Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko: Part V

[Entrancemperium]

You can't bulk up without getting a little fat. The cutting comes after.

Well that depends if you're doing a clean bulk or dirty bulk.

 

[Chimpradamus]

Imagine jumping to conclusions based off of one poorly taken photo and ignoring all the more recent photos/videos that exist.

Jesus christ people.

It's the off-season, what do you expect? I have patience. I'm not writing him off, I'm expressing concern. See, you're doing the same thing: it's the off-season. I take a stand, I make a coin flip out of the future. I think Kakko will probably be underwhelming as a player. So what? I might be totally wrong (hopefully so), I still have a choice to give an opinion out of what I've seen. I don't dislike him as a person, I'm expressing concerns for his future career.

I wouldn't be as braindead as cheering on all the players, all of management and all of the franchise regardless of what happens, right?

I expect Kakko to end up as a career top 9 winger around $3-4m a year, albeit a good one. He doesn't have the commitment.

 

[Bluto]

Lafeniere was the consensus 1 OA and Kakko was the consensus 2 OA.
31 teams would have taken Lafreniere 1OA.
31 teams would have taken Kakko 2 OA.
If they bust, it'll be indicative of NYR development and the players failure to meet expectations.
Yet, i think its a little bit early to even have the bust conversation when neither of them are old enough to drink.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

It's the off-season, what do you expect? I have patience. I'm not writing him off, I'm expressing concern. See, you're doing the same thing: it's the off-season.

you’re expressing concern over a poorly taken photo lmao.


A small gust of wind that blows under someone’s shirt and holy shit, it’s the end of the world! This is assuming that the photo wasn’t altered to begin with. I wouldn’t put it past edjovo to do some shit like that just to start shit lmao.

but more recent shit exists. Take a look at those and tell me that he still looks fat and out of shape.

 

[RangerBlues]

Fat and out of shape????
Folks must be bored sucking down vodka while posting.

 

[Chimpradamus]

you’re expressing concern over a poorly taken photo lmao.


A small gust of wind that blows under someone’s shirt and holy shit, it’s the end of the world! This is assuming that the photo wasn’t altered to begin with. I wouldn’t put it last edjovo to do some shit like that just to start shit lmao.

but more recent shit exists. Take a look at those and tell me that he still looks fat and out of shape.

No. No no no. It has obviously been his play during the last two seasons as well. Not just some stock photo of an off-season, but it surely adds up to it. So far he hasn't been impressive whatsoever. Nothing to write home about. He has barely survived his first two NHL seasons and he is NO ONE the opposition would mention to look out for in a scouting report. Sure, he has improved his ATROCIOUS defensive play (one of the absolute worst in the entire league). Yay! Sure, it was in a really tough situation on a flawed team. I have to give him that.

Still... he has been a really shitty #2 pick. To then have those pictures, where there is celebration he at least doesn't look like a couch potato... holy hell are the expectations low. Sure, it could be his genes. But if he looks like Vesey for another season, I mean, how much hope can you have in a player?

As I said, now is the time for Kakko to prove he was picked in the 1st round and wasn't undrafted from the Kalsarikännit Sports Club. Let's put it this way: I have both Lafreniere and Kravtsov ahead of Kakko in who I think will grow the most. I probably have Kravtsov ahead of Lafreniere, but they are both very promising.

And maybe Kakko is a late bloomer? I wouldn't be sad if that was the case, on the contrary.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

No. No no no. It has obviously been his play during the last two seasons as well. Not just some stock photo of an off-season, but it surely adds up to it. So far he hasn't been impressive whatsoever. Nothing to write home about. He has barely survived his first two NHL seasons and he is NO ONE the opposition would mention to look out for in a scouting report. Sure, he has improved his ATROCIOUS defensive play (one of the absolute worst in the entire league). Yay! Sure, it was in a really tough situation on a dysfunctional team.

Still... he has been a really shitty #2 pick. I would rather have Hughes playing for the Devils than him, to put it that way. To then have those pictures, where there is celebration he at least doesn't look like a couch potato... holy hell are the expectations low. Sure, it could be his genes. But if he looks like Vesey for another season, I mean, how much hope can you have in a player?

