Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko

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Sockosensei

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"My puck. Now get off me."

No rushing the play, just calm and confident.

He had great possession plays at times in the past. Now he's converting them into scoring chances for teammates.
 
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Levitate

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Considering how unlucky he has been at times during his career, it was nice to see that goal go in last night and him credited for it. They all count.

didn't he tip the initial shot? Then it was saved and bounced off the defender and into the net?
 

Levitate

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Yeah agreed either way he made that goal happen by being in the right place. I just was distracted when they were showing replays trying to figure out what happened and I had the sound off.
 

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I was beginning to lose hope in Kakko last season, but Messier changed my mind.

I don't remember his exact quote during the playoffs but he said something like, Kakko will soon be a beast that will be incredibly tough to handle when he gets his man-strength. He was right and we're watching it, now.
 

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I think Byfield is good. But Lafreniere is probably better. Byfield is developing though.
Byfield was always looked at as incredibly high ceiling but really low floor especially for a 2nd overall. Like in juniors the gap between laf and byfield was big.
 

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Boy is everyone asleep on Kakko.

In Atheltics 2019 redraft they have him 12th as a bubble top / middle line player, they have Dach, Krebs, Kaliyev and Caufield ahead of him.

To me his a better all around player than all of them and will likely be in the class of Boldy & Cozens. Definitely not #2 in redraft when considering the defenseman in that class, but better than #12 by a long shot.

We cover this every day here, but the rankings are purely based on flashy plays and scoring outputs. Kakko will catch up despite the lack of PP1 time, but its his overall play that isnt being measured in comparison to others on this list. Im fine with it actually. Let it be.

In 3-4 years he will be an absolute beast of a man. 6'4 215-220. Similar to Ratanen and maybe even bigger if you look at the monster truck frame that his Dad has. You already can see it. You cant take the puck from him.

Yes, he needs to shoot more, yes he needs to improve some areas of his game. Like all of these kids do, mainly their defense. But I'd rather have a Selke type player on a team thats winning than all flash and dash and numbers. Thats just me. There is a lot more value in that and those type of players learn how to build their games offensively and help bring home big prizes.

Regardless, its early but Kakko is already proving he is not a "bubble top" player. He is on the top line and killing it.

 
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Boy is everyone asleep on Kakko.

In Atheltics 2019 redraft they have him 12th as a bubble top / middle line player, they have Dach, Krebs, Kaliyev and Caufield ahead of him.

To me his a better all around player than all of them and will likely be in the class of Boldy & Cozens. Definitely not #2 in redraft when considering the defenseman in that class, but better than #12 by a long shot.

We cover this every day here, but the rankings are purely based on flashy plays and scoring outputs. Kakko will catch up despite the lack of PP1 time, but its his overall play that isnt being measured in comparison to others on this list. Im fine with it actually. Let it be.

In 3-4 years he will be an absolute beast of a man. 6'4 215-220. Similar to Ratanen and maybe even bigger if you look at the monster truck frame that his Dad has. You already can see it. You cant take the puck from him.

Yes, he needs to shoot more, yes he needs to improve some areas of his game. Like all of these kids do, mainly their defense. But I'd rather have a Selke type player on a team thats winning than all flash and dash and numbers. Thats just me. There is a lot more value in that and those type of players learn how to build their games offensively and help bring home big prizes.

Regardless, its early but Kakko is already proving he is not a "bubble top" player. He is on the top line and killing it.

Selke players also cost less against the cap in addition to being the types of guys you win cups with. Agreed, that's my hope for him too.
 

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Boy is everyone asleep on Kakko.

In Atheltics 2019 redraft they have him 12th as a bubble top / middle line player, they have Dach, Krebs, Kaliyev and Caufield ahead of him.

To me his a better all around player than all of them and will likely be in the class of Boldy & Cozens. Definitely not #2 in redraft when considering the defenseman in that class, but better than #12 by a long shot.

We cover this every day here, but the rankings are purely based on flashy plays and scoring outputs. Kakko will catch up despite the lack of PP1 time, but its his overall play that isnt being measured in comparison to others on this list. Im fine with it actually. Let it be.

