they are lucky to have him. He got away with the dirty hit from behind because of his status in the league, a 4th liner wouldn't have.
I was expecting something from our guys after the hit and we had 3 players on the roster that could have done something but unfortunately it didn't happen. Oh well, as you know, time flies by quickly and we will get him next year.
