Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

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17futurecap

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Brooks is right, if he’s going offer sheet way, you have to trade him, a first and third round pick is nothing, teams give up more for rentals at the deadline.

Have a month to figure it out, guessing his exit interview with Drury and the coaching staff will be very important.
 

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We are all curious why Turk made that stupid decision.

Fabricating random scenario’s with eachother won’t unlock the answer. That’s the whole point here. Nobody knows.

Hopefully it comes out. Last night Gallant didn’t want to discuss it. The same question will be asked during the exit interviews and we’ll hear why.
I never claimed to know anything and again it wasn’t like I created the speculation it already existed, there’s numerous other posts in several threads about it

Prevailing notion was that it may be for disciplinary actions, I didn’t invent that someone posted it here last night, funny how nobody attacked him for it

Then all I did was try to, forgive me, speculate what those reasons/scenarios for such an action would be and see what others thought

You come back at me with stuff about speculating if Kakko put the wrong milk in Turk’s coffee and Alex Jones memes

One of these lines of thought is within the realm of possibilities given the info we have and the other is a gross mischaracterization of what I was saying which is usually the result of someone knowing they’re wrong
 

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Brooks is right, if he’s going offer sheet way, you have to trade him, a first and third round pick is nothing, teams give up more for rentals at the deadline.

Have a month to figure it out, guessing his exit interview with Drury and the coaching staff will be very important.
Would that depend on which teams 1st and 3rd pick it was? Or is it just some sort of supplemental pick? I'd be curious if it was a strong draft year. I have kept an open mind about KK but so far he just is not producing. My hope is that he will but his history in other leagues does not show a huge scorer like Lafs did.
 

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There are teams we can count out pretty quickly that won’t OS Kakko due to cap space. But there are a handful that can certainly make life difficult for us.
 

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Devils 1 yr, $6mm is not a great feeling

He’d have to sign it and I doubt he would.

Id be more worried about a team like LA. Promising upcoming team, attractive destination/ big city… idk, wouldn’t shock me if Kakko said yes to go there
 

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Now I'm legit scared. It seems people of any age can fall prey to the hipster hivemind. There is #nocap. Be on high alert.
 

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Blues, Kings and Canes stick out there, I think a lot of those teams won’t give up their Bedard lottery ticket.

Canes can’t afford to keep Trocheck, would they really be interested in Kakko?

STL is an interesting one

LA is a scary one

How many are known for being willing to make an offer sheet? There is a chance KK does not get any.

I don’t think we can play this card cuz there’s always a first time for everything, especially when it can be a good move for the teams franchise
 

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He’d have to sign it and I doubt he would.

Id be more worried about a team like LA. Promising upcoming team, attractive destination/ big city… idk, wouldn’t shock me if Kakko said yes to go there

why wouldn't he sign it? Financially you're comparing 2 years making 4.5mm total with the Rangers to 6mm for 1 year. Devils have already looked great offensively, will be adding a beast in slafkovsky, have an additional $9mm in space from moving on from subban, and are - for as much as i hate to say it - a free agent goaltender signing away from legitimately competing for a playoff spot in the metro.
 

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why wouldn't he sign it? Financially you're comparing 2 years making 4.5mm total with the Rangers to 6mm for 1 year. Devils have already looked great offensively, will be adding a beast in slafkovsky, have an additional $9mm in space from moving on from subban, and are - for as much as i hate to say it - a free agent goaltender signing away from legitimately competing for a playoff spot in the metro.

Good points, I’ll retract my statement
 

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Canes can’t afford to keep Trocheck, would they really be interested in Kakko?

STL is an interesting one

LA is a scary one



I don’t think we can play this card cuz there’s always a first time for everything, especially when it can be a good move for the teams franchise
Im not worried about it. Either we will get a 1st and 3rd and room for other young guys or we will keep KK. I don't think his demand will be that high. He has played parts of 3 underwhelming seasons so far.
 

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Best thing Drury can do right now is to sit down with Kakko and get him signed ASAP to end all this garbage drama that was created by GG.

we should NOT be entering this offseason with a Kakko cloud. Was supposed be a positive offseason and wondering who the #2 Center will be, who will be promoted, etc. Not this.
 
