Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

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EdJovanovski

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First you think Kakko’s In hot water cause of the way Gallant responded in the presser.

Then you said he wasn’t liked by his teammates and he’s an awkward loner.

You then assume a situation happened that shook up the locker room because the players were angry in the presser.

You then assume it was up to Kakko or Hunt for that last spot on the 4th line and Kakko didn’t take kindly to it.

You’re literally just making stuff up. I’m not trying to censor you. I’m pointing out that nobody knows if anything happened, and throwing out random situations is pointless.
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djzbad

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First you think Kakko’s In hot water cause of the way Gallant responded in the presser.

Then you said he wasn’t liked by his teammates and he’s an awkward loner.

You then assume a situation happened that shook up the locker room because the players were angry in the presser.

You then assume it was up to Kakko or Hunt for that last spot on the 4th line and Kakko didn’t take kindly to it.

You’re literally just making stuff up. I’m not trying to censor you. I’m pointing out that nobody knows if anything happened, and throwing out random situations is pointless.
I didn’t assume anything learn the definition first before using it against me, I never presented anything as fact and was participating in the ongoing discussion

I never said his teammates didn’t like him I was recalling something I remembered reading before and someone responded, kindly, backing that up

It’s an open forum, speculation and random situations make up half of the talk, I didn’t present myself like I was all knowing, I didn’t have an attitude, I actually tried my hardest to post it in a way not to upset anyone but some of you just can’t help yourself because you think you’re superior in some way when you’re far from it

Try not attacking people constantly and have a little tact, when you come at me with unwarranted negative energy then you’ll get responded to in kind
 

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I didn’t assume anything learn the definition first before using it against me, I never presented anything as fact and was participating in the ongoing discussion

I never said his teammates didn’t like him I was recalling something I remembered reading before and someone responded, kindly, backing that up

It’s an open forum, speculation and random situations make up half of the talk, I didn’t present myself like I was all knowing, I didn’t have an attitude, I actually tried my hardest to post it in a way not to upset anyone but some of you just can’t help yourself because you think you’re superior in some way when you’re far from it

Try not attacking people constantly and have a little tact, when you come at me with unwarranted negative energy then you’ll get responded to in kind
Imagine if half the forum speculated over what might have happened last night by over analyzing and overthinking things.

Maybe Kakko gave Gallant the middle finger behind his back and Strome ratted him out.

Maybe Kakko used regular milk instead of 2% when he made Gallants coffee before the morning skate!

I heard Kakko loves Fortnite and Gallant is more of an Apex fan and because of this, Turk hates him.


It’s all speculative, pointless nonsense.
 

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KK will be a beast in a couple of years. Once he works on his skating and gains confidence he will be a puck controlling machine. People don't have foresight to see this. He has already shown signs of this.

He needs to spend a few offseasons with ben prentiss. To play power forward game you need the power to back it up. He was manhandled by the tampa D
 

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Kakko has had his up and downs during last 1 and a half years, which is normal, but what i have found odd has been that what is does well seems to change every other month.

There was a period he was a god at stealing pucks and forcing turnovers (havent seen any of that this year unfortunately). There has been periods where he never loses the puck. There has been periods where he wins every board battle. There has been periods where he is a defensive machine. Sometimes his playmaking looks excellent.

Only thing consistent about the man is his sh*t finishing
He’s still only 21! Let’s hang in there with him.
 

djzbad

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Imagine if half the forum speculated over what might have happened last night by over analyzing and overthinking things.

Maybe Kakko gave Gallant the middle finger behind his back and Strome ratted him out.

Maybe Kakko used regular milk instead of 2% when he made Gallants coffee before the morning skate!

I heard Kakko loves Fortnite and Gallant is more of an Apex fan and because of this, Turk hates him.


It’s all speculative, pointless nonsense.
Ridiculous desperate exaggeration as usual to try and distort the situation, weak
 

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He needs to spend a few offseasons with ben prentiss. To play power forward game you need the power to back it up. He was manhandled by the tampa D
the only one of tampa's D that manhandled him by any stretch was hedman. and hedman manhandles everyone.

Id rather him spend an off season or two working on improving his burst and overall speed. If he gains speed, then he's got more space to start pulling those cutting moves, and each one stacks on itself in giving him more open space.
It will also then translate to his defensive speed. Letting him force more turnovers.
 
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djzbad

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If it was disciplinary then you'd have to hope Kakko owns up to whatever it was and moves on. It must've been somewhat egregious to get scratched.
Stop speculating tin foil hat wearer, the gatekeepers said we’re not allowed to talk about it :sarcasm:
 

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the only one of tampa's D that manhandled him by any stretch was hedman. and hedman manhandles everyone.

Id rather him spend an off season or two working on improving his burst and overall speed. If he gains speed, then he's got more space to start pulling those cutting moves, and each one stacks on itself in giving him more open space.
It will also then translate to his defensive speed. Letting him force more turnovers.

