Player Discussion Kaapo Kakko: Part V

[EdJovanovski]

That really WAS an outstanding interview...thanks for making it available. I heard a lot of intelligence and maturity in there and was quite impressed. Feel like I know him much better now.

I felt the opposite, thought he came across kind of rude & blunt. But that is common with translations.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I felt the opposite, thought he came across kind of rude & blunt. But that is common with translations.

You'd never say that about Kravtsov

 

[EdJovanovski]

You'd never say that about Kravtsov

I have actually

"Being that close to achieving my wildest dreams I wouldn’t pack up and go home when encountered with the slightest bit of adversity, especially considering if he played well in the AHL he very well could’ve been in the NHL by now. I don’t think his age is really an excuse, I think the majority of 19 year olds would stay if they were that close to achieving everything they’ve wanted in life. He was also pouting around like a baby in the AHL and looked miserable, and then complains about his time here (even about his teammates joking around and that he asked them not to joke around about him LOL) in Russian interviews. I sure hope he pans out, prior to the draft I posted I wanted them to take Kravtsov, Miller & Lundkvist lol"

Prospect Info: - 2018 NHL Draft / Pick #9 - Vitali Kravtsov (RW) - Part VI

 

[TheDirtyH]

They kind of give him every opportunity to bash Quin or his role, and he pretty much declines the invite and puts the onus on himself. Hard to see that as rude imo.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

In case anyone is interested in some light reading:

After careful analysis on this 35min video I can confirm that Kakko is not out of shape. Too bad, I kinda liked the version with a massive neck

 

[duhmetreE]

After careful analysis on this 35min video I can confirm that Kakko is not out of shape. Too bad, I kinda liked the version with a massive neck

if only he was wearing short shorts so we could evaluate his quads.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

Loved the jab at Quinn benching certain players without a thought

 

[Periwinkle]

I felt the opposite, thought he came across kind of rude & blunt. But that is common with translations.

I listened to the original, many of the translations are concised versions of his replies, omitting the "chattiness" of a podcast. He wasn't rude at all.

One translation was off a bit - he was actually asked whether he reads what people say about him e.g.on a Finnish hockey message board, not just the media, he said no, not really at all. So he probably doesn't know some people consider him to be rude&fat

 

[will1066]

Loved the jab at Quinn benching certain players without a thought

He seems to like to hold onto grudges.

 

[aufheben]

He seems to like to hold onto grudges.

He’ll fit right in.

 

[aufheben]

In case anyone is interested in some light reading:

GoogleDocs bruh

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

GoogleDocs bruh

102 tweets in 4 minutes is definitely a bit crazy but now at least people can share individual quotes haha

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I learned about a new bot feature... Much easier to read using the link below:

Thread by @StatBoy_Steven on Thread Reader App

Thanks so much for this Steven - As you know am a really big Kakko fan and it's great to hear him articulate his answers fully and with no language barrier.

He'll get there one day for sure but I havent really "heard" Kakko speak at this depth, until you posted this.

Thanks again

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Interesting he mentioned that the "table is cleaned". Sounds to me like he was expecting more time from QQ.

Also the comment:

KK: But on the other hand, it doesn’t matter who you are if you’re not playing well. They will mention it to you. But then others don’t see the ice anymore and others get away with a small reminder. They expect with that that you to then fix your short-comings or errors.

He will see a difference here with Gallant

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Thanks so much for this Steven - As you know am a really big Kakko fan and it's great to hear him articulate his answers fully and with no language barrier.

He'll get there one day for sure but I havent really "heard" Kakko speak at this depth, until you posted this.

Thanks again

Kudos go to my Finnish friend who spent a few hours transcribing the 30 minute interview. I'm simply the person sharing it.

 

[huerter]

Were there any dynamic wingers available in that draft? I get cised for dynamic wingers.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Loved the jab at Quinn benching certain players without a thought

I assume I'm misreading the first quote.

This is the highest pro level and they don't have a 2nd overall pick under specific training guidelines? Just leave him and everyone else to do whatever? I really hope that's translation issue

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Good analysis by Shayna from the Athletic on Kakko today. Pretty spot on to be honest.

