Canucks would never trade for an us signed Marner. Leafs would never trade a signed Marner for EP. No chance this deal happens.
Rumor: Just Kidding! Pettersson and JT Miller Trade Reunion!
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Brookbank
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Who would you get in free agency with that cap space ? Say this year or next
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i really would not. if canucks wanted marner they can go after him this summer. they have zero reason to chase him now.
I can't see Teams giving up premium assets for players with question marks, and so
much term and money. Even if JT helps with this years playoffs He still has five more
years and a no movement clause. And Pettersson isn't close to being worth his money.
I find it odd that this all came up when JT took his leave. Media have jumped on it.
Sure, both may not be traded. Who cares if they don't like each other. Why would
the Canucks dump these guys if it weakens their team.
VanillaCoke
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Ppl that repeat this type of drivel know that real life GMS dont have the memory of a hamster right?
He's worth whatever he's worth because the sample size is not sixty games....
What is the best offer so far for Miller and are the Canucks fine with getting picks/prospects for him or do they want players coming back?
On this note, I’m guessing Miller offers are crap.
I really think a good fair deal is around Couts, Risto and Miller IF Van wants to go for it.
The ironic most valuable piece on this deal is (shockingly) Ristolainen, who at present is the Flyers #3 (and playing like it.) Every dman partnered with him has great advanced stats (himself included) and Flyers may actually be reluctant to move him.
Couts isn’t the 75 point player he was, but is still a selke caliber defensive forward and on pace for 40-50 points. On a team with an actual 1C he would thrive IMO.
Miller is obviously the better offensive player but has attitude concerns that make him risky. Both contracts are similar. But not a stretch that he has more value than Couts so a 1:1 deal isn’t fair. All players are similar in age.
Risto provides Vancouver their second pair anchor, big RHD and is signed for a few years.
Vancouver can send some salary back.
toddkaz
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His salary still lowers his value. He is due 10m on July 1st.
Sure you can keep him and pay the 10m and be happy but ignoring that his salary doesn't lower his value is being obtuse. Not saying it lowers it a lot but it does make him less appealing especially to cash strapped teams or teams who don't have cap space. That does make the market smaller for him and only certain teams might be willing to pay the 10m.
Risto is interesting to the Canucks but the Couturier contact is terrible. He’s an almost 8m a year player for 5 more years and he’s looking pretty cooked at this point
Actually says more about their actual two way ability than anything else.
Man, I am a part of Leaf nation but the hate one of the best players of the last 30 years on the Leafs gets is absolutely ridiculous. He is the type of player that can and will win you games single handedly. Literally can take over games. Marner is NOT the problem! Depth has always been the problem. You have a 3rd line that can chip in here and there, then your top line doesn’t get the lions share of the worst match ups. It’s pretty simple. Strengthen the bottom six and the top six become that much better.
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Oh cry me a river with this bottom 6 nonsense. The overpaid 4 lose all arguments about not having a bottom 6 for support when they unprecedently got $40m between them
unicornpig
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I dont understand this narrative that Marner’s next contract will automatically be a bad contract. There’s no such thing as a bad contract that hasn’t been signed yet. What is forcing teams to offer Marner a bad contract? The most you will have to pay him is what his market value is. You only have to pay him as much as other teams would be willing to pay him, if it’s a bad contract then why are other teams willing to pay it?
lol now you’re talking about a 19 yo rookie that was abused by a coach with quite a checkered past. Well played smh
unicornpig
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Except this year they have the space to improve the bottom six and a few assets that could get them the top players available. They also have a goaltending duo that can be trusted not to necessarily steal games, which they can do on occasion, but to at least not lose them games.
The team this year is a vastly different animal than in years past. If Tre can bulk up that third line and add a dependable #5 dman, this is a team that no one will want to face and can beat anyone in a 7 game series.
Now, getting back to the point of the thread because people like to derail it in the Leaf bitch fest, there is not one single GM in the NHL that would make a trade of Marner at 13 mil(give or take on new contract) for Pettersson at 11.6. Not one single GM. And anyone thinking otherwise is out to lunch.
How many picks/prospects is Philly adding to this deal? or are they retaining 50% and paying another team to retain another 50% for 75% retention on both?
Just here to see how Petey is now worthless but Marner is somehow now borderline untouchable
I love how bi-polar this place is
I love how bi-polar this place is
Give me a break, no one is saying he is worthless. This is a thread about value of one vs the other, he just isn’t worth a Marner in any way shape or form. Period.
Still a very good player, but one is worth way more than the other.
Google it, pretty simple.
And we are talking about Mike Babcock! It isn’t just what he did as coach of the Leafs. He did it in Detroit and there are a million stories out there about players hating him for his abuse. He was hired as coach of The Jackets and fired within days for more stupid crap he pulled.
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