Where do you think "burst" comes from? Why do you think kreider can turn on the jets better than anyone on this team? That is all power

also, McDonagh Cernak and Bogosian all did just fine. They had the size and strength advantage and used it
 

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If it was disciplinary then you'd have to hope Kakko owns up to whatever it was and moves on. It must've been somewhat egregious to get scratched.
Did Dryden Hunt take a PK shift? If he did then there's your answer; Gallant always wants a lot of options for killing penalties and while he didn't know Strome legitimately couldn't turn he knew he wasn't 100%.

I don't think it was disciplinary but I do think Kakko has probably been an awkward and gloomy presence around the team compared to a guy like Laffy, who also isn't meeting expectations but is such a vibrant personality, and that counts for something.

Kakko needs to play his game his way and since I do see the talent, I hope there's the right plan, the right linemates and a lot of icetime for him next year. And here, not in Buffalo!
 

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Where do you think "burst" comes from? Why do you think kreider can turn on the jets better than anyone on this team? That is all power

also, McDonagh Cernak and Bogosian all did just fine. They had the size and strength advantage and used it
Kreider was a fast skater at the start of his career.

Power isnt necessary fast twitch. There’s power and then there’s explosion.

I want Kakko to add both. But some of it is cleaning up his mechanics to be more efficient. He’s got elite edges, he needs to then add more straight speed on top of that.
 
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Calad

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Kreider was a fast skater at the start of his career.

Power isnt necessary fast twitch. There’s power and then there’s explosion.

I want Kakko to add both. But some of it is cleaning up his mechanics to be more efficient. He’s got elite edges, he needs to then add more straight speed on top of that.

I mean we've all seen the "kreider jumps out of pool" clip. that was filmed in college. he's been a gym rat his entire life
 
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So I think we can all agree we get to recognize the regular poster's names over and over. I am a total wiseass joker. However, I've also always been an awkward loner, so let me clue you guys in on a few things:

Awkward because I'd much rather walk in the woods and catalogue native vs. invasive species of plants than hang out at a bar. I loved playing this sport more than anything when I was younger. I loved being part of a team. However I didn't love the whole "bro" culture, and often times had very little in common with my teammates. It doesn't mean we didn't get along and have some serious laughs. It doesn't mean I didn't battle my ass off for them. They knew I was a weirdo, but they also knew I was right there with them. So I really don't see this as an issue. I was one of the boys....just the weird one. lol

Loner because while I am EXTREMELY friendly and will literally talk to anyone, I am also EXTREMELY selective as to who I REALLY give my time and energy to. I truly value my alone time. I quite literally need it in order to function. I am more than comfortable doing my own thing. There is no shell I or anyone like him or me need to emerge from.

The reality is that we don't know what's REALLY going on behind those doors. Also, as much as I get the kind of base personality he might have, none of us actually know him. I've known plenty of people like me who are total sweethearts, and others who are total dicks.
 

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What makes me angry and seriously question Gerard Gallant is that the kid line drove our play for most of the playoffs while getting little pp time. And that sequence where the kept the puck in the offensive zone leading to a goal was awesome. Then in game 3 they went scoreless and he just benched them. No patience or anything. And slowly but surely they saw less and less ice time and low and behold the Lightning got more and more dirty and were able to find their legs because we werent making them chase us around. That is why we lost. I am not particularly impressed with Tampa and feel they have a watered down team this year and we should have beat them. And Kakko was a big reason we skated so well in the Carolina series which I thought we had no prayer of winning and in the first 2 games against Tampa and this idiot benched him. It's not all about goals and points. A guy that can carry the puck into the offensive zone and set everyone up is invaluable. I knew instantly we were gonna lose.
 

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Impossible to call it the wrong move without knowing what caused it. We may not find out unless a journalist reveals it.

Again, it’s an elimination game of the Conference Finals. Barring an injury there’s no justifiable reason to sit a guy who had been playing extremely well for a replacement level grinder who hasn’t played all playoffs.
 
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This is all a Gallant thing over a Kakko thing to me. Every time I looked up at the game, I would see the fourth line playing instead of the kid line. Someone figure out how many offensive zone starts the 4th line got because I swear practically every time I saw the fourth line playing instead of the kid line, it was an offensive zone start and I would be yelling at the screen "WHY?!?!?" That is 100% a coaching thing that I can't understand. We need a 4th line that the coach can give defensive zone starts to because they can win the faceoff and dig the puck out and transfer momentum to the opponents zone. Since they don't score goals, they should move the puck around, keep puck possession, wear down the opponents, and force an icing so the top line unit can have an advantage with that offensive zone start. Or just to get that o-zone start (without the icing advantage). It's silly to give the 4th line that start. 1 in 10 times? ok, but the eye test showed me it was more like 7 in 10 times.
 
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Damn, who gave Larry permission to stir the pot? A few posters here would like to know
Larry was the assistant VP for NJ for a decade. He’s covered the Rangers for many years and has sources. And despite all of this, he didn’t make up possible scenarios like you did, numerous times.
 
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