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NYRangers0723

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Kanerbomb said:
Kakko is finally starting to trust his shot, that's a good sign. I wonder if adding Tarasenko gave him someone to model himself off of on this team, it certainly doesn't hurt to see how a player with similar skill sets plays a successful game.
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I doubt it had anything to do with Tarasenko I think it’s just a players evolving and going through the process. Talent was there which is why he was a too 2 pick just needed to get comfortable
 
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NYRangers0723 said:
I doubt it had anything to do with Tarasenko I think it’s just a players evolving and going through the process. Talent was there which is why he was a too 2 pick just needed to get comfortable
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Seems to me like once he lost his spot on PP2 he started calling for the puck and ripping shots a lot more often. Think he's playing with a bit of a chip on his shoulder which is frankly awesome and long overdue.
 
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eco's bones said:
The Rangers have more offensive weapons than most teams....and adding Tarasenko and Kane at the deadline gave us two more at least for the rest of this season. Looking at the numbers of our third line it's pretty much all about even strength scoring because none of them get a lot of power play time.

On the Rangers this is what even strength scoring looks like:

Panarin 79-19-36-55
Zibanejad 79-18-30-48
Trocheck 79-12-33-45
Chytil 71-19-21-40
Fox 79-11-29-40
Miller 76-9-28-37
Kakko 79-17-19-36
Lafreniere 78-13-22-35
Kane (with Chicago and the Rangers) 70-17-17-34
Tarasenko with St. Louis and the Rangers) 66-15-19-34
Kreider 76-23-9-32

There are advantages as well playing on the top two lines that Chytil, Kakko and Lafreniere don't often see though a counter argument could be they face weaker defensive pairing more often. Still they are 4, 5 and 6 of our forwards for even strength production.

Looking at some of their contemporaries around the league.

Jack Hughes is 75-33-31-64 at even strength. He became the Devils go to forward almost as soon as he was drafted.
Dawson Mercer is 79-25-21-46 at even strength---he's definitely top 6 on a good Devils team. Chytil's numbers are pretty close to him getting 3rd line minutes.
Tim Stutzle is 75-28-30-58 at even strength getting top line minutes.
Trevor Zegras is 77-18-27-45 on a weak Anaheim team where he is the go to forward.
Lucas Raymond is 70-12-13-25. A lot of his production this year has come on the power play.
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The sad part is Hughes and Stutzle outproducing not just Kakko and Lafreniere, but Panarin and Zibanejad at ES.
 
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mas0764 said:
The sad part is Hughes and Stutzle outproducing not just Kakko and Lafreniere, but Panarin and Zibanejad at ES.
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Ain't that telling about our systems. I mean granted Hughes is pretty damn good, but he shouldn't be better than Panarin. Not yet, not with the linemates we can provide for bread.
 
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TheDirtyH said:
Seems to me like once he lost his spot on PP2 he started calling for the puck and ripping shots a lot more often. Think he's playing with a bit of a chip on his shoulder which is frankly awesome and long overdue.
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Not sure exactly WHEN that was but, may coincide with what I deem to be another reason "along with" maybe finally coming into his own. I want to say about 5, 6 maybe 7 games ago when he had this GLORIOUS (I think PP) chance in the slot, where he OVER passed, and when they missed he slung his head back and probably murmured "why oh why, did I do that"?

Might have been "talked to" about that, and from that point on the rest of the game he was firing away. Like night and day.
Either he was pissed at himself, got reamed or both.....he's been more aggressive since then.
 
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mas0764 said:
The sad part is Hughes and Stutzle outproducing not just Kakko and Lafreniere, but Panarin and Zibanejad at ES.
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Are you sad? I'm not. The Rangers as a team with both Lafreniere and Kakko contributing very much have become one of the league's better teams. They are very good players at a very young age. They don't get quite the same opportunities as some from the same draft class but they're on a team that's become a real contender.
 
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eco's bones said:
Are you sad? I'm not. The Rangers as a team with both Lafreniere and Kakko contributing very much have become one of the league's better teams. They are very good players at a very young age. They don't get quite the same opportunities as some from the same draft class but they're on a team that's become a real contender.
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I mean our target in the first round in 19 would've been zegras, and Kakko is close to his ES production.
Our Target in the first in 20 was going to be Lundell, and Laf has out produced Lundell this year.

Stutzle was a wild card and he's gotten a ton of time on a bad team to develop his game.
I honestly dont see an issue with laf's play this year overall, he's shown flashes of high end talent, he plays a heavy game thats going to excel in the playoffs and stutzle may never sniff the playoffs.
 
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eco's bones said:
Are you sad? I'm not. The Rangers as a team with both Lafreniere and Kakko contributing very much have become one of the league's better teams. They are very good players at a very young age. They don't get quite the same opportunities as some from the same draft class but they're on a team that's become a real contender.
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Yeah, I'm a little sad, yes.
 
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I May Be In The Minority . . . But I Believe That Kaapo Kakko Could Be Selected 1st Overall in 2019

I was at this draft in Vancouver, and nobody I talked to had them picking Kakko over Hughes. Every single fan or media member I talked to said they're certain the Devils will pick Hughes, I was so sure of this that I didn't even bother finding Kakko to get his autograph, got Hughes though.
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That person was in the infinitesimal minority. Hahaha. Every single team would have taken Hughes first.
 

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TheDirtyH said:
Congrats to the kid playing 82 games as well. Injuries have definitely been an issue in the past, happy to see him play every game and have a good year.
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He had one injury last year, and thats really been it? The previous incomplete seasons were from covid.
 
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Zuccarello had a slower progression until he hit 59 points but he was undrafted so I am optimistic about Kaapo Kakko.
Alexis Lafrenière had 39 points season with total of 81 games so 8 points more than last season which is promising as well.
 
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IDvsEGO said:
He had one injury last year, and thats really been it? The previous incomplete seasons were from covid.
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IDvsEGO said:
So we have, the flu,
missed what 2 games because of a LBI
A nothing because it was the last game of the season (5/8/21)
The upper body injury which was significant.

As I said he's really not missed much time. Aside from the singular big injury hes mostly been healthy.
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Just backing you up with the data ;)
 
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