As I said, now is the time for Kakko to prove he was picked in the 1st round and wasn't undrafted from the Kalsarikännit Sports Club.

What the f*** are you even talking about lol.

 

[Chimpradamus]

What the f*** are you even talking about lol.

The future of the player in this thread? Too many words? Ok. Kakko: concern. Might be good, I think there is concern. I might be wrong, I will be happy if wrong. Understand?

TL;DR Kakko's future uncertain. Chimp worry future. Chimp happy if worries false.

 

[will1066]

you’re expressing concern over a poorly taken photo lmao.


A small gust of wind that blows under someone’s shirt and holy shit, it’s the end of the world! This is assuming that the photo wasn’t altered to begin with. I wouldn’t put it past edjovo to do some shit like that just to start shit lmao.

but more recent shit exists. Take a look at those and tell me that he still looks fat and out of shape.

Sneaky Gen Z types...

 

[Levitate]

The future of the player in this thread? Too many words? Ok. Kakko: concern. Might be good, I think there is concern. I might be wrong, I will be happy if wrong. Understand?

TL;DR Kakko's future uncertain. Chimp worry future. Chimp happy if worries false.

He didn’t just improve from being bad defensively in his first year, he went from one of the worst to one of the best, and you question his commitment?

I think it’s fine to have questions about whether he’ll be able to apply his offensive skills and become the scorer we hope but so far I’ve seen zero reason or evidence to question his commitment. The direct info we do have is that he has been one of the top performers this summer in his training camp that includes legit NHL stars,

 

[CLW]

I honestly can't believe people thought EdJovanovski's photoshopped pics were real. /facepalm

 

[Chytilmania]

Not if you want to become truly strong. Then you need a layer of fat. If you want to become a poser, you get lean. Ask the strongmen on this planet about that. None of them look like models. As for what Kakko has done, I don't know if he has gone for the strongman regime or the Kessel regime.

As for hockey players, I would not advice them to gain body fat. The gained strength - if included with body fat in such a regime - is not worth the loss in speed, acceleration, stamina and agility. Especially not as a forward. If you're a player that really needs bear strength, sure, maybe. Otherwise? No.

If Kakko wants to become a true power forward, maybe. Otherwise, no. A guy like Reaves or Byfuglien should look a bit fat from his physical training when the season starts, because they really needs to be strong as a bear for their style. Kakko, no.

I have no clue how he thought this was the way to go. I'm concerned.

Who said anything about Strongmen?

 

[aufheben]

Oh, right, this is why I tried to avoid HF as much as possible over the summer. I almost forgot.

 

[RangerBlues]

 

[ThirdEye]

Kakko looks like Rantanen's awkward younger brother

 

[romba]

Dad bod coming along nicely

 

[will1066]

Oh, right, this is why I tried to avoid HF as much as possible over the summer. I almost forgot.

There's enough fodder here to get us to opening day of training camp. Thank you, @EdJovanovski. Thank you. Thank you.

 

[aufheben]

Faato Fatto amirite

 

[will1066]

Faato Fatto amirite

 

[NYR94]

This is my character in Assassins Creed Valhalla in modern gym clothes.

 

[Kords]

Lmao, this poor kid. From day one he's had to deal with a weirdo blogger's church, and "wow it's a nice [blank]" memes everytime something gets posted about him. Now apparently he's a fatty?

Sir Avgard hockey professor was right, we don't deserve Kakko.

 

[IronBloodedLion]

It’s clear he’s bulking up. Everyone relax.

 

[LokiDog]

Hall of famers Joe Corvo and Michael Grabner ^^

One of the highest scoring and most uniquely dominant Dmen of the past decade

Greatest goal scorer of all time.

He’s not a body builder he’s a hockey player.

 

[Overcast]

Jesus, we might as well start calling him Brodeur Jr. Look at that gigantic gut hanging down to his knees. And those jowls? Super concerned for his health and future. Hope Buch told him about the American wunder-diet Weight Watchers before he left.

Also unrelated to athletes, but here are two pictures of Demi Lovato:

All it takes is a weird angle and weird lighting and you turn an otherwise attractive woman in to Sloth from The Goonie's daughter in a snapshot.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

Excellent posts people. Thanks for the laughs.