Value of: Kadri for rebuilding assets

[EscapeGoat]

Kadri's going nowhere. Lou signed him long-term for a reason.

 

[Gavy]

Or the majority of Leaf fans overestimate him.

I only found one team where fans of that team might think he'd be an improvement for the 2nd line centre role.

On pretty much every other team in the league Kadri is a 3rd line centre (or worse).

I think Kadri is a useful player but other teams have players that can fill a similar role or acquire players that play a similar role for a small price.

Bahaha. You have no clue about hockey if you think Kadri is a 3rd or 4th line Centre lmfao

 

[sxvnert]

Playing Kadri with third liners isn't helping his stat sheet.

 

[Paneerboy]

Carolina needs forwards

How about

Kadri

For

2 x 2nd round draft picks

That helps us in no way whatsoever.

 

[JohnnyO]

I think Kadri is more valuable to the Leafs than any other team.

Fair enough. That doesn't change the fact Kadri is a 2/3 gritty center who can put up points and is on a reasonable contract.

 

[Wewillrise]

Someone should make a poll to see what the majority thinks.

 

[McSuper]

I am not a Kadri fan at all . Having said that the TML need to keep him and shelter the kids . A rebuilding team doesn't move a Kadri type of player out . You keep him and when the kids pushes him down the line up you move him out for picks and cap space to resign the younger better players . Keep him and let the kids develop at their own pace unless he a locker room problem it is not the time to move him

 

[leaflover]

Kadri is extremely overrated by most of my fellow Leaf fans. If your team has him as a 2C then your team isn't a contender. He has the skill set of a 3C, but with his immaturity and dirty play I wouldn't want him on my team.

If the Leafs could somehow get a top 4 defenceman I'd be thrilled, but I'd settle for a late 1st or even a 2nd round pick.

I'm no Kadri fan either but that doesn't prevent me from recognizing his value.

 

[Trapper]

That's the most confusing part of this thread. He's clearly a winger.

Nylander is a center and can play all 3 forward positions. He's 19. Is Galchenyuk and winger because he spent most of the first 3 seasons on wing? Lindholm in Carolina? Jenner in Columbus plays LW/C. Duchene in Colorado. O'Reilly when he was there. Etc. Etc.
Centers can play wing.

 

[Jozay]

I dont think you understand why we locked Kadri up.

If you have Matthews at 1C, you have someone else as 2C, then Kadri at 3C, (which is what I think management had in mind for the future), thats great depth down the middle. He's here for 6 more years, so hopefully we'll be contenders during that time. He's rounding out his game and can slide up and down the lineup if injuries occur. And at only 4.5, I feel like Kadri is a very valuable asset.

 

[Gavy]

Nylander is a center and can play all 3 forward positions. He's 19. Is Galchenyuk and winger because he spent most of the first 3 seasons on wing? Lindholm in Carolina? Jenner in Columbus plays LW/C. Duchene in Colorado. O'Reilly when he was there. Etc. Etc.
Centers can play wing.

You guys let this guy troll you. If you imagine everything he posts in a patronizing voice, you'll get his posts.

 

[The_Chosen_One]

Playing Kadri with third liners isn't helping his stat sheet.

Wait till they pair him up with Marner. Those two despite being on the smaller side do play a pretty physical game.

The third line mate ( whoever that is) will benefit immensely with those two. I'm hoping we can slot in Vesey if he decides to join us.

 

[Ropesman]

While Nylander looked competent at the pivot position last year, I still think he is better suited as a winger.

He played C during the playoff run with the Marlies and at times looked lost and not playing at the level we are all accustomed to. Not saying he does not have the potential to one day be our 2C, I just like him better on the wing. I would love to keep Kadri long term as our 2C and have Nylander as a scoring winger. Just my opinion though.

 

[ManofSteel55]

The Leafs are already running with too few NHL proven assets. Nobody wins with all rookies. Keep Kadri.

 

[Semantics]

^ this. Selling Kadri as a 3C is a joke.

If Kadri is a third liner then I guess Kessel is too.

 

[Semantics]

Hahahahaha, get out of here Leafs haters with your ridiculous offers, we're not going to gift you a tremendous player like Kadri.

Kadri is going to be a Leaf for a long, long time unless someone blows Lou's socks off. 6 years on a below-market contract, for a guy who is one of the hardest competitors each and every shift. And when that's done he'll likely give us another hometown discount. He loves it here. And the braintrust loves him here.

Toronto’s been home for me, Toronto’s where my heart is. The Maple Leaf logo is all I’ve ever known and it’s all I’ve ever wanted to play for. For them to show this kind of commitment towards me meant a lot.

I love the way he competes. I’ve seen him get hit at different times and he just comes right back. He’s not afraid to give it, and what you respect the most about him is he can take it. He’s not a retaliatory type of player, but he’ll get you at the right time, and at the right place. He’s one that I wouldn’t mind going in a foxhole with.