In 3-4 years he will be an absolute beast of a man. 6'4 215-220. Similar to Ratanen and maybe even bigger if you look at the monster truck frame that his Dad has. You already can see it. You cant take the puck from him.

Yes, he needs to shoot more, yes he needs to improve some areas of his game. Like all of these kids do, mainly their defense. But I'd rather have a Selke type player on a team thats winning than all flash and dash and numbers. Thats just me. There is a lot more value in that and those type of players learn how to build their games offensively and help bring home big prizes.

Regardless, its early but Kakko is already proving he is not a "bubble top" player. He is on the top line and killing it.

IMO, Pronman has always preferred sizzle over steak. Not saying his opinions are worthless, but I take them with a grain of salt.
 

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“I think the way he can hold onto pucks, the way he makes plays,” Zibanejad told The Post when asked what makes Kakko fit with him and Kreider. “He’s so strong on the puck, too. We’re not gonna be just off the rush chances and pretty much one and done. Get that chemistry with them, with him and Kreids, usually down low. Again, the way he holds onto pucks — not just holds onto the puck for no reason, I think he opens everything up when he does that.”

Kakko’s level of confidence is something Zibanejad has taken notice of as well.

“I think it just keeps growing the more games he plays,” Zibanejad said. “The way he plays, the way he sees results from his game and just, I think there’s gotta be some type of standard self belief in what you do, what you think about yourself no matter what happens. And then the confidence goes up and down.”

 

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Boy is everyone asleep on Kakko.

In Atheltics 2019 redraft they have him 12th as a bubble top / middle line player, they have Dach, Krebs, Kaliyev and Caufield ahead of him.

To me his a better all around player than all of them and will likely be in the class of Boldy & Cozens. Definitely not #2 in redraft when considering the defenseman in that class, but better than #12 by a long shot.

We cover this every day here, but the rankings are purely based on flashy plays and scoring outputs. Kakko will catch up despite the lack of PP1 time, but its his overall play that isnt being measured in comparison to others on this list. Im fine with it actually. Let it be.

In 3-4 years he will be an absolute beast of a man. 6'4 215-220. Similar to Ratanen and maybe even bigger if you look at the monster truck frame that his Dad has. You already can see it. You cant take the puck from him.

Yes, he needs to shoot more, yes he needs to improve some areas of his game. Like all of these kids do, mainly their defense. But I'd rather have a Selke type player on a team thats winning than all flash and dash and numbers. Thats just me. There is a lot more value in that and those type of players learn how to build their games offensively and help bring home big prizes.

Regardless, its early but Kakko is already proving he is not a "bubble top" player. He is on the top line and killing it.

LOL. Bookmarking this one and pulling it out in 5 years.
 
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As much as I’d love that, that’s not really realistic. Kakkos point production needs to be about 10-15 points lower than hughes and then it becomes “did we f*** up”, because Kakko is an elite defensive player, and he thrives on the boards where hughes gets destroyed and in the playoffs, games are won and lost.

I would say he's very good defensively. He's not exactly Patrice Bergeron though. A lot of that is actually due to Quinn and his staff working on his two way game which improved drastically in his second year. The rest of your post is absolutely on point. I think he'll probably always lag behind Hughes in regard to production but he's a guy who is getting stronger and better and playing more confidently and I think that should help him and the Rangers immensely. That playoff experience did all of Kakko, Lafreniere and Chytil a world of good and I could see him excelling in the post season in the future which is when it really counts.

Neither he nor Lafreniere have to be the guy for the Rangers. They might not get the opportunities that Hughes gets but they play for a much stronger team that already has real aspirations of contention. Contributing to that is what they need to do. They might not get the huge contract that Hughes landed for some time still but winning is a lot more fun than losing.
 

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6 goals in the game, got 1 assist. One imaginary assist on the Trocheck goal I suppose. But he does look good.
 
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dangsLITE

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I really hope he has a couple multi point games and gets himself in the 0.6-0.7 PPG range because he's playing like a true top 6 forward. He needs to look to shoot more still though.

Gallant needs to find a way to get start getting him 16+ mins a game.... if he's not on PP1 fine, but get him on the PK again.
 
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