I think Kakko is a player that actually is measured pretty fairly using advanced analytics - his first couple of years at least.

Kakko’s play still didn’t pop off the scoresheet in 2020-21, with just nine goals and 17 points in 48 games. He only added 0.2 points per 60 minutes to his scoring rate in all situations, so on the surface, it didn’t appear to be the year of improvement that it actually was.

A key difference between seasons that influenced his scoring was a drop in power-play usage. He still averaged fourth-line minutes at even strength, but he went from playing over two minutes per game on average (or 42 percent of the available ice time) to less than a minute and a half per game (24 percent).

The dip in power-play time meant that while the improvement in his all-situation scoring rate was marginal, there was an uptick in his five-on-five scoring — from 0.7 points per 60 to 1.28 points.

Unlike his rookie season, Kakko was a positive influence on both ends of the ice. He went from a 37 percent expected-goal rate over 66 games to 56 percent over 48.

A top-six role under Gallant may be much different than under David Quinn. There’s a much different risk-versus-reward threshold in the coaches’ strategies; that’s clear in their on-ice tactics. Gallant’s teams rely on speed through the neutral zone and quick passes to get the puck up ice instead of looking for the safe plays. That may have hamstrung some of the Rangers forwards in recent years, especially the younger forwards who saw minimal ice time. Having more latitude to make plays could help further boost Kakko’s confidence.

Kakko may not have met expectations to start his NHL career, but he’s progressed and looks like he could be a two-way force sooner than anticipated. With improved finishing ability, more ice time and the influence of a coach known for optimizing the performances of his players, the breakout could be coming.

Is Kaapo Kakko poised for a breakout year under new Rangers coach Gerard Gallant? A deep dive

Carp still on sabbatical, apparently.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I assume I'm misreading the first quote.

This is the highest pro level and they don't have a 2nd overall pick under specific training guidelines? Just leave him and everyone else to do whatever? I really hope that's translation issue

It's not a translation error.

 

[LOFIN]

This is the highest pro level and they don't have a 2nd overall pick under specific training guidelines? Just leave him and everyone else to do whatever? I really hope that's translation issue

Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about that. I get that you can't babysit adults, but would at least imagine that you could have individual guidance when it comes to training and what areas you need to work on. Especially when we are talking about the Rangers here. There is a hard cap, and where the big clubs could take advantage is in the FO and staff. Get more/better scouts, get more coaches, get more analytics, whatever.

And it's not a specific issue about Kakko, it's a larger issue. There is no excuse how Tampa can hit home run after home run in the latter stages of the draft, but bigger teams can't. Spend the resources where you can.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

After careful analysis on this 35min video I can confirm that Kakko is not out of shape. Too bad, I kinda liked the version with a massive neck

nvm Thicco Kakko is back!

Good luck to everyone who'll have to try to steal the puck from a guy who uses the zamboni entrence to get to the rink

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

It's not a translation error.

Yeah I'm not sure how I feel about that. I get that you can't babysit adults, but would at least imagine that you could have individual guidance when it comes to training and what areas you need to work on. Especially when we are talking about the Rangers here. There is a hard cap, and where the big clubs could take advantage is in the FO and staff. Get more/better scouts, get more coaches, get more analytics, whatever.

And it's not a specific issue about Kakko, it's a larger issue. There is no excuse how Tampa can hit home run after home run in the latter stages of the draft, but bigger teams can't. Spend the resources where you can.

Its no secret I've strongly suspected our organization was incompetent off the ice but that's another level if true. Maybe there's some small guidance and they check in but let guys choose from a bevy of off season options while keeping tabs?

I just...I'm really struggling to believe an organization in a rebuild didn't have off season regimens and plans for these kids. Even though that'd reinforce my own narrative that Gorton was horribly overrated, damn near dog shit tier as a GM, I want to believe there's more to it

Certainly helps explain why we're seeing so many issues with prospects and players.

 

[Kravtsov420]

He looks like Dracula here. Comin for blood!

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Bleached Zangief from Street Fighter

 

[NYRFANMANI]