He gets so many chances, the more he [works on his shot], the better off he’ll be … Naz is a brave guy. He’s nasty to play against. Competes hard. He wants to do it right. Knows how to play in his own zone now. Knows how to play in the neutral zone. Knowing when the game’s on the line what to do. He doesn’t back down to anybody. I think a big part of playing against good players is being mean enough to do it and compete hard enough to do it. And he does that.

It'd have to be one hell of an offer for the Leafs to move him.

He's ours. You don't get him. Suck it.

 

[TheGreat]

Nazem Kadri has become expendable with the acquisition of Matthews via the draft and projects to get out slotted by Nylander eventually.

Kadri is a clear cut 2C on rebuilding teams and a solid 3C on contenders.

Looking for (at-least one of):

• A young RHD with top 4 upside
• 1st round picks and 2nd round picks
• Quality prospects at the forward position
• Blue-chip goaltending prospects

Leafs just signed him to a extension , why would they trade him now?

 

[VoidCreature]

Nazem Kadri has become expendable with the acquisition of Matthews via the draft and projects to get out slotted by Nylander eventually.

Kadri is a clear cut 2C on rebuilding teams and a solid 3C on contenders.

Looking for (at-least one of):

• A young RHD with top 4 upside
• 1st round picks and 2nd round picks
• Quality prospects at the forward position
• Blue-chip goaltending prospects

The rebuild never ends? Just keep him, man. He's a good player and he's what, 25? He's a core piece. The kids need players to look up to.

 

[SAADfather]

He also,

-Has amazing advanced stats
-Very good 2 way player
-Incredibly underpaid. See Killorn contract.
-Had an unsustainable low shooting %.
-Is past all his antics and is an incredibly hard worker, no idea where you get immaturity from.
-Dirty? lol.
-Amazing at drawing penalties

He is much more than a 3C. Kadri was on pace for 27 goals if he shot his career shooting %. No idea where you are getting 3C from.

How exactly is Kadri "incredibly underpaid"? It's a little silly to make that assumption based on one comparable (also ignoring the fact that Kilhorn has been a beast in the playoffs) Kadri is at about exactly at market value. Some other comparables:

Adam Henrique - 4mil AAV
Bryan Little - 4.7mil AAV
Ryan Johansen - 4mil AAV
Kyle Turris - 3.4mil AAV
Marcus Johansen - 3.75mil AAV
Tyler Johnson - 3.3mil AAV

And if i'm being honest, I take all those players (besides Marcus Johansson) over Kadri. Don't get me wrong Kadri is a real nice 2c, it's just calling him "incredibly underpaid" is definitely a stretch..

 

[TorontoTrades]

Bozak is the one going to be pushed out, not Kadri.

Matthews, Nylander and Kadri will be our 3 centers it'll just take a bit of time.

 

[Captain Timo]

How exactly is Kadri "incredibly underpaid"? It's a little silly to make that assumption based on one comparable (also ignoring the fact that Kilhorn has been a beast in the playoffs) Kadri is at about exactly at market value. Some other comparables:

Adam Henrique - 4mil AAV
Bryan Little - 4.7mil AAV
Ryan Johansen - 4mil AAV
Kyle Turris - 3.4mil AAV
Marcus Johansen - 3.75mil AAV
Tyler Johnson - 3.3mil AAV

And if i'm being honest, I take all those players (besides Marcus Johansson) over Kadri. Don't get me wrong Kadri is a real nice 2c, it's just calling him "incredibly underpaid" is definitely a stretch..

Majority of those guys will be due for serious raises, Kadri just signed his deal to get his raise.

 

[LV*]

If Grabner scored on half of the tap ins Kadri set him up for, Naz would have hit 55 points... Then look at how bad the team was last season and who he was playing with, while also being the Leafs best defensive player. No thanks.

Bozak will be traded if they are looking to get rid of a center.

 

[LV*]

Bozak is the one going to be pushed out, not Kadri.

Matthews, Nylander and Kadri will be our 3 centers it'll just take a bit of time.

Matthews, Nylander, Kadri and Gauthier.

 

[Homesick]

Kadri is absolutely a 2c on a contender.

Once again, you're super wrong. We don't need a top 4 d, we need a top 2 d. We aren't trading Kadri for a goalie prospect, we definitely don't need more forward prospects.

We can't ice a team full of teenagers...

If Nugent-Hopkins is a mid 2C then Kadri is a low end 2C on a contender. The Leafs would be hard pressed to get a top 4D for him

 

[bossram]

I don't see why they would trade Kadri. He exactly the type of player they need to keep: He's still young enough to fit in the core, and can shelter younger players. He's a piece for now and the future. I don't see how running Matthews-Nylander-Kadri down the middle is a big problem. And it gives the flexibility to use Nylander on the wing.