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What about looking to trade Kakko for his countryman Anton Lundell? Two young guys who are still trying to figure it out that were both healthy scratches for key playoff games. They might want a change of scenery after that despicable treatment and lack of respect by their head coaches.

More interested in finding a way to get Lundell to help Kakko.

Kakko if healthy will score 20-25 goals.. but putting him on the 4th line is a disservice.. the only way to improve the 4th line was moving up goody and putting hunt in the 4th line.. strome playing was the reason that kakko sat. GG needed a back up plan at center..

He had 7 in 40 games with no PP time. 20 is approachable by just staying healthy and getting some more minutes.
 

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More interested in finding a way to get Lundell to help Kakko.
Back to the obsession lol. Post about Lundell another 100,000 times despite no chance of it happening. A South Fla team with a future cap issue is not moving an inexpensive kid. But keep asking for him 😆
 
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LOL. The rangers weren't able to get to the puck in the bolts zone. Trap made it impossible to skate in with possession so we had to play dump and chase. Kakko showed no chase so we weren't able to control the puck. I said he was a one trick pony. He was able to control the puck below the goal line all postseason, that was it. But we weren't able to get there. We needed speed and a heavy forecheck to be able to break the trap and Kakko was doing none of that

Nobody was any good against Tampa, I don’t think I’m going to shove that criticism off on Kakko.

Back to the obsession lol. Post about Lundell another 100,000 times despite no chance of it happening. A South Fla team with a future cap issue is not moving an inexpensive kid. But keep asking for him 😆

Thanks I will.

The Rangers can match a 1 year $6m off sheet though. It would require some other decisions but it could be done.

Kakko has to be taken care of first, before anything.
 

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Losing Kakko without a clear win return (like say, Zegras, and thus impossible) is a fireable offense.

Brooks has always been a water carrying win-now advocate so I hope he’s just showing his own ass with this article.
 

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The people saying Kakko is a bust and wanting him gone are most likely too young to remember guys like Amonte, Weight, Kovalev and how the Rangers in their infinite wisdom got rid of them (and later got rid of Zubov) who all went on to HOF or borderline HOF careers. Or how they completely destroyed Sundstrom. Probably too young to even remember Duclair. I don't care that the Cup was won in 94, they sold their future for one crack at it and it barely worked out. They could have had a core of Messier, Graves, Leetch. Zubov, Amonte, Kovalev, Weight for a decade or more. Instead they won a Cup and then proceeded to enter the dark ages while NJ held on to their core and won 3 Cups. People ignore or try to erase their past mistakes are doomed to repeat them in some form or fashion.

And I'll say this, while not as gifted because there's not alot of people in history at this sport who are, Kakko reminds me a hell of a lot of a young Kovalev. Especially how he controlls the puck on the boards. With so much raw gifted talent and a clear language barrier, he needs time to grow into his own man and own player. Go ahead and trade him to Pittsburgh so he can become a 40 goal scorer with Crosby or Malkin like Kovalev became with Lemieux and Jagr. The situations are eerily similar.

Kakko is 21 years old. He's already our best forward at controlling the puck down low on the cycle. He was part of the best line on the team by a wide margin the entire playoffs.

It's amazing how much instant gratification is needed by people. He was a 2nd overall pick but that doesn't automatically mean that player will reach his prime at 21. Players still need to develop.

And Hunt, Rooney, and injured Strome were NOT better options than Kakko even with how young he is and how much of a work in progress he is.

Remember this post, if the Rangers lose Kakko due to their typical self destructive stupidity, they and the fans will rue that decision for a long time.
Hear, hear. I'll add for the people hyperfixated on "points" or "draft position" that Kakko or Laffy could easily have had 30+ points passing the puck to Fox/Mika/Kreider on the PP1, which is what covered Panarin's ass all year. "Points" is not at all the whole picture.
 

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Losing Kakko without a clear win return (like say, Zegras, and thus impossible) is a fireable offense.

Brooks has always been a water carrying win-now advocate so I hope he’s just showing his own ass with this article.

He didn't say anything bad though? He is 100% right though, we can't have an unsigned Kakko come the 13th or we risk losing him for a crummy 1st round pick, which could be in the late 20s for all we know. Didn't help at all that GG has given him the short end of the straw all season and the mighty scratch for the final game of the season over a terrible player.
 
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