You tell me he's garbage and then tell me he has value, but then go on to tell me we should trade him for some other teams underwhelming player...I dont know why he has to be traded to begin with if that's all we are getting for him, worst case scenario he's a decent 3rd line player. He had 40 points the previous season, 18 goals, those didn't just fall out of the sky. He had a bad year, I agree but dumping him because he had a blip in his progression is silly. He's a big body, protects the puck well, has a good shot even if he doesn't use it near enough but needs to work on his speed, needs some confidence and needs to trust his skills. Those are all things that can be and will be worked on, the attributes he currently is good at aren't ones that are as easily teachable, you can't teach big. Go back and look at Kreiders stats, his early years aren't that impressive, not far from the 40 points Kakko got last year, it took him time, it might take Kakko time and if it doesn't then he can protect the puck and use his possession skills to wear teams down on the 3rd line and learn to become a useful defensive minded player.